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Participant80k confirmed violent civilian deaths which have been recorded by appropriate witnesses. Add non-violent deaths (hunger, disease, etc.), deaths that weren’t properly witnessed – maybe 600k is an exagerration but 150k seems very probable.
ParticipantIf you look into what Saddam was doing to his own people: It had to change.
It may sound extremely cynical but … Saddam was the only person who knew how to maintain order in Iraq without extreme bloodshed.
Saddam’ regime was successful at managing the country at the cost of 15-20 thousand civilian deaths per year. Since we got there, an estimated 600 thousand people have died, either killed by Americans or their fellow Iraqis. No guarantee that the situation will stabilize if we withdraw.
Some countries just don’t seem to be ready for democracy.
ParticipantIf you look into what Saddam was doing to his own people: It had to change.
It may sound extremely cynical but … Saddam was the only person who knew how to maintain order in Iraq without extreme bloodshed.
Saddam’ regime was successful at managing the country at the cost of 15-20 thousand civilian deaths per year. Since we got there, an estimated 600 thousand people have died, either killed by Americans or their fellow Iraqis. No guarantee that the situation will stabilize if we withdraw.
Some countries just don’t seem to be ready for democracy.
ParticipantIf you look into what Saddam was doing to his own people: It had to change.
It may sound extremely cynical but … Saddam was the only person who knew how to maintain order in Iraq without extreme bloodshed.
Saddam’ regime was successful at managing the country at the cost of 15-20 thousand civilian deaths per year. Since we got there, an estimated 600 thousand people have died, either killed by Americans or their fellow Iraqis. No guarantee that the situation will stabilize if we withdraw.
Some countries just don’t seem to be ready for democracy.
ParticipantIf you look into what Saddam was doing to his own people: It had to change.
It may sound extremely cynical but … Saddam was the only person who knew how to maintain order in Iraq without extreme bloodshed.
Saddam’ regime was successful at managing the country at the cost of 15-20 thousand civilian deaths per year. Since we got there, an estimated 600 thousand people have died, either killed by Americans or their fellow Iraqis. No guarantee that the situation will stabilize if we withdraw.
Some countries just don’t seem to be ready for democracy.
ParticipantIf you look into what Saddam was doing to his own people: It had to change.
It may sound extremely cynical but … Saddam was the only person who knew how to maintain order in Iraq without extreme bloodshed.
Saddam’ regime was successful at managing the country at the cost of 15-20 thousand civilian deaths per year. Since we got there, an estimated 600 thousand people have died, either killed by Americans or their fellow Iraqis. No guarantee that the situation will stabilize if we withdraw.
Some countries just don’t seem to be ready for democracy.
ParticipantWe are seeing gold drop because these speculators are having to liquidate investments to cover themselves. I would wait until total capitulation before getting into gold.
This market reminds me of August 07. Gold was falling too then.
ParticipantWe are seeing gold drop because these speculators are having to liquidate investments to cover themselves. I would wait until total capitulation before getting into gold.
This market reminds me of August 07. Gold was falling too then.
ParticipantWe are seeing gold drop because these speculators are having to liquidate investments to cover themselves. I would wait until total capitulation before getting into gold.
This market reminds me of August 07. Gold was falling too then.
ParticipantWe are seeing gold drop because these speculators are having to liquidate investments to cover themselves. I would wait until total capitulation before getting into gold.
This market reminds me of August 07. Gold was falling too then.
ParticipantWe are seeing gold drop because these speculators are having to liquidate investments to cover themselves. I would wait until total capitulation before getting into gold.
This market reminds me of August 07. Gold was falling too then.
Participant“Jan 21 (Reuters) – European shares fell sharply on Monday, wiping out more than $300 billion in market value in their biggest one-day slide since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, as fears of a U.S. recession sparked a broad-based sell-off.
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The slide in these three national blue-chip indexes led to a loss in market capitalisation roughly equal to the combined gross domestic product of Ireland and Romania.” (ha ha)
Russia closed almost 8% down, Brazil is trading 6.9% down, so BRIC meltdown is complete.
Germany is down 7% in one day.
Participant“Jan 21 (Reuters) – European shares fell sharply on Monday, wiping out more than $300 billion in market value in their biggest one-day slide since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, as fears of a U.S. recession sparked a broad-based sell-off.
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The slide in these three national blue-chip indexes led to a loss in market capitalisation roughly equal to the combined gross domestic product of Ireland and Romania.” (ha ha)
Russia closed almost 8% down, Brazil is trading 6.9% down, so BRIC meltdown is complete.
Germany is down 7% in one day.
Participant“Jan 21 (Reuters) – European shares fell sharply on Monday, wiping out more than $300 billion in market value in their biggest one-day slide since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, as fears of a U.S. recession sparked a broad-based sell-off.
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The slide in these three national blue-chip indexes led to a loss in market capitalisation roughly equal to the combined gross domestic product of Ireland and Romania.” (ha ha)
Russia closed almost 8% down, Brazil is trading 6.9% down, so BRIC meltdown is complete.
Germany is down 7% in one day.
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