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Participantdon’t want to get into this..
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ParticipantI am sure critical thinking is a good thing to have. I am questioning if critical thinking is worth 200K of student loans for most people.
If your eventual major is engineering,medicine,finance,law etc. in a brand-name university, one can make an argument that a few hundred K of student loans are still worth it.
For everyone else who will only have “critical thinking” to show for after the college, is the education worth the student loans? Is it better to go to community colleges, stay home and then transfer to a state college in this case?
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantI am sure critical thinking is a good thing to have. I am questioning if critical thinking is worth 200K of student loans for most people.
If your eventual major is engineering,medicine,finance,law etc. in a brand-name university, one can make an argument that a few hundred K of student loans are still worth it.
For everyone else who will only have “critical thinking” to show for after the college, is the education worth the student loans? Is it better to go to community colleges, stay home and then transfer to a state college in this case?
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantI am sure critical thinking is a good thing to have. I am questioning if critical thinking is worth 200K of student loans for most people.
If your eventual major is engineering,medicine,finance,law etc. in a brand-name university, one can make an argument that a few hundred K of student loans are still worth it.
For everyone else who will only have “critical thinking” to show for after the college, is the education worth the student loans? Is it better to go to community colleges, stay home and then transfer to a state college in this case?
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantI am sure critical thinking is a good thing to have. I am questioning if critical thinking is worth 200K of student loans for most people.
If your eventual major is engineering,medicine,finance,law etc. in a brand-name university, one can make an argument that a few hundred K of student loans are still worth it.
For everyone else who will only have “critical thinking” to show for after the college, is the education worth the student loans? Is it better to go to community colleges, stay home and then transfer to a state college in this case?
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantI am sure critical thinking is a good thing to have. I am questioning if critical thinking is worth 200K of student loans for most people.
If your eventual major is engineering,medicine,finance,law etc. in a brand-name university, one can make an argument that a few hundred K of student loans are still worth it.
For everyone else who will only have “critical thinking” to show for after the college, is the education worth the student loans? Is it better to go to community colleges, stay home and then transfer to a state college in this case?
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
enron_by_the_sea
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]The world definitely shifted about 30 years ago to placing much greater value on a college degree at a minimum and advanced degrees are often the entry card to success. Yes there are and always will be those without out higher education who succeed against the odds. But those cases get fewer and fewer. Even those with college degrees must commit to lifelong education. If you dont, you are not in the game and have to deal with what comes your way.
[/quote]Agreed but with some reservation. Kids can not expect any better life with a college degree if “college” is something like University of Pheonix and /or “degree” is in sociology, psychology etc. If that is what one wants to do, it is better to not take up all those student loans.
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ParticipantMy observation is opposite.
For retail, last 2 years were very bad and things are slowly improving now. I am actually now noticing that many vacancies are going away with new stores moving in places which were lying vacant for one or two years.
There is still a long way to go before all the malls fill up though…
For offices though things might be different. I don’t see those “for lease” signs going away and for some reason they still keep on building office towers in the city.
enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantMy observation is opposite.
For retail, last 2 years were very bad and things are slowly improving now. I am actually now noticing that many vacancies are going away with new stores moving in places which were lying vacant for one or two years.
There is still a long way to go before all the malls fill up though…
For offices though things might be different. I don’t see those “for lease” signs going away and for some reason they still keep on building office towers in the city.
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