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June 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #229616June 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #229735
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ParticipantAllan: Well said.
One of the reasons that we decided to move to SC when we decided to leave San Diego was because of the liberal gun laws and CCW laws. I had a CCW in San Diego in the 80’s and early 90’s but then the politicians inserted their noses into CCW permits and that became a thing of the past. In SC, you can even carry a pistol in your unlocked, glove compartment and you don’t have to have a CCW permit. This really holds down the number of attempted car-jackings because the criminals never know who has a gun in their car. I’m very unhappy with GWB but this far-left leaning Obama gives me a very bad feeling and I’m old enough to have seen enough of these types occupying other political offices (aka Kerry, Kennedy, Feinstein, Boxer, etc) to know that I don’t want him in the White House. It took me a while to come to this conclusion because he was unknown to me (and most of the nation) when he announced his candidacy. Now that I’ve watched him side-step the overwhelming majority of issues when asked some hard questions and watched his relationships with Rev Wright come out in the open……………………I’ve made up my mind that McCain may not be my ideal candidate but he’s a whole lot better for my ideals than Barry Obama.June 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #229744Ex-SD
ParticipantAllan: Well said.
One of the reasons that we decided to move to SC when we decided to leave San Diego was because of the liberal gun laws and CCW laws. I had a CCW in San Diego in the 80’s and early 90’s but then the politicians inserted their noses into CCW permits and that became a thing of the past. In SC, you can even carry a pistol in your unlocked, glove compartment and you don’t have to have a CCW permit. This really holds down the number of attempted car-jackings because the criminals never know who has a gun in their car. I’m very unhappy with GWB but this far-left leaning Obama gives me a very bad feeling and I’m old enough to have seen enough of these types occupying other political offices (aka Kerry, Kennedy, Feinstein, Boxer, etc) to know that I don’t want him in the White House. It took me a while to come to this conclusion because he was unknown to me (and most of the nation) when he announced his candidacy. Now that I’ve watched him side-step the overwhelming majority of issues when asked some hard questions and watched his relationships with Rev Wright come out in the open……………………I’ve made up my mind that McCain may not be my ideal candidate but he’s a whole lot better for my ideals than Barry Obama.June 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #229778Ex-SD
ParticipantAllan: Well said.
One of the reasons that we decided to move to SC when we decided to leave San Diego was because of the liberal gun laws and CCW laws. I had a CCW in San Diego in the 80’s and early 90’s but then the politicians inserted their noses into CCW permits and that became a thing of the past. In SC, you can even carry a pistol in your unlocked, glove compartment and you don’t have to have a CCW permit. This really holds down the number of attempted car-jackings because the criminals never know who has a gun in their car. I’m very unhappy with GWB but this far-left leaning Obama gives me a very bad feeling and I’m old enough to have seen enough of these types occupying other political offices (aka Kerry, Kennedy, Feinstein, Boxer, etc) to know that I don’t want him in the White House. It took me a while to come to this conclusion because he was unknown to me (and most of the nation) when he announced his candidacy. Now that I’ve watched him side-step the overwhelming majority of issues when asked some hard questions and watched his relationships with Rev Wright come out in the open……………………I’ve made up my mind that McCain may not be my ideal candidate but he’s a whole lot better for my ideals than Barry Obama.June 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM in reply to: McCain should win in landslide. Obama turning out to be a lightweight. #229794Ex-SD
ParticipantAllan: Well said.
