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ParticipantDon’t forget to deduct the commission to get the real net price……..
I can also tell you that getting financing approved for SOME condos is very difficult….
A mixed use building or some that are now part hotel/part condo may require *special* rates….
FNMA has limits for an allowed % of non owner units in any complex.
Although FNMA allows non owner, at least one lender who has consistently good rates (.25 better than others) for SFR’s will not consider a rental condo at all, even at 50% LTV.
HLS
ParticipantMarion,
First of all, I am going to eat even if I don’t do a single loan, which is why I have the attitude that I do, but thanks for your concern…and don’t get me started….
The “self-righteous lecture” is what people need more of not less of. There would be a whole lot less FB’s today if they had heard me, instead of agents and other mortgage people that are talking like you.
I hold MYSELF to a higher standard or I wouldn’t be public about who I am and what I do.Let me get this straight, you aren’t even an agent yet and ready to do your first deal with a borrower that may not qualify based on traditional lending standards that have been in place for over 50 years.
There is a REASON that people need to qualify, PROVING that they can afford it.
My statements aren’t invalid.If I don’t know the specifics of the situation then the lender isn’t going to know the specifics of the situation either and if they don’t qualify, then THEY DON’T QUALIFY.
I suppose I could submit an explanation to the lender that states MARION ON PIGGINGTON’S SAYS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
Maybe that will work…I’m thinking that these are your parents and some family member is going to help them if they get into trouble.
That’s all nice and well but unless family members can get qualified for the loan with them, it’s not going to help.Too many people bought houses because someone else told them that they should/could afford it. Family, agents, mortgage scum etc. You have no idea what I hear day after day, week after week, from people that regret what they bought in the last few years.
I don’t deal with that crap. Either you lay your cards on the table and qualify full doc or there’s a problem.
Believe what you want, I’m part of the solution, not part of the problem
Obviously you aren’t telling the whole story of what you “know” that I don’t, but I am responding to what I know.
To qualify they are going to have to state higher income than they really have, and sign a form that permits the lender to check their tax returns if they choose to.
Misstating facts on a loan application is a crime.
I won’t even consider doing a stated income loan unless I see proof of affordability.I probably know better than you the legitimate reasons for a stated income loan rather than a complete liar loan.
I’d be happy to help you if I could, but I’d need to know the little secret that you are hiding about them being able to afford it that can’t be proven to a lender.
I’m available anytime, and truly try to help whenever I can [email protected]
You can also do a search in the box on the left for
Home Loan Sheldon or the recent Problems With My Loan Broker postHLS
ParticipantMarion,
First of all, I am going to eat even if I don’t do a single loan, which is why I have the attitude that I do, but thanks for your concern…and don’t get me started….
The “self-righteous lecture” is what people need more of not less of. There would be a whole lot less FB’s today if they had heard me, instead of agents and other mortgage people that are talking like you.
I hold MYSELF to a higher standard or I wouldn’t be public about who I am and what I do.Let me get this straight, you aren’t even an agent yet and ready to do your first deal with a borrower that may not qualify based on traditional lending standards that have been in place for over 50 years.
There is a REASON that people need to qualify, PROVING that they can afford it.
My statements aren’t invalid.If I don’t know the specifics of the situation then the lender isn’t going to know the specifics of the situation either and if they don’t qualify, then THEY DON’T QUALIFY.
I suppose I could submit an explanation to the lender that states MARION ON PIGGINGTON’S SAYS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
Maybe that will work…I’m thinking that these are your parents and some family member is going to help them if they get into trouble.
That’s all nice and well but unless family members can get qualified for the loan with them, it’s not going to help.Too many people bought houses because someone else told them that they should/could afford it. Family, agents, mortgage scum etc. You have no idea what I hear day after day, week after week, from people that regret what they bought in the last few years.
I don’t deal with that crap. Either you lay your cards on the table and qualify full doc or there’s a problem.
