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[quote=Eugene][quote=KSMountain]Oh Eugene, why do you have to ruin everything with the facts?[/quote]

Okay, okay, I’ll shut up …[/quote]
Lighten up Francis.
I was looking for creative uses, not that boring rocket science.

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Here’s a link to a professional Mechanical Engineer who studies this issue

http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html

“A Different Problem: Stuck Throttles
A stuck throttle event may be termed a “sudden acceleration” by someone who experiences it, but it is, in fact, a very different problem. This phenomenon arises after the operator depresses the throttle pedal and releases it, but the throttle remains engaged to some degree. I have found throttles which failed to release fully for the following reasons at one time or another:

* deep-pile floor mats that hooked the pedal
* worn carb shot-pump barrel
* chafed housing that caused the inner cable to rust/stop moving smoothly
* pieces of debris that jammed the throttle plate open
* a misassembled airbox gasket that got sucked in and jammed the butterfly

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Here’s a link to a professional Mechanical Engineer who studies this issue

http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html

“A Different Problem: Stuck Throttles
A stuck throttle event may be termed a “sudden acceleration” by someone who experiences it, but it is, in fact, a very different problem. This phenomenon arises after the operator depresses the throttle pedal and releases it, but the throttle remains engaged to some degree. I have found throttles which failed to release fully for the following reasons at one time or another:

* deep-pile floor mats that hooked the pedal
* worn carb shot-pump barrel
* chafed housing that caused the inner cable to rust/stop moving smoothly
* pieces of debris that jammed the throttle plate open
* a misassembled airbox gasket that got sucked in and jammed the butterfly

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Here’s a link to a professional Mechanical Engineer who studies this issue

http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html

“A Different Problem: Stuck Throttles
A stuck throttle event may be termed a “sudden acceleration” by someone who experiences it, but it is, in fact, a very different problem. This phenomenon arises after the operator depresses the throttle pedal and releases it, but the throttle remains engaged to some degree. I have found throttles which failed to release fully for the following reasons at one time or another:

* deep-pile floor mats that hooked the pedal
* worn carb shot-pump barrel
* chafed housing that caused the inner cable to rust/stop moving smoothly
* pieces of debris that jammed the throttle plate open
* a misassembled airbox gasket that got sucked in and jammed the butterfly

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Here’s a link to a professional Mechanical Engineer who studies this issue

http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html

“A Different Problem: Stuck Throttles
A stuck throttle event may be termed a “sudden acceleration” by someone who experiences it, but it is, in fact, a very different problem. This phenomenon arises after the operator depresses the throttle pedal and releases it, but the throttle remains engaged to some degree. I have found throttles which failed to release fully for the following reasons at one time or another:

* deep-pile floor mats that hooked the pedal
* worn carb shot-pump barrel
* chafed housing that caused the inner cable to rust/stop moving smoothly
* pieces of debris that jammed the throttle plate open
* a misassembled airbox gasket that got sucked in and jammed the butterfly

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Here’s a link to a professional Mechanical Engineer who studies this issue

http://mfes.com/suddenaccel.html

“A Different Problem: Stuck Throttles
A stuck throttle event may be termed a “sudden acceleration” by someone who experiences it, but it is, in fact, a very different problem. This phenomenon arises after the operator depresses the throttle pedal and releases it, but the throttle remains engaged to some degree. I have found throttles which failed to release fully for the following reasons at one time or another:

* deep-pile floor mats that hooked the pedal
* worn carb shot-pump barrel
* chafed housing that caused the inner cable to rust/stop moving smoothly
* pieces of debris that jammed the throttle plate open
* a misassembled airbox gasket that got sucked in and jammed the butterfly

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[quote=jamsvet]You just can’t tell me that he wasn’t pressing down on the accelerator rather than the gas pedal. I drove an Audi and it happened to me. I could have sworn that I was on the brake but I was really on the gas. Luckily I figured out the problem in time.

No modern car can overcome the brakes. It’s just that simple. Don’t believe it? try it.

Even though he was a CHP officer, they are not gods. I am saddened by his and his families demise, but anyone can make a fatal error.

I don’t think that we will ever know the true reason for the crash, maybe that’s why they call them accidents.[/quote]
If the pedals are not indistinguishable, then why isn’t it a design flaw? Are the pedals in the Audi too close to each other or is the brake pedal too small? Are the Lexus mat holders or all-weather mats susceptible to operator error? If so, then it is a prima facie design error.

Lexus pedals aren’t too small or too close to each other. If mats are the cause, then bolt the damn things to the floor.

Audis-
“And the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration embarked on a lengthy investigation. The agency concluded that because the Audi’s accelerator and brake pedals were placed close together, inattentive drivers were confusing the two by pressing the accelerator when they intended to brake. Europeans, it should be noted, recorded no such incidents.”

American car drivers are used to large brake pedals. Import makers should design cars around customers needs and expectations.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration

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[quote=jamsvet]You just can’t tell me that he wasn’t pressing down on the accelerator rather than the gas pedal. I drove an Audi and it happened to me. I could have sworn that I was on the brake but I was really on the gas. Luckily I figured out the problem in time.

No modern car can overcome the brakes. It’s just that simple. Don’t believe it? try it.

Even though he was a CHP officer, they are not gods. I am saddened by his and his families demise, but anyone can make a fatal error.

I don’t think that we will ever know the true reason for the crash, maybe that’s why they call them accidents.[/quote]
If the pedals are not indistinguishable, then why isn’t it a design flaw? Are the pedals in the Audi too close to each other or is the brake pedal too small? Are the Lexus mat holders or all-weather mats susceptible to operator error? If so, then it is a prima facie design error.

