[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor]John, thats really not how it works.

My son’s original bc is somewhere in an archive.
The hospital has records but will not release them to anyone with or without my permission (barring power of atty) per federal law.
The thing I buy at the courthouse is a COLB or equivalent.

My original bc is somewhere in a state department archive. I have never seen it. (I was born on a US base in Germany)

The copies I get for getting a passport is a COLB.

Most people consider these equivalent.

Its a bit like the difference between a certified check and an official check. Most bankers make no distinction.

Similarly, most people reviewing these certs make no distinction.

I got a duplicate a few years ago. It has the date of printing and certification on it. The seal does not have my birthday (or birth year) on it.

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COLB and BC are essentially the same for mundane things like passports, social security numbers but not for determining eligibility for POTUS.

Again, there is no record of him being born in a hospital in Hawaii.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor]John, thats really not how it works.

My son’s original bc is somewhere in an archive.
The hospital has records but will not release them to anyone with or without my permission (barring power of atty) per federal law.
The thing I buy at the courthouse is a COLB or equivalent.

My original bc is somewhere in a state department archive. I have never seen it. (I was born on a US base in Germany)

The copies I get for getting a passport is a COLB.

Most people consider these equivalent.

Its a bit like the difference between a certified check and an official check. Most bankers make no distinction.

Similarly, most people reviewing these certs make no distinction.

I got a duplicate a few years ago. It has the date of printing and certification on it. The seal does not have my birthday (or birth year) on it.

[/quote]

COLB and BC are essentially the same for mundane things like passports, social security numbers but not for determining eligibility for POTUS.

Again, there is no record of him being born in a hospital in Hawaii.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor]John, thats really not how it works.

My son’s original bc is somewhere in an archive.
The hospital has records but will not release them to anyone with or without my permission (barring power of atty) per federal law.
The thing I buy at the courthouse is a COLB or equivalent.

My original bc is somewhere in a state department archive. I have never seen it. (I was born on a US base in Germany)

The copies I get for getting a passport is a COLB.

Most people consider these equivalent.

Its a bit like the difference between a certified check and an official check. Most bankers make no distinction.

Similarly, most people reviewing these certs make no distinction.

I got a duplicate a few years ago. It has the date of printing and certification on it. The seal does not have my birthday (or birth year) on it.

[/quote]

COLB and BC are essentially the same for mundane things like passports, social security numbers but not for determining eligibility for POTUS.

Again, there is no record of him being born in a hospital in Hawaii.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor]John, thats really not how it works.

My son’s original bc is somewhere in an archive.
The hospital has records but will not release them to anyone with or without my permission (barring power of atty) per federal law.
The thing I buy at the courthouse is a COLB or equivalent.

My original bc is somewhere in a state department archive. I have never seen it. (I was born on a US base in Germany)

The copies I get for getting a passport is a COLB.

Most people consider these equivalent.

Its a bit like the difference between a certified check and an official check. Most bankers make no distinction.

Similarly, most people reviewing these certs make no distinction.

I got a duplicate a few years ago. It has the date of printing and certification on it. The seal does not have my birthday (or birth year) on it.

[/quote]

COLB and BC are essentially the same for mundane things like passports, social security numbers but not for determining eligibility for POTUS.

Again, there is no record of him being born in a hospital in Hawaii.

John

[jficquette]

[quote=urbanrealtor]John, thats really not how it works.

My son’s original bc is somewhere in an archive.
The hospital has records but will not release them to anyone with or without my permission (barring power of atty) per federal law.
The thing I buy at the courthouse is a COLB or equivalent.

My original bc is somewhere in a state department archive. I have never seen it. (I was born on a US base in Germany)

The copies I get for getting a passport is a COLB.

Most people consider these equivalent.

Its a bit like the difference between a certified check and an official check. Most bankers make no distinction.

Similarly, most people reviewing these certs make no distinction.

I got a duplicate a few years ago. It has the date of printing and certification on it. The seal does not have my birthday (or birth year) on it.

[/quote]

COLB and BC are essentially the same for mundane things like passports, social security numbers but not for determining eligibility for POTUS.

Again, there is no record of him being born in a hospital in Hawaii.

John

[jficquette]

Partypup,

Have you been to these sites???

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ten-reasons-democrats-should-support-john-mccain/
http://www.puma08.com/

Somewhere in the pages are comments by Hillary supporters who claim that McCain will win huge in the caucus states because of the “dirty campaign tricks” that Obama used.

Also all should remember how they screwed Hillary by not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention and there are comments in their somewhere about how the PUMA’s in Florida are going to get revenge by voting for McCain.

