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FLU,

Where you getting Honda info? See below.

BTW, that Honda at 90mph+, where did you get that info? I heard they were drunk and there were racing decal on the card. Ban those honda now for males<30 if you care about them.

By Associated Press Monday, May 05, 2008 - 03:17 PM

TORRANCE, Calif. (AP) -- American Honda said today its April U.S. auto sales rose as higher demand for the automaker's small cars offset a drop in sales of light trucks.

Honda sold 135,180 vehicles in April, up 6.9 percent from 126,419 in April 2007.

Car sales jumped 16 percent as demand for the Accord rose 19.7 percent and sales of the Civic rose 17.2 percent.

Sales of light trucks fell 4.8 percent as demand for the Alabama-built Pilot dropped 30.9 percent and sales of the Element fell 14.9 percent.

So far this year, Honda sales are up 1.5 percent from the same period of 2007.

Honda's U.S. shares fell 13 cents to $32.97 in midday trading.

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DWCAP,

I posted earlier about flaws in IIHS fatality data that they admit; namely that data is not normalized for all demographics. About 60-70% of deaths are caused by male drivers, most of them young, probably drinking/speeding,etc.
If we banned all Hondas (great idea) for males under 30 and forced them into Expeditions or 750iLs would total death rates go down? Vast majority of big vehicles driven by females(minvans), they are richer and older than average drivers (>35). So is it the car or the driver? How but both.

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DWCAP,

I posted earlier about flaws in IIHS fatality data that they admit; namely that data is not normalized for all demographics. About 60-70% of deaths are caused by male drivers, most of them young, probably drinking/speeding,etc.
If we banned all Hondas (great idea) for males under 30 and forced them into Expeditions or 750iLs would total death rates go down? Vast majority of big vehicles driven by females(minvans), they are richer and older than average drivers (>35). So is it the car or the driver? How but both.

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DWCAP,

I posted earlier about flaws in IIHS fatality data that they admit; namely that data is not normalized for all demographics. About 60-70% of deaths are caused by male drivers, most of them young, probably drinking/speeding,etc.
If we banned all Hondas (great idea) for males under 30 and forced them into Expeditions or 750iLs would total death rates go down? Vast majority of big vehicles driven by females(minvans), they are richer and older than average drivers (>35). So is it the car or the driver? How but both.

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DWCAP,

I posted earlier about flaws in IIHS fatality data that they admit; namely that data is not normalized for all demographics. About 60-70% of deaths are caused by male drivers, most of them young, probably drinking/speeding,etc.
If we banned all Hondas (great idea) for males under 30 and forced them into Expeditions or 750iLs would total death rates go down? Vast majority of big vehicles driven by females(minvans), they are richer and older than average drivers (>35). So is it the car or the driver? How but both.

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DWCAP,

I posted earlier about flaws in IIHS fatality data that they admit; namely that data is not normalized for all demographics. About 60-70% of deaths are caused by male drivers, most of them young, probably drinking/speeding,etc.
If we banned all Hondas (great idea) for males under 30 and forced them into Expeditions or 750iLs would total death rates go down? Vast majority of big vehicles driven by females(minvans), they are richer and older than average drivers (>35). So is it the car or the driver? How but both.

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The article is really good, except it doesnt really apply to CA, FL, NV, AZ where the ratios went from 19% to 29% to over 50% and are still way above peak. Carmel Valley prices are still going up.

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The article is really good, except it doesnt really apply to CA, FL, NV, AZ where the ratios went from 19% to 29% to over 50% and are still way above peak. Carmel Valley prices are still going up.

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The article is really good, except it doesnt really apply to CA, FL, NV, AZ where the ratios went from 19% to 29% to over 50% and are still way above peak. Carmel Valley prices are still going up.

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The article is really good, except it doesnt really apply to CA, FL, NV, AZ where the ratios went from 19% to 29% to over 50% and are still way above peak. Carmel Valley prices are still going up.

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The article is really good, except it doesnt really apply to CA, FL, NV, AZ where the ratios went from 19% to 29% to over 50% and are still way above peak. Carmel Valley prices are still going up.

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Nobody here is going to trust a lobbying group funded by neocons to preach SUV safety. So I will point to THE definitive guide in auto safety – the IIHS.

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality_facts_2006/occupants.html#sec3

Note:
Seventy-one percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were drivers; 70 percent of these drivers were males. Thirty-three percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were younger than 25 and 12% were >70. Mmm, men drive bigger cars and yet 70% of deaths.

Occupant deaths per million registered passenger vehicles 1-3 years old, 1978-2006 pickup are worse than cars or suvs. No surprise since pickups have worst safety eqpmt.

Fatality rates by vehicle: http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4204.pdf

Note that Excursions have very high roller deaths.

Safest are minivans, larger suvs and luxury cars per million registered vehicles. Authors state they have attempted to normalize for females drivers, but not for other demographics. Not normalized for miles driven, bet the bigger SUVs, etc are driven less and by older drivers. So 750iL is among the safest, but those stupid liberal males cant afford them!! HA, HA!

