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[quote=afx114]I hope that Obama does release the complete info. Transparency is a good thing. Lets find out exactly what went on and whether or not it was effective. How else are we supposed to make education decisions on things if we don’t have all of the info? I do, however, find it ironic that the same crowd who claimed that releasing any information would put America at risk are now asking for more to be released. Welcome to the world of politics, I guess.[/quote]

We’re still waiting for the transparency Obama promised.

As a Chicago native I’m keenly interested in transparency. I’m still waiting for whatever was said between our former Governor Blago and Obama or his surrogates like, Emmanuel, and our new Senator Burris, but no one’s talking.

I’m still waiting for Obama to produce his birth records or for Obama to let us know whatever he did traveling the world and how he managed to pay for such.

I would welcome transparency for things and many other things that don’t compromise security.

Otoh I’m not too keen on letting our enemies know what we do or don’t do to get info. Letting them know what we do only lets them prepare for such and it lets them know what we won’t do, which only takes away the psychological advantage from our interrogators.

Why you find it ironic that anyone would not want things that compromise our intelligence gathering and/or security to come out but welcomes info demonstrating how effective our info gathering is is really puzzling.

There is no irony involved at all.

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[quote=afx114]I hope that Obama does release the complete info. Transparency is a good thing. Lets find out exactly what went on and whether or not it was effective. How else are we supposed to make education decisions on things if we don’t have all of the info? I do, however, find it ironic that the same crowd who claimed that releasing any information would put America at risk are now asking for more to be released. Welcome to the world of politics, I guess.[/quote]

We’re still waiting for the transparency Obama promised.

As a Chicago native I’m keenly interested in transparency. I’m still waiting for whatever was said between our former Governor Blago and Obama or his surrogates like, Emmanuel, and our new Senator Burris, but no one’s talking.

I’m still waiting for Obama to produce his birth records or for Obama to let us know whatever he did traveling the world and how he managed to pay for such.

I would welcome transparency for things and many other things that don’t compromise security.

Otoh I’m not too keen on letting our enemies know what we do or don’t do to get info. Letting them know what we do only lets them prepare for such and it lets them know what we won’t do, which only takes away the psychological advantage from our interrogators.

Why you find it ironic that anyone would not want things that compromise our intelligence gathering and/or security to come out but welcomes info demonstrating how effective our info gathering is is really puzzling.

There is no irony involved at all.

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[quote=afx114]I hope that Obama does release the complete info. Transparency is a good thing. Lets find out exactly what went on and whether or not it was effective. How else are we supposed to make education decisions on things if we don’t have all of the info? I do, however, find it ironic that the same crowd who claimed that releasing any information would put America at risk are now asking for more to be released. Welcome to the world of politics, I guess.[/quote]

We’re still waiting for the transparency Obama promised.

As a Chicago native I’m keenly interested in transparency. I’m still waiting for whatever was said between our former Governor Blago and Obama or his surrogates like, Emmanuel, and our new Senator Burris, but no one’s talking.

I’m still waiting for Obama to produce his birth records or for Obama to let us know whatever he did traveling the world and how he managed to pay for such.

I would welcome transparency for things and many other things that don’t compromise security.

Otoh I’m not too keen on letting our enemies know what we do or don’t do to get info. Letting them know what we do only lets them prepare for such and it lets them know what we won’t do, which only takes away the psychological advantage from our interrogators.

Why you find it ironic that anyone would not want things that compromise our intelligence gathering and/or security to come out but welcomes info demonstrating how effective our info gathering is is really puzzling.

There is no irony involved at all.

[felix]

[quote=afx114]I hope that Obama does release the complete info. Transparency is a good thing. Lets find out exactly what went on and whether or not it was effective. How else are we supposed to make education decisions on things if we don’t have all of the info? I do, however, find it ironic that the same crowd who claimed that releasing any information would put America at risk are now asking for more to be released. Welcome to the world of politics, I guess.[/quote]

We’re still waiting for the transparency Obama promised.

As a Chicago native I’m keenly interested in transparency. I’m still waiting for whatever was said between our former Governor Blago and Obama or his surrogates like, Emmanuel, and our new Senator Burris, but no one’s talking.

I’m still waiting for Obama to produce his birth records or for Obama to let us know whatever he did traveling the world and how he managed to pay for such.

I would welcome transparency for things and many other things that don’t compromise security.

Otoh I’m not too keen on letting our enemies know what we do or don’t do to get info. Letting them know what we do only lets them prepare for such and it lets them know what we won’t do, which only takes away the psychological advantage from our interrogators.

Why you find it ironic that anyone would not want things that compromise our intelligence gathering and/or security to come out but welcomes info demonstrating how effective our info gathering is is really puzzling.

There is no irony involved at all.

[felix]

[quote=afx114]I hope that Obama does release the complete info. Transparency is a good thing. Lets find out exactly what went on and whether or not it was effective. How else are we supposed to make education decisions on things if we don’t have all of the info? I do, however, find it ironic that the same crowd who claimed that releasing any information would put America at risk are now asking for more to be released. Welcome to the world of politics, I guess.[/quote]

We’re still waiting for the transparency Obama promised.

As a Chicago native I’m keenly interested in transparency. I’m still waiting for whatever was said between our former Governor Blago and Obama or his surrogates like, Emmanuel, and our new Senator Burris, but no one’s talking.

I’m still waiting for Obama to produce his birth records or for Obama to let us know whatever he did traveling the world and how he managed to pay for such.

I would welcome transparency for things and many other things that don’t compromise security.

