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Here is reality as how I see it.

There are many organized groups in the USA who are using the system to fleece the taxpayer. The main ones are : Finance sector, govt. contractors, Unions, welfare folks and illegal immigrants.

Every time you complain about one of them, they will point their fingers at the other groups, claiming that the problems are because of the other groups and they themselves are second incarnation of Christ. This is how the game is played by distracting people!!!

But in reality everyone is just trying to protect their own interests and what they have. That’s fine and understandable! However, a taxpayer like me, who does not belong to any of the above groups, has to protect my interests too!! I don’t have any sympathy for any of the above groups because when was the last time they put my interests before their own?

So telling me that finance/illegal/welfare/business guys are from Mars and unions are from Venus does not really fly with me. It is just a age old game to distract attention.

[quote=CA renter]We’ll have to agree to disagree about unions causing this mess. I stand firmly by my assertion that we would not be in this mess if the financial sector were better regulated, and if Gray Davis’ pension boost never passed.

I’ll also add that we would have a much smaller budget problem (perhaps no budget problem) in California if someone would finally have the cojones to fix the illegal immigration problem. We could probably have gotten along with only 60-70% of the number of current public employees if we didn’t have illegal immigration.[/quote]

[enron_by_the_sea]

Here is reality as how I see it.

There are many organized groups in the USA who are using the system to fleece the taxpayer. The main ones are : Finance sector, govt. contractors, Unions, welfare folks and illegal immigrants.

Every time you complain about one of them, they will point their fingers at the other groups, claiming that the problems are because of the other groups and they themselves are second incarnation of Christ. This is how the game is played by distracting people!!!

But in reality everyone is just trying to protect their own interests and what they have. That’s fine and understandable! However, a taxpayer like me, who does not belong to any of the above groups, has to protect my interests too!! I don’t have any sympathy for any of the above groups because when was the last time they put my interests before their own?

So telling me that finance/illegal/welfare/business guys are from Mars and unions are from Venus does not really fly with me. It is just a age old game to distract attention.

[quote=CA renter]We’ll have to agree to disagree about unions causing this mess. I stand firmly by my assertion that we would not be in this mess if the financial sector were better regulated, and if Gray Davis’ pension boost never passed.

I’ll also add that we would have a much smaller budget problem (perhaps no budget problem) in California if someone would finally have the cojones to fix the illegal immigration problem. We could probably have gotten along with only 60-70% of the number of current public employees if we didn’t have illegal immigration.[/quote]

[enron_by_the_sea]

Here is reality as how I see it.

There are many organized groups in the USA who are using the system to fleece the taxpayer. The main ones are : Finance sector, govt. contractors, Unions, welfare folks and illegal immigrants.

Every time you complain about one of them, they will point their fingers at the other groups, claiming that the problems are because of the other groups and they themselves are second incarnation of Christ. This is how the game is played by distracting people!!!

But in reality everyone is just trying to protect their own interests and what they have. That’s fine and understandable! However, a taxpayer like me, who does not belong to any of the above groups, has to protect my interests too!! I don’t have any sympathy for any of the above groups because when was the last time they put my interests before their own?

So telling me that finance/illegal/welfare/business guys are from Mars and unions are from Venus does not really fly with me. It is just a age old game to distract attention.

[quote=CA renter]We’ll have to agree to disagree about unions causing this mess. I stand firmly by my assertion that we would not be in this mess if the financial sector were better regulated, and if Gray Davis’ pension boost never passed.

I’ll also add that we would have a much smaller budget problem (perhaps no budget problem) in California if someone would finally have the cojones to fix the illegal immigration problem. We could probably have gotten along with only 60-70% of the number of current public employees if we didn’t have illegal immigration.[/quote]

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[quote=CA renter][
Most of the public workers I know never fought for the pension boost, and found it rather surprising when it went through (a bit like an unexpected Christmas gift — a Ferrari, perhaps).
[/quote]

Well then they should certainly have no problem if those phantom promises were scaled back to something that this state can actually afford in this day and age.

If my private employer screwed up with his financial planning, my pay can be cut, my pension can be gone, my 401k match can be dropped and worse I can lose my job (even though my employer and finance sector screwed up, not me.) Why should public sector be any different? World is unfair, get used to it.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=CA renter][
Most of the public workers I know never fought for the pension boost, and found it rather surprising when it went through (a bit like an unexpected Christmas gift — a Ferrari, perhaps).
[/quote]

Well then they should certainly have no problem if those phantom promises were scaled back to something that this state can actually afford in this day and age.

If my private employer screwed up with his financial planning, my pay can be cut, my pension can be gone, my 401k match can be dropped and worse I can lose my job (even though my employer and finance sector screwed up, not me.) Why should public sector be any different? World is unfair, get used to it.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=CA renter][
Most of the public workers I know never fought for the pension boost, and found it rather surprising when it went through (a bit like an unexpected Christmas gift — a Ferrari, perhaps).
[/quote]

Well then they should certainly have no problem if those phantom promises were scaled back to something that this state can actually afford in this day and age.

If my private employer screwed up with his financial planning, my pay can be cut, my pension can be gone, my 401k match can be dropped and worse I can lose my job (even though my employer and finance sector screwed up, not me.) Why should public sector be any different? World is unfair, get used to it.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=CA renter][
Most of the public workers I know never fought for the pension boost, and found it rather surprising when it went through (a bit like an unexpected Christmas gift — a Ferrari, perhaps).
[/quote]

Well then they should certainly have no problem if those phantom promises were scaled back to something that this state can actually afford in this day and age.

If my private employer screwed up with his financial planning, my pay can be cut, my pension can be gone, my 401k match can be dropped and worse I can lose my job (even though my employer and finance sector screwed up, not me.) Why should public sector be any different? World is unfair, get used to it.

[enron_by_the_sea]

[quote=CA renter][
Most of the public workers I know never fought for the pension boost, and found it rather surprising when it went through (a bit like an unexpected Christmas gift — a Ferrari, perhaps).
[/quote]

Well then they should certainly have no problem if those phantom promises were scaled back to something that this state can actually afford in this day and age.

If my private employer screwed up with his financial planning, my pay can be cut, my pension can be gone, my 401k match can be dropped and worse I can lose my job (even though my employer and finance sector screwed up, not me.) Why should public sector be any different? World is unfair, get used to it.

[enron_by_the_sea]

I am not a looser but I loose my sanity when people loosely co-mingle loose with lose.

[enron_by_the_sea]

I am not a looser but I loose my sanity when people loosely co-mingle loose with lose.

[enron_by_the_sea]

I am not a looser but I loose my sanity when people loosely co-mingle loose with lose.

[enron_by_the_sea]

I am not a looser but I loose my sanity when people loosely co-mingle loose with lose.

[enron_by_the_sea]

I am not a looser but I loose my sanity when people loosely co-mingle loose with lose.

[enron_by_the_sea]

Remember the much maligned Greenspan recommendation to homeowners to go for an ARM

[enron_by_the_sea]

Remember the much maligned Greenspan recommendation to homeowners to go for an ARM

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