One of the reasons that we decided to move to SC when we decided to leave San Diego was because of the liberal gun laws and CCW laws. I had a CCW in San Diego in the 80’s and early 90’s but then the politicians inserted their noses into CCW permits and that became a thing of the past. In SC, you can even carry a pistol in your unlocked, glove compartment and you don’t have to have a CCW permit. This really holds down the number of attempted car-jackings because the criminals never know who has a gun in their car. I’m very unhappy with GWB but this far-left leaning Obama gives me a very bad feeling and I’m old enough to have seen enough of these types occupying other political offices (aka Kerry, Kennedy, Feinstein, Boxer, etc) to know that I don’t want him in the White House. It took me a while to come to this conclusion because he was unknown to me (and most of the nation) when he announced his candidacy. Now that I’ve watched him side-step the overwhelming majority of issues when asked some hard questions and watched his relationships with Rev Wright come out in the open……………………I’ve made up my mind that McCain may not be my ideal candidate but he’s a whole lot better for my ideals than Barry Obama.Ex-SD
Participantjbinpb: The lateral stress that a sidecar puts on the frame is too much for that little, sidecar frame. There is no safe way to make it safe enough to where I would ever put anyone in a scooter/sidecar rig and feel comfortable. Yes, you see some people do it but they are truly playing with fire.
Sidecars can be a blast to ride and own but you need a strong motorcycle frame (and usually a subframe on the bike) to connect the sidecar to or you wind up with catastrophic metal failure with the frame.
Also, with a scooter, the extra weight of the sidecar (even without a passenger in the car) the extra stress and weight on the engine and transmission of a scooter is probably ten-fold that of attaching a sidecar to a motorcycle. If anyone tries to tell you something different, they’re just trying to sell you something where they’ll make a buck. It’s not safe.Ex-SD
Participantjbinpb: The lateral stress that a sidecar puts on the frame is too much for that little, sidecar frame. There is no safe way to make it safe enough to where I would ever put anyone in a scooter/sidecar rig and feel comfortable. Yes, you see some people do it but they are truly playing with fire.
Sidecars can be a blast to ride and own but you need a strong motorcycle frame (and usually a subframe on the bike) to connect the sidecar to or you wind up with catastrophic metal failure with the frame.
Also, with a scooter, the extra weight of the sidecar (even without a passenger in the car) the extra stress and weight on the engine and transmission of a scooter is probably ten-fold that of attaching a sidecar to a motorcycle. If anyone tries to tell you something different, they’re just trying to sell you something where they’ll make a buck. It’s not safe.Ex-SD
Participantjbinpb: The lateral stress that a sidecar puts on the frame is too much for that little, sidecar frame. There is no safe way to make it safe enough to where I would ever put anyone in a scooter/sidecar rig and feel comfortable. Yes, you see some people do it but they are truly playing with fire.
Sidecars can be a blast to ride and own but you need a strong motorcycle frame (and usually a subframe on the bike) to connect the sidecar to or you wind up with catastrophic metal failure with the frame.
Also, with a scooter, the extra weight of the sidecar (even without a passenger in the car) the extra stress and weight on the engine and transmission of a scooter is probably ten-fold that of attaching a sidecar to a motorcycle. If anyone tries to tell you something different, they’re just trying to sell you something where they’ll make a buck. It’s not safe.Ex-SD
Participantjbinpb: The lateral stress that a sidecar puts on the frame is too much for that little, sidecar frame. There is no safe way to make it safe enough to where I would ever put anyone in a scooter/sidecar rig and feel comfortable. Yes, you see some people do it but they are truly playing with fire.
Sidecars can be a blast to ride and own but you need a strong motorcycle frame (and usually a subframe on the bike) to connect the sidecar to or you wind up with catastrophic metal failure with the frame.
Also, with a scooter, the extra weight of the sidecar (even without a passenger in the car) the extra stress and weight on the engine and transmission of a scooter is probably ten-fold that of attaching a sidecar to a motorcycle. If anyone tries to tell you something different, they’re just trying to sell you something where they’ll make a buck. It’s not safe.Ex-SD
Participantjbinpb: The lateral stress that a sidecar puts on the frame is too much for that little, sidecar frame. There is no safe way to make it safe enough to where I would ever put anyone in a scooter/sidecar rig and feel comfortable. Yes, you see some people do it but they are truly playing with fire.
Sidecars can be a blast to ride and own but you need a strong motorcycle frame (and usually a subframe on the bike) to connect the sidecar to or you wind up with catastrophic metal failure with the frame.
