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Participant[quote=Rich Toscano][quote=jficquette]High gas prices only mattered when Bush was in office. Ok now with Obama.[/quote]
http://piggington.com/threadjackers_will_be_persecuted_maybe_even_prosecuted%5B/quote%5D
Thank you, Rich!!!
No, they matter ALL THE TIME! And that’s how we should ALL be thinking. They matter a great deal. People are having to choose between buying food or driving to their jobs – those that are fortunate enough to have jobs, that is.
Note that the people having to make these choices are of all political persuasions. We are from all parts of the country, we come from different educational and cultural backgrounds, and we are all facing different challenges.
But the one thing that we have in common is that we’re part of a huge middle class that is being negatively affected by economic forces, and we have to find a way to deal with it.
The last thing we need to be doing is splitting into factions and battling each other on stuff like this. It is not only unhelpful, it is destructive. It distracts us from the tasks at hand, and is demoralizing in the process. WE aren’t the enemy.
Cripes! When does it end?!
Participant[quote=briansd1]
My dilemma is which party to support. I can’t possibly vote for Republicans.I agree that Democrats kiss up to big money also. But they don’t blatantly do it the way Republicans do. [/quote]
So what you are saying is that the Democrats are just sneakier about taking “big money”?
Just giving you grief, Brian. I see what you’re trying to say.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
My dilemma is which party to support. I can’t possibly vote for Republicans.I agree that Democrats kiss up to big money also. But they don’t blatantly do it the way Republicans do. [/quote]
So what you are saying is that the Democrats are just sneakier about taking “big money”?
Just giving you grief, Brian. I see what you’re trying to say.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
My dilemma is which party to support. I can’t possibly vote for Republicans.I agree that Democrats kiss up to big money also. But they don’t blatantly do it the way Republicans do. [/quote]
So what you are saying is that the Democrats are just sneakier about taking “big money”?
Just giving you grief, Brian. I see what you’re trying to say.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
My dilemma is which party to support. I can’t possibly vote for Republicans.I agree that Democrats kiss up to big money also. But they don’t blatantly do it the way Republicans do. [/quote]
So what you are saying is that the Democrats are just sneakier about taking “big money”?
Just giving you grief, Brian. I see what you’re trying to say.
Participant[quote=briansd1]
My dilemma is which party to support. I can’t possibly vote for Republicans.I agree that Democrats kiss up to big money also. But they don’t blatantly do it the way Republicans do. [/quote]
So what you are saying is that the Democrats are just sneakier about taking “big money”?
Just giving you grief, Brian. I see what you’re trying to say.
Participant[quote=bsrsharma]How the heck am I going to design that big fat Greek support column?
Well, you should have asked how to design the Golden Gate Bridge , an engineering marvel of its times. Greeks knew very little of what we call today structural engineering and still built those columns; so it is not that difficult to design them!
FYI, Big Fat Greek columns are too fat to buckle and hence fail only by crushing (technically, shear or compression failure). An easy formula to design them would be select a cross sectional area larger than the materials shear or compression strength (times any factor of safety you prefer/ building code requires)[/quote]
I don’t need Khan Academy OR MIT!! I can just come here to Piggs for all my academic needs (Note to self: Check “Building With Big, Fat Greek Columns” off prerequisite list)
Participant[quote=bsrsharma]How the heck am I going to design that big fat Greek support column?
Well, you should have asked how to design the Golden Gate Bridge , an engineering marvel of its times. Greeks knew very little of what we call today structural engineering and still built those columns; so it is not that difficult to design them!
FYI, Big Fat Greek columns are too fat to buckle and hence fail only by crushing (technically, shear or compression failure). An easy formula to design them would be select a cross sectional area larger than the materials shear or compression strength (times any factor of safety you prefer/ building code requires)[/quote]
I don’t need Khan Academy OR MIT!! I can just come here to Piggs for all my academic needs (Note to self: Check “Building With Big, Fat Greek Columns” off prerequisite list)
Participant[quote=bsrsharma]How the heck am I going to design that big fat Greek support column?
Well, you should have asked how to design the Golden Gate Bridge , an engineering marvel of its times. Greeks knew very little of what we call today structural engineering and still built those columns; so it is not that difficult to design them!
FYI, Big Fat Greek columns are too fat to buckle and hence fail only by crushing (technically, shear or compression failure). An easy formula to design them would be select a cross sectional area larger than the materials shear or compression strength (times any factor of safety you prefer/ building code requires)[/quote]
I don’t need Khan Academy OR MIT!! I can just come here to Piggs for all my academic needs (Note to self: Check “Building With Big, Fat Greek Columns” off prerequisite list)
Participant[quote=bsrsharma]How the heck am I going to design that big fat Greek support column?
Well, you should have asked how to design the Golden Gate Bridge , an engineering marvel of its times. Greeks knew very little of what we call today structural engineering and still built those columns; so it is not that difficult to design them!
FYI, Big Fat Greek columns are too fat to buckle and hence fail only by crushing (technically, shear or compression failure). An easy formula to design them would be select a cross sectional area larger than the materials shear or compression strength (times any factor of safety you prefer/ building code requires)[/quote]
I don’t need Khan Academy OR MIT!! I can just come here to Piggs for all my academic needs (Note to self: Check “Building With Big, Fat Greek Columns” off prerequisite list)
Participant[quote=bsrsharma]How the heck am I going to design that big fat Greek support column?