Believe what you want, I’m part of the solution, not part of the problem
Obviously you aren’t telling the whole story of what you “know” that I don’t, but I am responding to what I know.
To qualify they are going to have to state higher income than they really have, and sign a form that permits the lender to check their tax returns if they choose to.
Misstating facts on a loan application is a crime.
I won’t even consider doing a stated income loan unless I see proof of affordability.I probably know better than you the legitimate reasons for a stated income loan rather than a complete liar loan.
I’d be happy to help you if I could, but I’d need to know the little secret that you are hiding about them being able to afford it that can’t be proven to a lender.
I’m available anytime, and truly try to help whenever I can [email protected]
You can also do a search in the box on the left for
Home Loan Sheldon or the recent Problems With My Loan Broker postHLS
ParticipantMarion,
First of all, I am going to eat even if I don’t do a single loan, which is why I have the attitude that I do, but thanks for your concern…and don’t get me started….
The “self-righteous lecture” is what people need more of not less of. There would be a whole lot less FB’s today if they had heard me, instead of agents and other mortgage people that are talking like you.
I hold MYSELF to a higher standard or I wouldn’t be public about who I am and what I do.Let me get this straight, you aren’t even an agent yet and ready to do your first deal with a borrower that may not qualify based on traditional lending standards that have been in place for over 50 years.
There is a REASON that people need to qualify, PROVING that they can afford it.
My statements aren’t invalid.If I don’t know the specifics of the situation then the lender isn’t going to know the specifics of the situation either and if they don’t qualify, then THEY DON’T QUALIFY.
I suppose I could submit an explanation to the lender that states MARION ON PIGGINGTON’S SAYS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
Maybe that will work…I’m thinking that these are your parents and some family member is going to help them if they get into trouble.
That’s all nice and well but unless family members can get qualified for the loan with them, it’s not going to help.Too many people bought houses because someone else told them that they should/could afford it. Family, agents, mortgage scum etc. You have no idea what I hear day after day, week after week, from people that regret what they bought in the last few years.
I don’t deal with that crap. Either you lay your cards on the table and qualify full doc or there’s a problem.
Believe what you want, I’m part of the solution, not part of the problem
Obviously you aren’t telling the whole story of what you “know” that I don’t, but I am responding to what I know.
To qualify they are going to have to state higher income than they really have, and sign a form that permits the lender to check their tax returns if they choose to.
Misstating facts on a loan application is a crime.
I won’t even consider doing a stated income loan unless I see proof of affordability.I probably know better than you the legitimate reasons for a stated income loan rather than a complete liar loan.
I’d be happy to help you if I could, but I’d need to know the little secret that you are hiding about them being able to afford it that can’t be proven to a lender.
I’m available anytime, and truly try to help whenever I can [email protected]
You can also do a search in the box on the left for
Home Loan Sheldon or the recent Problems With My Loan Broker postHLS
ParticipantMarion,
First of all, I am going to eat even if I don’t do a single loan, which is why I have the attitude that I do, but thanks for your concern…and don’t get me started….
The “self-righteous lecture” is what people need more of not less of. There would be a whole lot less FB’s today if they had heard me, instead of agents and other mortgage people that are talking like you.
I hold MYSELF to a higher standard or I wouldn’t be public about who I am and what I do.Let me get this straight, you aren’t even an agent yet and ready to do your first deal with a borrower that may not qualify based on traditional lending standards that have been in place for over 50 years.
There is a REASON that people need to qualify, PROVING that they can afford it.
My statements aren’t invalid.If I don’t know the specifics of the situation then the lender isn’t going to know the specifics of the situation either and if they don’t qualify, then THEY DON’T QUALIFY.
I suppose I could submit an explanation to the lender that states MARION ON PIGGINGTON’S SAYS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
Maybe that will work…I’m thinking that these are your parents and some family member is going to help them if they get into trouble.
That’s all nice and well but unless family members can get qualified for the loan with them, it’s not going to help.Too many people bought houses because someone else told them that they should/could afford it. Family, agents, mortgage scum etc. You have no idea what I hear day after day, week after week, from people that regret what they bought in the last few years.