The risk of dying in a crash at night is nearly three times the risk of dying in daylight hours. In 1998, about 27,000 people died in nighttime traffic crashes in the United States, even though only about 25 percent of travel is at night. http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmej/0109/rm010902.htm

So heres the lessons to be safe, let the females drive (>21, <65), dont drive at night, drive in a SUV limo. We neocons laugh at those stupid libs getting back from their quickmart jobs in their yugos, less taxes for us when they roll aside.

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Nobody here is going to trust a lobbying group funded by neocons to preach SUV safety. So I will point to THE definitive guide in auto safety – the IIHS.

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality_facts_2006/occupants.html#sec3

Note:
Seventy-one percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were drivers; 70 percent of these drivers were males. Thirty-three percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were younger than 25 and 12% were >70. Mmm, men drive bigger cars and yet 70% of deaths.

Occupant deaths per million registered passenger vehicles 1-3 years old, 1978-2006 pickup are worse than cars or suvs. No surprise since pickups have worst safety eqpmt.

Fatality rates by vehicle: http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4204.pdf

Note that Excursions have very high roller deaths.

Safest are minivans, larger suvs and luxury cars per million registered vehicles. Authors state they have attempted to normalize for females drivers, but not for other demographics. Not normalized for miles driven, bet the bigger SUVs, etc are driven less and by older drivers. So 750iL is among the safest, but those stupid liberal males cant afford them!! HA, HA!

The risk of dying in a crash at night is nearly three times the risk of dying in daylight hours. In 1998, about 27,000 people died in nighttime traffic crashes in the United States, even though only about 25 percent of travel is at night. http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmej/0109/rm010902.htm

So heres the lessons to be safe, let the females drive (>21, <65), dont drive at night, drive in a SUV limo. We neocons laugh at those stupid libs getting back from their quickmart jobs in their yugos, less taxes for us when they roll aside.

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Nobody here is going to trust a lobbying group funded by neocons to preach SUV safety. So I will point to THE definitive guide in auto safety – the IIHS.

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality_facts_2006/occupants.html#sec3

Note:
Seventy-one percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were drivers; 70 percent of these drivers were males. Thirty-three percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were younger than 25 and 12% were >70. Mmm, men drive bigger cars and yet 70% of deaths.

Occupant deaths per million registered passenger vehicles 1-3 years old, 1978-2006 pickup are worse than cars or suvs. No surprise since pickups have worst safety eqpmt.

Fatality rates by vehicle: http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4204.pdf

Note that Excursions have very high roller deaths.

Safest are minivans, larger suvs and luxury cars per million registered vehicles. Authors state they have attempted to normalize for females drivers, but not for other demographics. Not normalized for miles driven, bet the bigger SUVs, etc are driven less and by older drivers. So 750iL is among the safest, but those stupid liberal males cant afford them!! HA, HA!

The risk of dying in a crash at night is nearly three times the risk of dying in daylight hours. In 1998, about 27,000 people died in nighttime traffic crashes in the United States, even though only about 25 percent of travel is at night. http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmej/0109/rm010902.htm

So heres the lessons to be safe, let the females drive (>21, <65), dont drive at night, drive in a SUV limo. We neocons laugh at those stupid libs getting back from their quickmart jobs in their yugos, less taxes for us when they roll aside.

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Nobody here is going to trust a lobbying group funded by neocons to preach SUV safety. So I will point to THE definitive guide in auto safety – the IIHS.

http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality_facts_2006/occupants.html#sec3

Note:
Seventy-one percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were drivers; 70 percent of these drivers were males. Thirty-three percent of passenger vehicle occupants killed in 2006 were younger than 25 and 12% were >70. Mmm, men drive bigger cars and yet 70% of deaths.

Occupant deaths per million registered passenger vehicles 1-3 years old, 1978-2006 pickup are worse than cars or suvs. No surprise since pickups have worst safety eqpmt.

Fatality rates by vehicle: http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr4204.pdf

Note that Excursions have very high roller deaths.

Safest are minivans, larger suvs and luxury cars per million registered vehicles. Authors state they have attempted to normalize for females drivers, but not for other demographics. Not normalized for miles driven, bet the bigger SUVs, etc are driven less and by older drivers. So 750iL is among the safest, but those stupid liberal males cant afford them!! HA, HA!

The risk of dying in a crash at night is nearly three times the risk of dying in daylight hours. In 1998, about 27,000 people died in nighttime traffic crashes in the United States, even though only about 25 percent of travel is at night. http://www.usroads.com/journals/rmej/0109/rm010902.htm

So heres the lessons to be safe, let the females drive (>21, <65), dont drive at night, drive in a SUV limo. We neocons laugh at those stupid libs getting back from their quickmart jobs in their yugos, less taxes for us when they roll aside.

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