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jstoeszParticipant
Yeah, the state is a magnet for the irresponsible. I never made the distinction between native and non-native. I was not trying to single out who is irresponsible and who is not, only that it is more pervasive here and the clear and dominant impetus behind the prices.
jstoeszParticipantBack to it…
I appreciated all of your comments and in many ways you all are very right. DWCAP you pretty much nailed it with everything you said. Bearishgurl, your suggestion that I have imprinted expectations is spot on. I do, but is that wrong or a sign of SD being overpriced? I also understand you alls offense to my rantings of the irresponsibility of Californians. I have been harsh and maybe unduly.
To that sentiment, let me clarify. I am upset with the aggregate. I am sure many of you are very responsible. I have many responsible character filled friends here. My wife grew up in Irvine. There are wonderful people in S. California, but there seems to be more dumb ones than elsewhere.
As I said before…I am upset with the fact that things not not what they should be. I do not think they should be equal to MN prices. But a rent vs buy calculation should not be so lopsided for a starter. These are “shoulds,” or signs of a strong safe market. Do I think they will actually happen? Its very very very unlikely. So I am not trying predicting the future. I am only giving rationale for why I have wanted to leave.
I compare SD to Minneapolis, because they are the two cities I am most familiar with. Are they going to agree, no, and that is fine. There is just so many signs of the an-affordability of SD, and I wanted to rant and rave about it. Thank you all for participating.
sdr your comment about ‘it is what it is’ is completely true. I can not change the market through my frustration. I can only leave, and hopefully move my wife’s family out too π
But we will be back (if my wife has anything to do with it), and I hope it is different when we do.
jstoeszParticipantBack to it…
I appreciated all of your comments and in many ways you all are very right. DWCAP you pretty much nailed it with everything you said. Bearishgurl, your suggestion that I have imprinted expectations is spot on. I do, but is that wrong or a sign of SD being overpriced? I also understand you alls offense to my rantings of the irresponsibility of Californians. I have been harsh and maybe unduly.
To that sentiment, let me clarify. I am upset with the aggregate. I am sure many of you are very responsible. I have many responsible character filled friends here. My wife grew up in Irvine. There are wonderful people in S. California, but there seems to be more dumb ones than elsewhere.
As I said before…I am upset with the fact that things not not what they should be. I do not think they should be equal to MN prices. But a rent vs buy calculation should not be so lopsided for a starter. These are “shoulds,” or signs of a strong safe market. Do I think they will actually happen? Its very very very unlikely. So I am not trying predicting the future. I am only giving rationale for why I have wanted to leave.
I compare SD to Minneapolis, because they are the two cities I am most familiar with. Are they going to agree, no, and that is fine. There is just so many signs of the an-affordability of SD, and I wanted to rant and rave about it. Thank you all for participating.
sdr your comment about ‘it is what it is’ is completely true. I can not change the market through my frustration. I can only leave, and hopefully move my wife’s family out too π
But we will be back (if my wife has anything to do with it), and I hope it is different when we do.
jstoeszParticipantBack to it…
I appreciated all of your comments and in many ways you all are very right. DWCAP you pretty much nailed it with everything you said. Bearishgurl, your suggestion that I have imprinted expectations is spot on. I do, but is that wrong or a sign of SD being overpriced? I also understand you alls offense to my rantings of the irresponsibility of Californians. I have been harsh and maybe unduly.
To that sentiment, let me clarify. I am upset with the aggregate. I am sure many of you are very responsible. I have many responsible character filled friends here. My wife grew up in Irvine. There are wonderful people in S. California, but there seems to be more dumb ones than elsewhere.
As I said before…I am upset with the fact that things not not what they should be. I do not think they should be equal to MN prices. But a rent vs buy calculation should not be so lopsided for a starter. These are “shoulds,” or signs of a strong safe market. Do I think they will actually happen? Its very very very unlikely. So I am not trying predicting the future. I am only giving rationale for why I have wanted to leave.
