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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Cabal] Believe it or not, they live check to check supporting the McMansion and lifestyle. Not long ago, he ask her to consider getting a job or cut back on discretionary spending. Her answer was “No, if I have to get a job what do I need you for?” The arrogance and sense of entitlement is just unbelievable. This may be an extreme example, but in my experience, there are many women with similar attitudes, especially in mid-upper class north county society. The keeping up with Joneses mentality and competitive nature of these women is truly frightening. I can only conclude that irrational fear of losing everything can drive women to be this way.

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Cabal: If anything, the situation you describe above has only grown worse during the downturn. The parents of one of my players were hammered over the last few years (he was a mortgage broker and she was a Realtor) and their standard of living has plummeted. They seemed to tolerate each other before, but now it’s turned vile and she openly berates him publicly, which is painful and embarrassing to watch. He is a decent enough sort, and he almost acts like he deserves this treatment from her.
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That is just SO wrong. As if these poor guys don’t feel bad enough, being as that men place so much of their self-worth on being good bread winners. To kick someone with they’re down like that is terrible.
I’m often in groups of women where all they do is bitch about their husbands- then they look at me like.. well, what do you have to add to the conversation?
I always say- “I dunno..I like MY husband” which usually doesn’t go over so well.
It’s too bad that husbands and wives are so often more like adversaries than teammates. These people don’t know how nice it is to have someone whose support you can always count on and vice versa.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Cabal] Believe it or not, they live check to check supporting the McMansion and lifestyle. Not long ago, he ask her to consider getting a job or cut back on discretionary spending. Her answer was “No, if I have to get a job what do I need you for?” The arrogance and sense of entitlement is just unbelievable. This may be an extreme example, but in my experience, there are many women with similar attitudes, especially in mid-upper class north county society. The keeping up with Joneses mentality and competitive nature of these women is truly frightening. I can only conclude that irrational fear of losing everything can drive women to be this way.

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Cabal: If anything, the situation you describe above has only grown worse during the downturn. The parents of one of my players were hammered over the last few years (he was a mortgage broker and she was a Realtor) and their standard of living has plummeted. They seemed to tolerate each other before, but now it’s turned vile and she openly berates him publicly, which is painful and embarrassing to watch. He is a decent enough sort, and he almost acts like he deserves this treatment from her.
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That is just SO wrong. As if these poor guys don’t feel bad enough, being as that men place so much of their self-worth on being good bread winners. To kick someone with they’re down like that is terrible.
I’m often in groups of women where all they do is bitch about their husbands- then they look at me like.. well, what do you have to add to the conversation?
I always say- “I dunno..I like MY husband” which usually doesn’t go over so well.
It’s too bad that husbands and wives are so often more like adversaries than teammates. These people don’t know how nice it is to have someone whose support you can always count on and vice versa.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Cabal] Believe it or not, they live check to check supporting the McMansion and lifestyle. Not long ago, he ask her to consider getting a job or cut back on discretionary spending. Her answer was “No, if I have to get a job what do I need you for?” The arrogance and sense of entitlement is just unbelievable. This may be an extreme example, but in my experience, there are many women with similar attitudes, especially in mid-upper class north county society. The keeping up with Joneses mentality and competitive nature of these women is truly frightening. I can only conclude that irrational fear of losing everything can drive women to be this way.

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Cabal: If anything, the situation you describe above has only grown worse during the downturn. The parents of one of my players were hammered over the last few years (he was a mortgage broker and she was a Realtor) and their standard of living has plummeted. They seemed to tolerate each other before, but now it’s turned vile and she openly berates him publicly, which is painful and embarrassing to watch. He is a decent enough sort, and he almost acts like he deserves this treatment from her.
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That is just SO wrong. As if these poor guys don’t feel bad enough, being as that men place so much of their self-worth on being good bread winners. To kick someone with they’re down like that is terrible.
I’m often in groups of women where all they do is bitch about their husbands- then they look at me like.. well, what do you have to add to the conversation?
I always say- “I dunno..I like MY husband” which usually doesn’t go over so well.
It’s too bad that husbands and wives are so often more like adversaries than teammates. These people don’t know how nice it is to have someone whose support you can always count on and vice versa.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Cabal] Believe it or not, they live check to check supporting the McMansion and lifestyle. Not long ago, he ask her to consider getting a job or cut back on discretionary spending. Her answer was “No, if I have to get a job what do I need you for?” The arrogance and sense of entitlement is just unbelievable. This may be an extreme example, but in my experience, there are many women with similar attitudes, especially in mid-upper class north county society. The keeping up with Joneses mentality and competitive nature of these women is truly frightening. I can only conclude that irrational fear of losing everything can drive women to be this way.

