[fredo4]

I feel your pain. My advice would be to do what we did and find a really great rental house (perhaps in the area where you’d like to eventually buy) and hunker down for the next few months (or years)until things are less weird. The truth is that nobody knows how this is all going to pan out with all of the government intervention. Why fight over the few crummy houses available to buy? Wait until buying conditions are more in your favor. It’s better to keep liquid in these uncertain times anyway.

[fredo4]

I feel your pain. My advice would be to do what we did and find a really great rental house (perhaps in the area where you’d like to eventually buy) and hunker down for the next few months (or years)until things are less weird. The truth is that nobody knows how this is all going to pan out with all of the government intervention. Why fight over the few crummy houses available to buy? Wait until buying conditions are more in your favor. It’s better to keep liquid in these uncertain times anyway.

[fredo4]

I feel your pain. My advice would be to do what we did and find a really great rental house (perhaps in the area where you’d like to eventually buy) and hunker down for the next few months (or years)until things are less weird. The truth is that nobody knows how this is all going to pan out with all of the government intervention. Why fight over the few crummy houses available to buy? Wait until buying conditions are more in your favor. It’s better to keep liquid in these uncertain times anyway.

[fredo4]

I feel your pain. My advice would be to do what we did and find a really great rental house (perhaps in the area where you’d like to eventually buy) and hunker down for the next few months (or years)until things are less weird. The truth is that nobody knows how this is all going to pan out with all of the government intervention. Why fight over the few crummy houses available to buy? Wait until buying conditions are more in your favor. It’s better to keep liquid in these uncertain times anyway.

[fredo4]

Despite thinking the opposite of themselves, I’ve found, surprisingly, that non-religious, college educated people tend to be the least tolerant and the most conformist.

[fredo4]

Despite thinking the opposite of themselves, I’ve found, surprisingly, that non-religious, college educated people tend to be the least tolerant and the most conformist.

[fredo4]

Despite thinking the opposite of themselves, I’ve found, surprisingly, that non-religious, college educated people tend to be the least tolerant and the most conformist.

[fredo4]

Despite thinking the opposite of themselves, I’ve found, surprisingly, that non-religious, college educated people tend to be the least tolerant and the most conformist.

[fredo4]

Despite thinking the opposite of themselves, I’ve found, surprisingly, that non-religious, college educated people tend to be the least tolerant and the most conformist.

[fredo4]

[quote=briansd1]The question is whose choice is more important.

The woman’s choice is most important.

The fetus cannot choose. And the fetus’ religious defenders’ opinions count much less than the wishes of the woman.
[/quote]

This last statement needs a soundtrack

[fredo4]

[quote=briansd1]The question is whose choice is more important.

The woman’s choice is most important.

The fetus cannot choose. And the fetus’ religious defenders’ opinions count much less than the wishes of the woman.
[/quote]

This last statement needs a soundtrack

[fredo4]

[quote=briansd1]The question is whose choice is more important.

The woman’s choice is most important.

The fetus cannot choose. And the fetus’ religious defenders’ opinions count much less than the wishes of the woman.
[/quote]

This last statement needs a soundtrack

[fredo4]

[quote=briansd1]The question is whose choice is more important.

The woman’s choice is most important.

The fetus cannot choose. And the fetus’ religious defenders’ opinions count much less than the wishes of the woman.
[/quote]

This last statement needs a soundtrack

[fredo4]

[quote=briansd1]The question is whose choice is more important.

The woman’s choice is most important.

The fetus cannot choose. And the fetus’ religious defenders’ opinions count much less than the wishes of the woman.
[/quote]

This last statement needs a soundtrack

[fredo4]

[quote=briansd1]

A fetus is not a baby because it’s not been born yet and it can’t have any feelings or even a conscience.

It’s an “it” for a reason. It’s not a “he” or a “she”.

If I had been aborted, then I wouldn’t know any better so it wouldn’t matter to me. [/quote]

The question that I asked regarding whether or not you thought that a premature baby had feelings was in reference to this statement that you made.
It was not a legal question. Obviously abortion is legal and there’s not much any one person can do about it. I’m not trying to change your mind because I know that once a person has dug in their heels on an issue like this it’s pretty futile to try. I’m just wondering when you think a baby or “fetus” starts to have feelings. It’s interesting to me because I used to think the way you do. It never occured to me to do anything else but abort an unwanted pregnancy because it’s just a ball of cells- right? I didn’t change my mind until I went through my own (wanted) pregnancy and saw through ultrasounds how early the baby is formed and seems sensate. It has been shown, for example, that a fetus at 9 weeks responds to light touching of the feet and face. Fetuses will also start to touch their own genitals very early on. I have an ultrasound video of my youngest child yawning when I was 16 weeks pregnant.

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