Also it is discussed in those sites about how the pollsters were in the tank for Obama and skewed the numbers on purpose to hurt Hillary. For instance, the polls had Obama up by 11% in Penn the day before the election and Hillary won by 200k votes. Those Hillary voters are going to vote for McCain.

Partypup, you are so right about things.

John

[jficquette]

Partypup,

Have you been to these sites???

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ten-reasons-democrats-should-support-john-mccain/
http://www.puma08.com/

Somewhere in the pages are comments by Hillary supporters who claim that McCain will win huge in the caucus states because of the “dirty campaign tricks” that Obama used.

Also all should remember how they screwed Hillary by not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention and there are comments in their somewhere about how the PUMA’s in Florida are going to get revenge by voting for McCain.

Also it is discussed in those sites about how the pollsters were in the tank for Obama and skewed the numbers on purpose to hurt Hillary. For instance, the polls had Obama up by 11% in Penn the day before the election and Hillary won by 200k votes. Those Hillary voters are going to vote for McCain.

Partypup, you are so right about things.

John

[jficquette]

Partypup,

Have you been to these sites???

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ten-reasons-democrats-should-support-john-mccain/
http://www.puma08.com/

Somewhere in the pages are comments by Hillary supporters who claim that McCain will win huge in the caucus states because of the “dirty campaign tricks” that Obama used.

Also all should remember how they screwed Hillary by not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention and there are comments in their somewhere about how the PUMA’s in Florida are going to get revenge by voting for McCain.

Also it is discussed in those sites about how the pollsters were in the tank for Obama and skewed the numbers on purpose to hurt Hillary. For instance, the polls had Obama up by 11% in Penn the day before the election and Hillary won by 200k votes. Those Hillary voters are going to vote for McCain.

Partypup, you are so right about things.

John

[jficquette]

Partypup,

Have you been to these sites???

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ten-reasons-democrats-should-support-john-mccain/
http://www.puma08.com/

Somewhere in the pages are comments by Hillary supporters who claim that McCain will win huge in the caucus states because of the “dirty campaign tricks” that Obama used.

Also all should remember how they screwed Hillary by not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention and there are comments in their somewhere about how the PUMA’s in Florida are going to get revenge by voting for McCain.

Also it is discussed in those sites about how the pollsters were in the tank for Obama and skewed the numbers on purpose to hurt Hillary. For instance, the polls had Obama up by 11% in Penn the day before the election and Hillary won by 200k votes. Those Hillary voters are going to vote for McCain.

Partypup, you are so right about things.

John

[jficquette]

Partypup,

Have you been to these sites???

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ten-reasons-democrats-should-support-john-mccain/
http://www.puma08.com/

Somewhere in the pages are comments by Hillary supporters who claim that McCain will win huge in the caucus states because of the “dirty campaign tricks” that Obama used.

Also all should remember how they screwed Hillary by not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention and there are comments in their somewhere about how the PUMA’s in Florida are going to get revenge by voting for McCain.

Also it is discussed in those sites about how the pollsters were in the tank for Obama and skewed the numbers on purpose to hurt Hillary. For instance, the polls had Obama up by 11% in Penn the day before the election and Hillary won by 200k votes. Those Hillary voters are going to vote for McCain.

Partypup, you are so right about things.

John

[jficquette]

Kilohana,

From what I understand about there is a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Birth certifcate”

Say you are born in a shack somewhere in Hawaii without an attending physican to sign a “Birth Certificate”. In this case you would go to the state and register the birth and receive a COLB. In other words, the state takes your word for it that the birth was in the state. If you were born in a hospital they would issue the “Birth Certificate” signed by the attending physican.

What Hawaii is calling is a birth certificate is actually a COLB. Its not proof he was born there. Its proof that his birth was registered there and the state takes the person registering the birth at their word.

His mother supposely gave birth in Kenya and then immediately flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Please realize that there is no record of the hospital he was born in to go along with an actual birth there.

Why doesn’t he just release it?? Can you think of a reason???

Also who cares if he is Muslim or Hindu or Buddist or whatever?

Partypup,

I hope your right about McCain winning. I was afraid it was over until it just hit me that Americans are not stupid enough to elect a Racist Maxist over a true American War Hero.