Otoh I’m not too keen on letting our enemies know what we do or don’t do to get info. Letting them know what we do only lets them prepare for such and it lets them know what we won’t do, which only takes away the psychological advantage from our interrogators.

Why you find it ironic that anyone would not want things that compromise our intelligence gathering and/or security to come out but welcomes info demonstrating how effective our info gathering is is really puzzling.

There is no irony involved at all.

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Just today it has been reported that Dick Cheney asked that the Obama administration release the complete info on the interrogation activities. His reason was to demonstrate the valuable intelligence was gathered and what this information helped prevent.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for this info to be released. The Obama administration isn’t about to produce any info that contradicts one of their main arguments, that “torture” doesn’t work or result in reliable info.

Next, the techniques used to gain this information did not fit the strict definition of torture. Torture, strictly defined is required to cause either permanent physical or psychological damage to the subject. The techniques we have and still use do not cause either.

[felix]

Just today it has been reported that Dick Cheney asked that the Obama administration release the complete info on the interrogation activities. His reason was to demonstrate the valuable intelligence was gathered and what this information helped prevent.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for this info to be released. The Obama administration isn’t about to produce any info that contradicts one of their main arguments, that “torture” doesn’t work or result in reliable info.

Next, the techniques used to gain this information did not fit the strict definition of torture. Torture, strictly defined is required to cause either permanent physical or psychological damage to the subject. The techniques we have and still use do not cause either.

[felix]

Just today it has been reported that Dick Cheney asked that the Obama administration release the complete info on the interrogation activities. His reason was to demonstrate the valuable intelligence was gathered and what this information helped prevent.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for this info to be released. The Obama administration isn’t about to produce any info that contradicts one of their main arguments, that “torture” doesn’t work or result in reliable info.

Next, the techniques used to gain this information did not fit the strict definition of torture. Torture, strictly defined is required to cause either permanent physical or psychological damage to the subject. The techniques we have and still use do not cause either.

[felix]

Just today it has been reported that Dick Cheney asked that the Obama administration release the complete info on the interrogation activities. His reason was to demonstrate the valuable intelligence was gathered and what this information helped prevent.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for this info to be released. The Obama administration isn’t about to produce any info that contradicts one of their main arguments, that “torture” doesn’t work or result in reliable info.

Next, the techniques used to gain this information did not fit the strict definition of torture. Torture, strictly defined is required to cause either permanent physical or psychological damage to the subject. The techniques we have and still use do not cause either.

[felix]

Just today it has been reported that Dick Cheney asked that the Obama administration release the complete info on the interrogation activities. His reason was to demonstrate the valuable intelligence was gathered and what this information helped prevent.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for this info to be released. The Obama administration isn’t about to produce any info that contradicts one of their main arguments, that “torture” doesn’t work or result in reliable info.

Next, the techniques used to gain this information did not fit the strict definition of torture. Torture, strictly defined is required to cause either permanent physical or psychological damage to the subject. The techniques we have and still use do not cause either.

[felix]

Obama’s recent embarrassing moments overseas have made me question his intelligence.

How anyone can’t remember, Liberté, egalité, fraternité — especially when it’s the theme of the speech is mind boggling. I used to think Obama was reasonably bright but I now I think he is a product of affirmative action whose only talent is that he can read a teleprompter well and deliver vapid speeches well. Folks in the crowd were laughing at Obama.

http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/

And contrary to the propaganda of us now having a “respected” leader, President Sarkozy of French, in private, doesn’t think much of him at all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/world_agenda/article6098836.ece

[felix]

Obama’s recent embarrassing moments overseas have made me question his intelligence.

How anyone can’t remember, Liberté, egalité, fraternité — especially when it’s the theme of the speech is mind boggling. I used to think Obama was reasonably bright but I now I think he is a product of affirmative action whose only talent is that he can read a teleprompter well and deliver vapid speeches well. Folks in the crowd were laughing at Obama.

http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/

And contrary to the propaganda of us now having a “respected” leader, President Sarkozy of French, in private, doesn’t think much of him at all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/world_agenda/article6098836.ece

[felix]

Obama’s recent embarrassing moments overseas have made me question his intelligence.

How anyone can’t remember, Liberté, egalité, fraternité — especially when it’s the theme of the speech is mind boggling. I used to think Obama was reasonably bright but I now I think he is a product of affirmative action whose only talent is that he can read a teleprompter well and deliver vapid speeches well. Folks in the crowd were laughing at Obama.

http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/

And contrary to the propaganda of us now having a “respected” leader, President Sarkozy of French, in private, doesn’t think much of him at all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/world_agenda/article6098836.ece

[felix]

Obama’s recent embarrassing moments overseas have made me question his intelligence.

How anyone can’t remember, Liberté, egalité, fraternité — especially when it’s the theme of the speech is mind boggling. I used to think Obama was reasonably bright but I now I think he is a product of affirmative action whose only talent is that he can read a teleprompter well and deliver vapid speeches well. Folks in the crowd were laughing at Obama.

http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/

And contrary to the propaganda of us now having a “respected” leader, President Sarkozy of French, in private, doesn’t think much of him at all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/world_agenda/article6098836.ece

[felix]

Obama’s recent embarrassing moments overseas have made me question his intelligence.

How anyone can’t remember, Liberté, egalité, fraternité — especially when it’s the theme of the speech is mind boggling. I used to think Obama was reasonably bright but I now I think he is a product of affirmative action whose only talent is that he can read a teleprompter well and deliver vapid speeches well. Folks in the crowd were laughing at Obama.

http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/

And contrary to the propaganda of us now having a “respected” leader, President Sarkozy of French, in private, doesn’t think much of him at all.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/world_agenda/article6098836.ece

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