I don’t deal with that crap. Either you lay your cards on the table and qualify full doc or there’s a problem.
Believe what you want, I’m part of the solution, not part of the problem
Obviously you aren’t telling the whole story of what you “know” that I don’t, but I am responding to what I know.
To qualify they are going to have to state higher income than they really have, and sign a form that permits the lender to check their tax returns if they choose to.
Misstating facts on a loan application is a crime.
I won’t even consider doing a stated income loan unless I see proof of affordability.I probably know better than you the legitimate reasons for a stated income loan rather than a complete liar loan.
I’d be happy to help you if I could, but I’d need to know the little secret that you are hiding about them being able to afford it that can’t be proven to a lender.
I’m available anytime, and truly try to help whenever I can [email protected]
You can also do a search in the box on the left for
Home Loan Sheldon or the recent Problems With My Loan Broker postHLS
ParticipantMarion,
First of all, I am going to eat even if I don’t do a single loan, which is why I have the attitude that I do, but thanks for your concern…and don’t get me started….
The “self-righteous lecture” is what people need more of not less of. There would be a whole lot less FB’s today if they had heard me, instead of agents and other mortgage people that are talking like you.
I hold MYSELF to a higher standard or I wouldn’t be public about who I am and what I do.Let me get this straight, you aren’t even an agent yet and ready to do your first deal with a borrower that may not qualify based on traditional lending standards that have been in place for over 50 years.
There is a REASON that people need to qualify, PROVING that they can afford it.
My statements aren’t invalid.If I don’t know the specifics of the situation then the lender isn’t going to know the specifics of the situation either and if they don’t qualify, then THEY DON’T QUALIFY.
I suppose I could submit an explanation to the lender that states MARION ON PIGGINGTON’S SAYS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
Maybe that will work…I’m thinking that these are your parents and some family member is going to help them if they get into trouble.
That’s all nice and well but unless family members can get qualified for the loan with them, it’s not going to help.Too many people bought houses because someone else told them that they should/could afford it. Family, agents, mortgage scum etc. You have no idea what I hear day after day, week after week, from people that regret what they bought in the last few years.
I don’t deal with that crap. Either you lay your cards on the table and qualify full doc or there’s a problem.
Believe what you want, I’m part of the solution, not part of the problem
Obviously you aren’t telling the whole story of what you “know” that I don’t, but I am responding to what I know.
To qualify they are going to have to state higher income than they really have, and sign a form that permits the lender to check their tax returns if they choose to.
Misstating facts on a loan application is a crime.
I won’t even consider doing a stated income loan unless I see proof of affordability.I probably know better than you the legitimate reasons for a stated income loan rather than a complete liar loan.
I’d be happy to help you if I could, but I’d need to know the little secret that you are hiding about them being able to afford it that can’t be proven to a lender.
I’m available anytime, and truly try to help whenever I can [email protected]
You can also do a search in the box on the left for
Home Loan Sheldon or the recent Problems With My Loan Broker postHLS
ParticipantThey CAN afford the house.
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ACCORDING TO WHO Marion ?? YOU ??
Then YOU give them then loan…NO assets at retirement age,, I’d say that they CAN’T afford to buy a house and would decline to be involved with this loan based on what you say, UNLESS they qualify..
Ever heard of a repair or an unexpected expense or a medical bill or car repair ??
The definition of THEY CAN AFFORD IT is:
They qualify for a loan, (so they POSSIBLY can afford it)!FNMA will allow total debts up to 60% of gross monthly income.
When people bring home 75% of their gross, I don’t see how going to 60% is even prudent.2 years ago, the loans existed.
It’s people thinking like you that contributed to the bubble and the mess.There are retirement homes in Hemet and Sun City below $200,000 ..perhaps they can qualify to buy there.
HLS
ParticipantThey CAN afford the house.
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ACCORDING TO WHO Marion ?? YOU ??