Also, with a scooter, the extra weight of the sidecar (even without a passenger in the car) the extra stress and weight on the engine and transmission of a scooter is probably ten-fold that of attaching a sidecar to a motorcycle. If anyone tries to tell you something different, they’re just trying to sell you something where they’ll make a buck. It’s not safe.Ex-SD
ParticipantI rode motorcycles for 35 years. Gave them up around a year and a half ago……………thought I had them out of my system……………….BUT, today, I bought a new Vespa, GTS 250cc scooter to putt around on.
jpinpb: A piece of well-seasoned advice: Whatever you do, DO NOT put a sidecar on your Vespa scooter. The frame will probably crack and you will wear out your CVT parts every 2k or less miles. We have owned seven sidecar rigs over the last 35 years (my wife preferred driving a sidecar rig rather than riding solo) and our children grew up, riding in them. We took a couple of NorCal vacations where we took our three children and a dog on two sidecar rigs (one of them pulling a small utility trailer).
Sidecars are great but you really only want to put one on a larger motorcycle……………..never a scooter.Ex-SD
ParticipantI rode motorcycles for 35 years. Gave them up around a year and a half ago……………thought I had them out of my system……………….BUT, today, I bought a new Vespa, GTS 250cc scooter to putt around on.
jpinpb: A piece of well-seasoned advice: Whatever you do, DO NOT put a sidecar on your Vespa scooter. The frame will probably crack and you will wear out your CVT parts every 2k or less miles. We have owned seven sidecar rigs over the last 35 years (my wife preferred driving a sidecar rig rather than riding solo) and our children grew up, riding in them. We took a couple of NorCal vacations where we took our three children and a dog on two sidecar rigs (one of them pulling a small utility trailer).
Sidecars are great but you really only want to put one on a larger motorcycle……………..never a scooter.Ex-SD
ParticipantI rode motorcycles for 35 years. Gave them up around a year and a half ago……………thought I had them out of my system……………….BUT, today, I bought a new Vespa, GTS 250cc scooter to putt around on.
jpinpb: A piece of well-seasoned advice: Whatever you do, DO NOT put a sidecar on your Vespa scooter. The frame will probably crack and you will wear out your CVT parts every 2k or less miles. We have owned seven sidecar rigs over the last 35 years (my wife preferred driving a sidecar rig rather than riding solo) and our children grew up, riding in them. We took a couple of NorCal vacations where we took our three children and a dog on two sidecar rigs (one of them pulling a small utility trailer).
Sidecars are great but you really only want to put one on a larger motorcycle……………..never a scooter.Ex-SD
ParticipantI rode motorcycles for 35 years. Gave them up around a year and a half ago……………thought I had them out of my system……………….BUT, today, I bought a new Vespa, GTS 250cc scooter to putt around on.
jpinpb: A piece of well-seasoned advice: Whatever you do, DO NOT put a sidecar on your Vespa scooter. The frame will probably crack and you will wear out your CVT parts every 2k or less miles. We have owned seven sidecar rigs over the last 35 years (my wife preferred driving a sidecar rig rather than riding solo) and our children grew up, riding in them. We took a couple of NorCal vacations where we took our three children and a dog on two sidecar rigs (one of them pulling a small utility trailer).
Sidecars are great but you really only want to put one on a larger motorcycle……………..never a scooter.Ex-SD
ParticipantI rode motorcycles for 35 years. Gave them up around a year and a half ago……………thought I had them out of my system……………….BUT, today, I bought a new Vespa, GTS 250cc scooter to putt around on.
jpinpb: A piece of well-seasoned advice: Whatever you do, DO NOT put a sidecar on your Vespa scooter. The frame will probably crack and you will wear out your CVT parts every 2k or less miles. We have owned seven sidecar rigs over the last 35 years (my wife preferred driving a sidecar rig rather than riding solo) and our children grew up, riding in them. We took a couple of NorCal vacations where we took our three children and a dog on two sidecar rigs (one of them pulling a small utility trailer).
Sidecars are great but you really only want to put one on a larger motorcycle……………..never a scooter. -
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