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She will name her price. If he balks she can write a book exposing his behind the scenes global warming games.

[Hobie]

She will name her price. If he balks she can write a book exposing his behind the scenes global warming games.

[Hobie]

[quote=dejams]I end up with pavers because they more stronger and do no crack like stamped concrete. [/quote]

Just a word regarding concrete. Stamped or troweled will not crack if prepared properly.

1. Compact the foundation with a ‘wacker’ ( power compactor)
2. 4-6″ gravel base
3. Use 3/4″ rock in your concrete and 3/8″ rebar. Not the 3/8″ “grout pump mix” and wire mesh.
4. Expansion joints or saw cuts.

Pavers are great but have a different more industrial ‘look’ than concrete.

[Hobie]

[quote=dejams]I end up with pavers because they more stronger and do no crack like stamped concrete. [/quote]

Just a word regarding concrete. Stamped or troweled will not crack if prepared properly.

1. Compact the foundation with a ‘wacker’ ( power compactor)
2. 4-6″ gravel base
3. Use 3/4″ rock in your concrete and 3/8″ rebar. Not the 3/8″ “grout pump mix” and wire mesh.
4. Expansion joints or saw cuts.

Pavers are great but have a different more industrial ‘look’ than concrete.

[Hobie]

[quote=dejams]I end up with pavers because they more stronger and do no crack like stamped concrete. [/quote]

Just a word regarding concrete. Stamped or troweled will not crack if prepared properly.

1. Compact the foundation with a ‘wacker’ ( power compactor)
2. 4-6″ gravel base
3. Use 3/4″ rock in your concrete and 3/8″ rebar. Not the 3/8″ “grout pump mix” and wire mesh.
4. Expansion joints or saw cuts.

Pavers are great but have a different more industrial ‘look’ than concrete.

[Hobie]

[quote=dejams]I end up with pavers because they more stronger and do no crack like stamped concrete. [/quote]

Just a word regarding concrete. Stamped or troweled will not crack if prepared properly.

1. Compact the foundation with a ‘wacker’ ( power compactor)
2. 4-6″ gravel base
3. Use 3/4″ rock in your concrete and 3/8″ rebar. Not the 3/8″ “grout pump mix” and wire mesh.
4. Expansion joints or saw cuts.

Pavers are great but have a different more industrial ‘look’ than concrete.

[Hobie]

[quote=dejams]I end up with pavers because they more stronger and do no crack like stamped concrete. [/quote]

Just a word regarding concrete. Stamped or troweled will not crack if prepared properly.

1. Compact the foundation with a ‘wacker’ ( power compactor)
2. 4-6″ gravel base
3. Use 3/4″ rock in your concrete and 3/8″ rebar. Not the 3/8″ “grout pump mix” and wire mesh.
4. Expansion joints or saw cuts.

Pavers are great but have a different more industrial ‘look’ than concrete.

[Hobie]

[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.

Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.

[/quote]

I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]

100% right on the mark.

Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!

But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.

Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.

[Hobie]

[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.

Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.

[/quote]

I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]

100% right on the mark.

Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!

But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.

Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.

[Hobie]

[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.

Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.

[/quote]

I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]

100% right on the mark.

Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!

But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.

Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.

[Hobie]

[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.

Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.

[/quote]

I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]

100% right on the mark.

Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!

But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.

Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.

[Hobie]

[quote=SK in CV]Insightful comment.

Specially this part.
[quote=deriving drunk]
In my experience, most dog attacks occur on their home turf, be it their home or immediate surrounds, ie they are defending in a territorial manner. Occasionally packs will feed off each other’s energy, etc. Is it a real risk? Sure, but extremely uncommon.

[/quote]

I’ll expand that a bit to include the event the OP described where a dog on lead was involved with a dog off lead and violence erupted. Dog behaviorists use the term barrier agression. Dogs will often display agression on one side of a fence towards a percieved threat on the opposite side of the fence. But home territory is only a piece of that puzzle. Same thing can occur when one is on lead and one isn’t. (Or two on lead, for that matter.) The one on lead has greater exposure to threats, and is much more likely to display agression. In most cases, it has nothing to do with obedience, it’s temperment. Which makes it extraordinarily risky walking a dog on lead through a dog park with dogs off lead, even with a well trained dog. (I know all hell would break loose if I tried that with my main dog.) A few dozen dogs off lead are unlikely to fight. (not never, just unlikely)[/quote]

100% right on the mark.

Threadjack; Years ago I took my pound puppy lab mix to Dog Beach in OB for the first time. He was ecstatic! Couldn’t stop running!

But there was an, “El Cajoner” any old timers here will recall that is what locals called folks from El Cajon who frequented the beach wearing cutoff jeans, no tan, etc., passed out on the beach. Complete with a 12pack next to him smack dab in the middle of dog beach. Well my dog ran over, sniffed and promptly pissed on him!! The dude exploded in rage and was ready to kick the owners ass. I was a football field away and pretended to not notice all the while laughing my head off.

Yes I did wimp out but sometimes … well I guess you should have been there.

[Hobie]

[quote=edna_mode]The Russians have used a nuclear bomb to stop oil leaks five times in the past:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.kp.ru/daily/24482/640124/

http://trueslant.com/juliaioffe/2010/05/04/nuke-that-slick/

Of course, context for technical solutions is everything. Don’t know the geological differences.

When is hurricane season again?[/quote]

Back in the day they actually considered using a nuclear explosion to speed construction of the 405 freeway through the Sepulveda pass in Los Angeles.

Can’t see the logic using any explosives much less an nuke to ‘cave’ in this well. If anything it would cause millions of small rock fractures all of which could seep oil and gas resulting in a epic disaster.

[Hobie]

[quote=edna_mode]The Russians have used a nuclear bomb to stop oil leaks five times in the past:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.kp.ru/daily/24482/640124/

http://trueslant.com/juliaioffe/2010/05/04/nuke-that-slick/

Of course, context for technical solutions is everything. Don’t know the geological differences.

When is hurricane season again?[/quote]

Back in the day they actually considered using a nuclear explosion to speed construction of the 405 freeway through the Sepulveda pass in Los Angeles.

Can’t see the logic using any explosives much less an nuke to ‘cave’ in this well. If anything it would cause millions of small rock fractures all of which could seep oil and gas resulting in a epic disaster.

[Hobie]

[quote=edna_mode]The Russians have used a nuclear bomb to stop oil leaks five times in the past:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.kp.ru/daily/24482/640124/

http://trueslant.com/juliaioffe/2010/05/04/nuke-that-slick/

Of course, context for technical solutions is everything. Don’t know the geological differences.

When is hurricane season again?[/quote]

Back in the day they actually considered using a nuclear explosion to speed construction of the 405 freeway through the Sepulveda pass in Los Angeles.

Can’t see the logic using any explosives much less an nuke to ‘cave’ in this well. If anything it would cause millions of small rock fractures all of which could seep oil and gas resulting in a epic disaster.

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