Partypup, this video is an hour long and is by Jesse Peterson who incidently grew up in Montgomery Alabama about the same time I did. It is a lecture he gave at Texas AM University. I think that you would enjoy it.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/821509

John

[jficquette]

Kilohana,

From what I understand about there is a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Birth certifcate”

Say you are born in a shack somewhere in Hawaii without an attending physican to sign a “Birth Certificate”. In this case you would go to the state and register the birth and receive a COLB. In other words, the state takes your word for it that the birth was in the state. If you were born in a hospital they would issue the “Birth Certificate” signed by the attending physican.

What Hawaii is calling is a birth certificate is actually a COLB. Its not proof he was born there. Its proof that his birth was registered there and the state takes the person registering the birth at their word.

His mother supposely gave birth in Kenya and then immediately flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Please realize that there is no record of the hospital he was born in to go along with an actual birth there.

Why doesn’t he just release it?? Can you think of a reason???

Also who cares if he is Muslim or Hindu or Buddist or whatever?

Partypup,

I hope your right about McCain winning. I was afraid it was over until it just hit me that Americans are not stupid enough to elect a Racist Maxist over a true American War Hero.

Partypup, this video is an hour long and is by Jesse Peterson who incidently grew up in Montgomery Alabama about the same time I did. It is a lecture he gave at Texas AM University. I think that you would enjoy it.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/821509

John

[jficquette]

Kilohana,

From what I understand about there is a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Birth certifcate”

Say you are born in a shack somewhere in Hawaii without an attending physican to sign a “Birth Certificate”. In this case you would go to the state and register the birth and receive a COLB. In other words, the state takes your word for it that the birth was in the state. If you were born in a hospital they would issue the “Birth Certificate” signed by the attending physican.

What Hawaii is calling is a birth certificate is actually a COLB. Its not proof he was born there. Its proof that his birth was registered there and the state takes the person registering the birth at their word.

His mother supposely gave birth in Kenya and then immediately flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Please realize that there is no record of the hospital he was born in to go along with an actual birth there.

Why doesn’t he just release it?? Can you think of a reason???

Also who cares if he is Muslim or Hindu or Buddist or whatever?

Partypup,

I hope your right about McCain winning. I was afraid it was over until it just hit me that Americans are not stupid enough to elect a Racist Maxist over a true American War Hero.

Partypup, this video is an hour long and is by Jesse Peterson who incidently grew up in Montgomery Alabama about the same time I did. It is a lecture he gave at Texas AM University. I think that you would enjoy it.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/821509

John

[jficquette]

Kilohana,

From what I understand about there is a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Birth certifcate”

Say you are born in a shack somewhere in Hawaii without an attending physican to sign a “Birth Certificate”. In this case you would go to the state and register the birth and receive a COLB. In other words, the state takes your word for it that the birth was in the state. If you were born in a hospital they would issue the “Birth Certificate” signed by the attending physican.

What Hawaii is calling is a birth certificate is actually a COLB. Its not proof he was born there. Its proof that his birth was registered there and the state takes the person registering the birth at their word.

His mother supposely gave birth in Kenya and then immediately flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Please realize that there is no record of the hospital he was born in to go along with an actual birth there.

Why doesn’t he just release it?? Can you think of a reason???

Also who cares if he is Muslim or Hindu or Buddist or whatever?

Partypup,

I hope your right about McCain winning. I was afraid it was over until it just hit me that Americans are not stupid enough to elect a Racist Maxist over a true American War Hero.

Partypup, this video is an hour long and is by Jesse Peterson who incidently grew up in Montgomery Alabama about the same time I did. It is a lecture he gave at Texas AM University. I think that you would enjoy it.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/821509

John

[jficquette]

Kilohana,

From what I understand about there is a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Birth certifcate”

Say you are born in a shack somewhere in Hawaii without an attending physican to sign a “Birth Certificate”. In this case you would go to the state and register the birth and receive a COLB. In other words, the state takes your word for it that the birth was in the state. If you were born in a hospital they would issue the “Birth Certificate” signed by the attending physican.

What Hawaii is calling is a birth certificate is actually a COLB. Its not proof he was born there. Its proof that his birth was registered there and the state takes the person registering the birth at their word.

His mother supposely gave birth in Kenya and then immediately flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Please realize that there is no record of the hospital he was born in to go along with an actual birth there.

Why doesn’t he just release it?? Can you think of a reason???

Also who cares if he is Muslim or Hindu or Buddist or whatever?

Partypup,

I hope your right about McCain winning. I was afraid it was over until it just hit me that Americans are not stupid enough to elect a Racist Maxist over a true American War Hero.

Partypup, this video is an hour long and is by Jesse Peterson who incidently grew up in Montgomery Alabama about the same time I did. It is a lecture he gave at Texas AM University. I think that you would enjoy it.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/821509

John

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