Lexus pedals aren’t too small or too close to each other. If mats are the cause, then bolt the damn things to the floor.

Audis-
“And the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration embarked on a lengthy investigation. The agency concluded that because the Audi’s accelerator and brake pedals were placed close together, inattentive drivers were confusing the two by pressing the accelerator when they intended to brake. Europeans, it should be noted, recorded no such incidents.”

American car drivers are used to large brake pedals. Import makers should design cars around customers needs and expectations.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration

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[quote=jamsvet]You just can’t tell me that he wasn’t pressing down on the accelerator rather than the gas pedal. I drove an Audi and it happened to me. I could have sworn that I was on the brake but I was really on the gas. Luckily I figured out the problem in time.

No modern car can overcome the brakes. It’s just that simple. Don’t believe it? try it.

Even though he was a CHP officer, they are not gods. I am saddened by his and his families demise, but anyone can make a fatal error.

I don’t think that we will ever know the true reason for the crash, maybe that’s why they call them accidents.[/quote]
If the pedals are not indistinguishable, then why isn’t it a design flaw? Are the pedals in the Audi too close to each other or is the brake pedal too small? Are the Lexus mat holders or all-weather mats susceptible to operator error? If so, then it is a prima facie design error.

Lexus pedals aren’t too small or too close to each other. If mats are the cause, then bolt the damn things to the floor.

Audis-
“And the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration embarked on a lengthy investigation. The agency concluded that because the Audi’s accelerator and brake pedals were placed close together, inattentive drivers were confusing the two by pressing the accelerator when they intended to brake. Europeans, it should be noted, recorded no such incidents.”

American car drivers are used to large brake pedals. Import makers should design cars around customers needs and expectations.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration

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[quote=jamsvet]You just can’t tell me that he wasn’t pressing down on the accelerator rather than the gas pedal. I drove an Audi and it happened to me. I could have sworn that I was on the brake but I was really on the gas. Luckily I figured out the problem in time.

No modern car can overcome the brakes. It’s just that simple. Don’t believe it? try it.

Even though he was a CHP officer, they are not gods. I am saddened by his and his families demise, but anyone can make a fatal error.

I don’t think that we will ever know the true reason for the crash, maybe that’s why they call them accidents.[/quote]
If the pedals are not indistinguishable, then why isn’t it a design flaw? Are the pedals in the Audi too close to each other or is the brake pedal too small? Are the Lexus mat holders or all-weather mats susceptible to operator error? If so, then it is a prima facie design error.

Lexus pedals aren’t too small or too close to each other. If mats are the cause, then bolt the damn things to the floor.

Audis-
“And the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration embarked on a lengthy investigation. The agency concluded that because the Audi’s accelerator and brake pedals were placed close together, inattentive drivers were confusing the two by pressing the accelerator when they intended to brake. Europeans, it should be noted, recorded no such incidents.”

American car drivers are used to large brake pedals. Import makers should design cars around customers needs and expectations.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration

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[quote=jamsvet]You just can’t tell me that he wasn’t pressing down on the accelerator rather than the gas pedal. I drove an Audi and it happened to me. I could have sworn that I was on the brake but I was really on the gas. Luckily I figured out the problem in time.

No modern car can overcome the brakes. It’s just that simple. Don’t believe it? try it.

Even though he was a CHP officer, they are not gods. I am saddened by his and his families demise, but anyone can make a fatal error.

I don’t think that we will ever know the true reason for the crash, maybe that’s why they call them accidents.[/quote]
If the pedals are not indistinguishable, then why isn’t it a design flaw? Are the pedals in the Audi too close to each other or is the brake pedal too small? Are the Lexus mat holders or all-weather mats susceptible to operator error? If so, then it is a prima facie design error.

Lexus pedals aren’t too small or too close to each other. If mats are the cause, then bolt the damn things to the floor.

Audis-
“And the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration embarked on a lengthy investigation. The agency concluded that because the Audi’s accelerator and brake pedals were placed close together, inattentive drivers were confusing the two by pressing the accelerator when they intended to brake. Europeans, it should be noted, recorded no such incidents.”

American car drivers are used to large brake pedals. Import makers should design cars around customers needs and expectations.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1020726_a-short-sad-history-of-so-called-sudden-acceleration

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[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]
This new thing about giving package deals with wireless internet and cell phone, the whole free netbook thing as well.[/quote]

The unfortunate thing is that some people are actually reading contracts now! That free netbook, which retails for $300, will cost over $1600 with reqd data package for 2 years, not including 20% taxes and fees.

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[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]
This new thing about giving package deals with wireless internet and cell phone, the whole free netbook thing as well.[/quote]

The unfortunate thing is that some people are actually reading contracts now! That free netbook, which retails for $300, will cost over $1600 with reqd data package for 2 years, not including 20% taxes and fees.

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[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]
This new thing about giving package deals with wireless internet and cell phone, the whole free netbook thing as well.[/quote]

The unfortunate thing is that some people are actually reading contracts now! That free netbook, which retails for $300, will cost over $1600 with reqd data package for 2 years, not including 20% taxes and fees.

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[quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]
This new thing about giving package deals with wireless internet and cell phone, the whole free netbook thing as well.[/quote]

The unfortunate thing is that some people are actually reading contracts now! That free netbook, which retails for $300, will cost over $1600 with reqd data package for 2 years, not including 20% taxes and fees.

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