Then YOU give them then loan…NO assets at retirement age,, I’d say that they CAN’T afford to buy a house and would decline to be involved with this loan based on what you say, UNLESS they qualify..
Ever heard of a repair or an unexpected expense or a medical bill or car repair ??
The definition of THEY CAN AFFORD IT is:
They qualify for a loan, (so they POSSIBLY can afford it)!FNMA will allow total debts up to 60% of gross monthly income.
When people bring home 75% of their gross, I don’t see how going to 60% is even prudent.2 years ago, the loans existed.
It’s people thinking like you that contributed to the bubble and the mess.There are retirement homes in Hemet and Sun City below $200,000 ..perhaps they can qualify to buy there.
HLS
ParticipantThey CAN afford the house.
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ACCORDING TO WHO Marion ?? YOU ??
Then YOU give them then loan…NO assets at retirement age,, I’d say that they CAN’T afford to buy a house and would decline to be involved with this loan based on what you say, UNLESS they qualify..
Ever heard of a repair or an unexpected expense or a medical bill or car repair ??
The definition of THEY CAN AFFORD IT is:
They qualify for a loan, (so they POSSIBLY can afford it)!FNMA will allow total debts up to 60% of gross monthly income.
When people bring home 75% of their gross, I don’t see how going to 60% is even prudent.2 years ago, the loans existed.
It’s people thinking like you that contributed to the bubble and the mess.There are retirement homes in Hemet and Sun City below $200,000 ..perhaps they can qualify to buy there.
HLS
ParticipantThey CAN afford the house.
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ACCORDING TO WHO Marion ?? YOU ??
Then YOU give them then loan…NO assets at retirement age,, I’d say that they CAN’T afford to buy a house and would decline to be involved with this loan based on what you say, UNLESS they qualify..
Ever heard of a repair or an unexpected expense or a medical bill or car repair ??
The definition of THEY CAN AFFORD IT is:
They qualify for a loan, (so they POSSIBLY can afford it)!FNMA will allow total debts up to 60% of gross monthly income.
When people bring home 75% of their gross, I don’t see how going to 60% is even prudent.2 years ago, the loans existed.
It’s people thinking like you that contributed to the bubble and the mess.There are retirement homes in Hemet and Sun City below $200,000 ..perhaps they can qualify to buy there.
HLS
ParticipantThey CAN afford the house.
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ACCORDING TO WHO Marion ?? YOU ??
Then YOU give them then loan…NO assets at retirement age,, I’d say that they CAN’T afford to buy a house and would decline to be involved with this loan based on what you say, UNLESS they qualify..
Ever heard of a repair or an unexpected expense or a medical bill or car repair ??
The definition of THEY CAN AFFORD IT is:
They qualify for a loan, (so they POSSIBLY can afford it)!FNMA will allow total debts up to 60% of gross monthly income.
When people bring home 75% of their gross, I don’t see how going to 60% is even prudent.2 years ago, the loans existed.
It’s people thinking like you that contributed to the bubble and the mess.There are retirement homes in Hemet and Sun City below $200,000 ..perhaps they can qualify to buy there.
May 16, 2008 at 11:07 AM in reply to: Buying “mortgages gone sour” for pennies on the dollar… #205884HLS
ParticipantThe biggest danger is a REAL collapse in prices, to the order of 50%-70%, when tens of thousands of “homeowners” with high credit scores say screw it, my score isn’t worth the $300,000-$500,000 that I am upside down.
NON-recourse debt for primary residences has been extended nationwide to refi’s if no cash was taken out as well as purchase loans.
Presidente signed the bill right before Christmas, but it got little coverage. It encourages FC’s ~!!Call it immoral, call it moral hazard, call it what you want. Banks are writing down (and off) BILLIONS, and Paulsen tells FB’s to honor their loans ??
