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May 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #404709equalizerParticipant
[quote=davelj][quote=peterb]It will be interesting to see if the welfare is really cut or not. And what ramifications would come from it? Perhaps a rise in the crime rate? Who knows. CA does not have a sustainable game plan, so it must be changed. People could leave, but where would they go?
It may be a very wise strategy to stay very flexible in these uncertain times. Life in CA may become very nasty for a while.[/quote]“Perhaps a rise in the crime rate?” I don’t know about this. I’m betting there are cities all over Mexico – just to use our neighbor to the south as an example – where the population is far poorer than San Diego’s – even adjusting for welfare cuts – that don’t have the sort of crime problems you’re envisioning. Sure, there might be some modest uptick, but I don’t foresee a Death Wish scenario where I can’t walk outside without four folks trying to mug me in four separate incidences over two hours (man, that guy was unlucky).[/quote]
have you gone to the other states? because police, fire, and teacher salaries are lower in other states, crime is rampant, cities are burning and colleges are closing. thats another reason everyone wants to live in ca.May 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #404954equalizerParticipant[quote=davelj][quote=peterb]It will be interesting to see if the welfare is really cut or not. And what ramifications would come from it? Perhaps a rise in the crime rate? Who knows. CA does not have a sustainable game plan, so it must be changed. People could leave, but where would they go?
It may be a very wise strategy to stay very flexible in these uncertain times. Life in CA may become very nasty for a while.[/quote]“Perhaps a rise in the crime rate?” I don’t know about this. I’m betting there are cities all over Mexico – just to use our neighbor to the south as an example – where the population is far poorer than San Diego’s – even adjusting for welfare cuts – that don’t have the sort of crime problems you’re envisioning. Sure, there might be some modest uptick, but I don’t foresee a Death Wish scenario where I can’t walk outside without four folks trying to mug me in four separate incidences over two hours (man, that guy was unlucky).[/quote]
have you gone to the other states? because police, fire, and teacher salaries are lower in other states, crime is rampant, cities are burning and colleges are closing. thats another reason everyone wants to live in ca.May 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405192equalizerParticipant[quote=davelj][quote=peterb]It will be interesting to see if the welfare is really cut or not. And what ramifications would come from it? Perhaps a rise in the crime rate? Who knows. CA does not have a sustainable game plan, so it must be changed. People could leave, but where would they go?
It may be a very wise strategy to stay very flexible in these uncertain times. Life in CA may become very nasty for a while.[/quote]“Perhaps a rise in the crime rate?” I don’t know about this. I’m betting there are cities all over Mexico – just to use our neighbor to the south as an example – where the population is far poorer than San Diego’s – even adjusting for welfare cuts – that don’t have the sort of crime problems you’re envisioning. Sure, there might be some modest uptick, but I don’t foresee a Death Wish scenario where I can’t walk outside without four folks trying to mug me in four separate incidences over two hours (man, that guy was unlucky).[/quote]
have you gone to the other states? because police, fire, and teacher salaries are lower in other states, crime is rampant, cities are burning and colleges are closing. thats another reason everyone wants to live in ca.May 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405254equalizerParticipant[quote=davelj][quote=peterb]It will be interesting to see if the welfare is really cut or not. And what ramifications would come from it? Perhaps a rise in the crime rate? Who knows. CA does not have a sustainable game plan, so it must be changed. People could leave, but where would they go?
It may be a very wise strategy to stay very flexible in these uncertain times. Life in CA may become very nasty for a while.[/quote]“Perhaps a rise in the crime rate?” I don’t know about this. I’m betting there are cities all over Mexico – just to use our neighbor to the south as an example – where the population is far poorer than San Diego’s – even adjusting for welfare cuts – that don’t have the sort of crime problems you’re envisioning. Sure, there might be some modest uptick, but I don’t foresee a Death Wish scenario where I can’t walk outside without four folks trying to mug me in four separate incidences over two hours (man, that guy was unlucky).[/quote]
have you gone to the other states? because police, fire, and teacher salaries are lower in other states, crime is rampant, cities are burning and colleges are closing. thats another reason everyone wants to live in ca.May 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405398equalizerParticipant[quote=davelj][quote=peterb]It will be interesting to see if the welfare is really cut or not. And what ramifications would come from it? Perhaps a rise in the crime rate? Who knows. CA does not have a sustainable game plan, so it must be changed. People could leave, but where would they go?