I compare SD to Minneapolis, because they are the two cities I am most familiar with. Are they going to agree, no, and that is fine. There is just so many signs of the an-affordability of SD, and I wanted to rant and rave about it. Thank you all for participating.
sdr your comment about ‘it is what it is’ is completely true. I can not change the market through my frustration. I can only leave, and hopefully move my wife’s family out too π
But we will be back (if my wife has anything to do with it), and I hope it is different when we do.
jstoeszParticipantBack to it…
I appreciated all of your comments and in many ways you all are very right. DWCAP you pretty much nailed it with everything you said. Bearishgurl, your suggestion that I have imprinted expectations is spot on. I do, but is that wrong or a sign of SD being overpriced? I also understand you alls offense to my rantings of the irresponsibility of Californians. I have been harsh and maybe unduly.
To that sentiment, let me clarify. I am upset with the aggregate. I am sure many of you are very responsible. I have many responsible character filled friends here. My wife grew up in Irvine. There are wonderful people in S. California, but there seems to be more dumb ones than elsewhere.
As I said before…I am upset with the fact that things not not what they should be. I do not think they should be equal to MN prices. But a rent vs buy calculation should not be so lopsided for a starter. These are “shoulds,” or signs of a strong safe market. Do I think they will actually happen? Its very very very unlikely. So I am not trying predicting the future. I am only giving rationale for why I have wanted to leave.
I compare SD to Minneapolis, because they are the two cities I am most familiar with. Are they going to agree, no, and that is fine. There is just so many signs of the an-affordability of SD, and I wanted to rant and rave about it. Thank you all for participating.
sdr your comment about ‘it is what it is’ is completely true. I can not change the market through my frustration. I can only leave, and hopefully move my wife’s family out too π
But we will be back (if my wife has anything to do with it), and I hope it is different when we do.
jstoeszParticipantBack to it…
I appreciated all of your comments and in many ways you all are very right. DWCAP you pretty much nailed it with everything you said. Bearishgurl, your suggestion that I have imprinted expectations is spot on. I do, but is that wrong or a sign of SD being overpriced? I also understand you alls offense to my rantings of the irresponsibility of Californians. I have been harsh and maybe unduly.
To that sentiment, let me clarify. I am upset with the aggregate. I am sure many of you are very responsible. I have many responsible character filled friends here. My wife grew up in Irvine. There are wonderful people in S. California, but there seems to be more dumb ones than elsewhere.
As I said before…I am upset with the fact that things not not what they should be. I do not think they should be equal to MN prices. But a rent vs buy calculation should not be so lopsided for a starter. These are “shoulds,” or signs of a strong safe market. Do I think they will actually happen? Its very very very unlikely. So I am not trying predicting the future. I am only giving rationale for why I have wanted to leave.
I compare SD to Minneapolis, because they are the two cities I am most familiar with. Are they going to agree, no, and that is fine. There is just so many signs of the an-affordability of SD, and I wanted to rant and rave about it. Thank you all for participating.
sdr your comment about ‘it is what it is’ is completely true. I can not change the market through my frustration. I can only leave, and hopefully move my wife’s family out too π
But we will be back (if my wife has anything to do with it), and I hope it is different when we do.
jstoeszParticipant*back to carpet bombing*
I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.
But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.
I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.
jstoeszParticipant*back to carpet bombing*
I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.
But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.
I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.
jstoeszParticipant*back to carpet bombing*
I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.
But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.
I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.
jstoeszParticipant*back to carpet bombing*
I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.
But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.
I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.
jstoeszParticipant*back to carpet bombing*
I love this city. It in most ways it is far superior to Minneapolis. I have visions of raising my kids competitively sailing in SD bay. Visions of teaching them to surf at pipes. I lived for two years on a boat off shelter Island which is one of the greatest experiences of my life. It is amazing! I would be hard pressed to find a more amazing city in the country. I love it here.
But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. Maybe I will strike it rich in my next company or the one after that.
I badly want to settle here. In many ways more than Minneapolis, but it is filled with fiscal retardation not found in most other places.
jstoeszParticipantbearishgurl,
I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.
jstoeszParticipantbearishgurl,
I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.
jstoeszParticipantbearishgurl,
I do not hold water for MN residents. To be honest I am always disappointed in their voting history! There is nothing like Jesse the body Ventura and Mark Dayton (a mentally unstable alcoholic) to make you disdain the people of MN. But in comparison, their losses in the housing market are minuscule to CA. MN’s are not without their faults, and I am quite sure you can find more responsible people elsewhere. But the home price in respect to household income is enviable by CA standards without a doubt. Their problems are significant, but in comparison to s. California they are saints.
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