WHAT A SNAKE..protecting his buddies…There is little that will cause prices to rise rapidly over the next 10+ years, and prices by 2015 are unlikely to be back to 2005 levels IMO. (in bubble areas)
The trading of mortgages at a discount DOESN’T affect the selling price of a house… On the rolls, a house that was purchased for 700,000 will show that as last sale, but few will know that the mortgage was sold for 50c on the dollar. (or less) and the borrower’s payment was cut 40%, still a good return for the bottom feeder..
Whatever the govt can do to keep people in homes and paying is their goal. It’s one less FC that will be empty and trade hands at a greatly reduced amount, which reduces the number of comps etc.
Better to keep people in that house and paying with an artificial propped up value, than having to admit it’s value is 30%-40% less, affecting entire neighborhoods and dragging down property tax income as well….
To avoid having to “mark to market” homes is the goal, and avoid millions from walking away becuse it just makes sense.
May 16, 2008 at 11:07 AM in reply to: Buying “mortgages gone sour” for pennies on the dollar… #205935HLS
ParticipantThe biggest danger is a REAL collapse in prices, to the order of 50%-70%, when tens of thousands of “homeowners” with high credit scores say screw it, my score isn’t worth the $300,000-$500,000 that I am upside down.
NON-recourse debt for primary residences has been extended nationwide to refi’s if no cash was taken out as well as purchase loans.
Presidente signed the bill right before Christmas, but it got little coverage. It encourages FC’s ~!!Call it immoral, call it moral hazard, call it what you want. Banks are writing down (and off) BILLIONS, and Paulsen tells FB’s to honor their loans ??
WHAT A SNAKE..protecting his buddies…There is little that will cause prices to rise rapidly over the next 10+ years, and prices by 2015 are unlikely to be back to 2005 levels IMO. (in bubble areas)
The trading of mortgages at a discount DOESN’T affect the selling price of a house… On the rolls, a house that was purchased for 700,000 will show that as last sale, but few will know that the mortgage was sold for 50c on the dollar. (or less) and the borrower’s payment was cut 40%, still a good return for the bottom feeder..
Whatever the govt can do to keep people in homes and paying is their goal. It’s one less FC that will be empty and trade hands at a greatly reduced amount, which reduces the number of comps etc.
Better to keep people in that house and paying with an artificial propped up value, than having to admit it’s value is 30%-40% less, affecting entire neighborhoods and dragging down property tax income as well….
To avoid having to “mark to market” homes is the goal, and avoid millions from walking away becuse it just makes sense.
May 16, 2008 at 11:07 AM in reply to: Buying “mortgages gone sour” for pennies on the dollar… #205964HLS
ParticipantThe biggest danger is a REAL collapse in prices, to the order of 50%-70%, when tens of thousands of “homeowners” with high credit scores say screw it, my score isn’t worth the $300,000-$500,000 that I am upside down.
NON-recourse debt for primary residences has been extended nationwide to refi’s if no cash was taken out as well as purchase loans.
Presidente signed the bill right before Christmas, but it got little coverage. It encourages FC’s ~!!Call it immoral, call it moral hazard, call it what you want. Banks are writing down (and off) BILLIONS, and Paulsen tells FB’s to honor their loans ??
WHAT A SNAKE..protecting his buddies…There is little that will cause prices to rise rapidly over the next 10+ years, and prices by 2015 are unlikely to be back to 2005 levels IMO. (in bubble areas)
The trading of mortgages at a discount DOESN’T affect the selling price of a house… On the rolls, a house that was purchased for 700,000 will show that as last sale, but few will know that the mortgage was sold for 50c on the dollar. (or less) and the borrower’s payment was cut 40%, still a good return for the bottom feeder..
Whatever the govt can do to keep people in homes and paying is their goal. It’s one less FC that will be empty and trade hands at a greatly reduced amount, which reduces the number of comps etc.
Better to keep people in that house and paying with an artificial propped up value, than having to admit it’s value is 30%-40% less, affecting entire neighborhoods and dragging down property tax income as well….
To avoid having to “mark to market” homes is the goal, and avoid millions from walking away becuse it just makes sense.
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