It may be a very wise strategy to stay very flexible in these uncertain times. Life in CA may become very nasty for a while.[/quote]“Perhaps a rise in the crime rate?” I don’t know about this. I’m betting there are cities all over Mexico – just to use our neighbor to the south as an example – where the population is far poorer than San Diego’s – even adjusting for welfare cuts – that don’t have the sort of crime problems you’re envisioning. Sure, there might be some modest uptick, but I don’t foresee a Death Wish scenario where I can’t walk outside without four folks trying to mug me in four separate incidences over two hours (man, that guy was unlucky).[/quote]
have you gone to the other states? because police, fire, and teacher salaries are lower in other states, crime is rampant, cities are burning and colleges are closing. thats another reason everyone wants to live in ca.May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #404704equalizerParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Veritas: Self-deport. I like it. The fact is, as a state and a nation, we’ve gotten used to not having to make hard decisions and not having to sacrifice.
Now, the bill has come due and we’re facing hard decisions and sacrifice and no one wants to hear this or be forced to do what is necessary.
This is wrenching change and it’s going to happen whether we want it or not.[/quote]
back to housing, studies show that a home can be an albatross that prevents people from moving to other locales with “better” opportunities. cant sell, cant move. once again tax policy ruins the day.May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #404949equalizerParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Veritas: Self-deport. I like it. The fact is, as a state and a nation, we’ve gotten used to not having to make hard decisions and not having to sacrifice.
Now, the bill has come due and we’re facing hard decisions and sacrifice and no one wants to hear this or be forced to do what is necessary.
This is wrenching change and it’s going to happen whether we want it or not.[/quote]
back to housing, studies show that a home can be an albatross that prevents people from moving to other locales with “better” opportunities. cant sell, cant move. once again tax policy ruins the day.May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405187equalizerParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Veritas: Self-deport. I like it. The fact is, as a state and a nation, we’ve gotten used to not having to make hard decisions and not having to sacrifice.
Now, the bill has come due and we’re facing hard decisions and sacrifice and no one wants to hear this or be forced to do what is necessary.
This is wrenching change and it’s going to happen whether we want it or not.[/quote]
back to housing, studies show that a home can be an albatross that prevents people from moving to other locales with “better” opportunities. cant sell, cant move. once again tax policy ruins the day.May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405248equalizerParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Veritas: Self-deport. I like it. The fact is, as a state and a nation, we’ve gotten used to not having to make hard decisions and not having to sacrifice.
Now, the bill has come due and we’re facing hard decisions and sacrifice and no one wants to hear this or be forced to do what is necessary.
This is wrenching change and it’s going to happen whether we want it or not.[/quote]
back to housing, studies show that a home can be an albatross that prevents people from moving to other locales with “better” opportunities. cant sell, cant move. once again tax policy ruins the day.May 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405393equalizerParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Veritas: Self-deport. I like it. The fact is, as a state and a nation, we’ve gotten used to not having to make hard decisions and not having to sacrifice.
Now, the bill has come due and we’re facing hard decisions and sacrifice and no one wants to hear this or be forced to do what is necessary.
This is wrenching change and it’s going to happen whether we want it or not.[/quote]
back to housing, studies show that a home can be an albatross that prevents people from moving to other locales with “better” opportunities. cant sell, cant move. once again tax policy ruins the day.May 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #404692equalizerParticipantthank tg, the gov is listening.
who predicted that guns and ammo would be best asset class this year. better run to the store before they run out. secuity system sales may be good temp job for jobless.May 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #404938equalizerParticipantthank tg, the gov is listening.
who predicted that guns and ammo would be best asset class this year. better run to the store before they run out. secuity system sales may be good temp job for jobless.May 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405176equalizerParticipantthank tg, the gov is listening.
who predicted that guns and ammo would be best asset class this year. better run to the store before they run out. secuity system sales may be good temp job for jobless.May 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405236equalizerParticipantthank tg, the gov is listening.
who predicted that guns and ammo would be best asset class this year. better run to the store before they run out. secuity system sales may be good temp job for jobless. -
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