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Cabal: If anything, the situation you describe above has only grown worse during the downturn. The parents of one of my players were hammered over the last few years (he was a mortgage broker and she was a Realtor) and their standard of living has plummeted. They seemed to tolerate each other before, but now it’s turned vile and she openly berates him publicly, which is painful and embarrassing to watch. He is a decent enough sort, and he almost acts like he deserves this treatment from her.
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That is just SO wrong. As if these poor guys don’t feel bad enough, being as that men place so much of their self-worth on being good bread winners. To kick someone with they’re down like that is terrible.
I’m often in groups of women where all they do is bitch about their husbands- then they look at me like.. well, what do you have to add to the conversation?
I always say- “I dunno..I like MY husband” which usually doesn’t go over so well.
It’s too bad that husbands and wives are so often more like adversaries than teammates. These people don’t know how nice it is to have someone whose support you can always count on and vice versa.

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[quote=temeculaguy]I took my kids on a ride from Mcmansion to McCondo to McMansion and they are stronger and wiser because of the journey, something in hindsight I’m proud of and she is afraid of.
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Bravo TG, my sentiments exactly. Although Guido and I haven’t quite made it back to he McMansion and country club yet, I’m proud to show my kids the right way to deal with tough times.
There’s nothing to be ashamed of. We used to have money, now we don’t have as much- so we’ve cut back.
Now we go to the YMCA instead of the club and have a Mazda instead of a beemer, big deal.
It’s how you deal with adversity that shows what you are made of, not the amount of stuff that you have.

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[quote=temeculaguy]I took my kids on a ride from Mcmansion to McCondo to McMansion and they are stronger and wiser because of the journey, something in hindsight I’m proud of and she is afraid of.
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Bravo TG, my sentiments exactly. Although Guido and I haven’t quite made it back to he McMansion and country club yet, I’m proud to show my kids the right way to deal with tough times.
There’s nothing to be ashamed of. We used to have money, now we don’t have as much- so we’ve cut back.
Now we go to the YMCA instead of the club and have a Mazda instead of a beemer, big deal.
It’s how you deal with adversity that shows what you are made of, not the amount of stuff that you have.

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[quote=temeculaguy]I took my kids on a ride from Mcmansion to McCondo to McMansion and they are stronger and wiser because of the journey, something in hindsight I’m proud of and she is afraid of.
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Bravo TG, my sentiments exactly. Although Guido and I haven’t quite made it back to he McMansion and country club yet, I’m proud to show my kids the right way to deal with tough times.
There’s nothing to be ashamed of. We used to have money, now we don’t have as much- so we’ve cut back.
Now we go to the YMCA instead of the club and have a Mazda instead of a beemer, big deal.
It’s how you deal with adversity that shows what you are made of, not the amount of stuff that you have.

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[quote=temeculaguy]I took my kids on a ride from Mcmansion to McCondo to McMansion and they are stronger and wiser because of the journey, something in hindsight I’m proud of and she is afraid of.
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Bravo TG, my sentiments exactly. Although Guido and I haven’t quite made it back to he McMansion and country club yet, I’m proud to show my kids the right way to deal with tough times.
There’s nothing to be ashamed of. We used to have money, now we don’t have as much- so we’ve cut back.
Now we go to the YMCA instead of the club and have a Mazda instead of a beemer, big deal.
It’s how you deal with adversity that shows what you are made of, not the amount of stuff that you have.

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[quote=temeculaguy]I took my kids on a ride from Mcmansion to McCondo to McMansion and they are stronger and wiser because of the journey, something in hindsight I’m proud of and she is afraid of.
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Bravo TG, my sentiments exactly. Although Guido and I haven’t quite made it back to he McMansion and country club yet, I’m proud to show my kids the right way to deal with tough times.
There’s nothing to be ashamed of. We used to have money, now we don’t have as much- so we’ve cut back.
Now we go to the YMCA instead of the club and have a Mazda instead of a beemer, big deal.
It’s how you deal with adversity that shows what you are made of, not the amount of stuff that you have.

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How about a dead horse head in the passenger seat?

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How about a dead horse head in the passenger seat?

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How about a dead horse head in the passenger seat?

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How about a dead horse head in the passenger seat?

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How about a dead horse head in the passenger seat?

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Well, Guido and I finally decided to end the frustration and found another rental house that we actually like and plan to stay in.
We had only planned to be in our current rental for a few months while looking to buy, and never really liked it. But since the inevitable decline in home prices is being dragged out so long we thought we should just get comfortable and wait it out.
We were temped a few times to buy, but I just couldn’t stomach fighting with twenty other people over some crummy shack. And we still can’t afford the higher priced areas. It’ll be interesting to see how things pan out in light of the spring-summer uptick in prices.

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