Well, you should have asked how to design the Golden Gate Bridge , an engineering marvel of its times. Greeks knew very little of what we call today structural engineering and still built those columns; so it is not that difficult to design them!
FYI, Big Fat Greek columns are too fat to buckle and hence fail only by crushing (technically, shear or compression failure). An easy formula to design them would be select a cross sectional area larger than the materials shear or compression strength (times any factor of safety you prefer/ building code requires)[/quote]
I don’t need Khan Academy OR MIT!! I can just come here to Piggs for all my academic needs (Note to self: Check “Building With Big, Fat Greek Columns” off prerequisite list)
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Friends just paid a small fortune to have their runaway kid kidnapped and taken to military type school out of state. Sad. When you have kids they’re yours forever.
What about recalcitrant teens? Give em the boot? Juvenile hall? [/quote]
Precisely the problem, scaredy. We fail to spend the time and effort necessary to raise our children properly. They act out. We ignore it, and, instead, buy them a new iPad or a car. They act out in a louder, more destructive way. We still try to ignore it, but the law won’t let us. We then find someone who will handle the problem for us, even if we have to shell out a lot of dough for it.
It’s so much easier to simply keep indulging them or ignoring them. I mean, no one ever told us that we’d have to touch these little creatures, or spend time actually listening to them. I mean, I had a kid to give ME unconditional love.
[quote=walterwhite] If an 18 yo were an adult we’d let her drink booze
[/quote]I’m not endorsing underage drinking, but my feeling is, if our country is willing to send an 18 year-old off to die in a war, they should also give him or her the right to walk into a bar and buy a drink. Just my opinion.
Anyway, what’s the difference? We give them cell phones, so that they can kill people while they text and drive. Why not booze?
[quote=walterwhite] of course the reverse is true too. If you got depressed or lost yr job and couldn’t get another one you wouldn’t lean on anyone in your family right?[/quote]
Absolutely you should be able to lean on people in your family when you have a reversal of circumstances. However, I think that many of us are talking about adult kids who are performing “leaning” of a one-way nature, and sucking their parents dry financially and emotionally and physically. Of course, many of the parents have their own issues, which is why they have “entitled” kids in the first place.
While we’re on the subject of entitlement, I’m tired of hearing many of the 20-to-30 age group bitch about what the baby boomers have left them. I can’t speak for how their parents may have fucked them up. But so many of them are bitching because they can’t get well-paying jobs, or because they have a degree in 1200 BC Middle-African Ceramics but are forced to work as a bank teller. Someone needs to tell them to shut up and grow up. The employment situation was no better in the 1970s and early 1980s. The economy sucked, and most people had to go out and get some (any) work experience to build up a resume. (Sorry, but I’ve been steaming ever since I read the thread about the “poor” law school and other graduates who can’t get $150K – $200K per year jobs to pay off their ridiculous school loans. Puh-leeeeze!)
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Friends just paid a small fortune to have their runaway kid kidnapped and taken to military type school out of state. Sad. When you have kids they’re yours forever.
What about recalcitrant teens? Give em the boot? Juvenile hall? [/quote]
Precisely the problem, scaredy. We fail to spend the time and effort necessary to raise our children properly. They act out. We ignore it, and, instead, buy them a new iPad or a car. They act out in a louder, more destructive way. We still try to ignore it, but the law won’t let us. We then find someone who will handle the problem for us, even if we have to shell out a lot of dough for it.
It’s so much easier to simply keep indulging them or ignoring them. I mean, no one ever told us that we’d have to touch these little creatures, or spend time actually listening to them. I mean, I had a kid to give ME unconditional love.
[quote=walterwhite] If an 18 yo were an adult we’d let her drink booze
[/quote]I’m not endorsing underage drinking, but my feeling is, if our country is willing to send an 18 year-old off to die in a war, they should also give him or her the right to walk into a bar and buy a drink. Just my opinion.
Anyway, what’s the difference? We give them cell phones, so that they can kill people while they text and drive. Why not booze?
[quote=walterwhite] of course the reverse is true too. If you got depressed or lost yr job and couldn’t get another one you wouldn’t lean on anyone in your family right?[/quote]
Absolutely you should be able to lean on people in your family when you have a reversal of circumstances. However, I think that many of us are talking about adult kids who are performing “leaning” of a one-way nature, and sucking their parents dry financially and emotionally and physically. Of course, many of the parents have their own issues, which is why they have “entitled” kids in the first place.
While we’re on the subject of entitlement, I’m tired of hearing many of the 20-to-30 age group bitch about what the baby boomers have left them. I can’t speak for how their parents may have fucked them up. But so many of them are bitching because they can’t get well-paying jobs, or because they have a degree in 1200 BC Middle-African Ceramics but are forced to work as a bank teller. Someone needs to tell them to shut up and grow up. The employment situation was no better in the 1970s and early 1980s. The economy sucked, and most people had to go out and get some (any) work experience to build up a resume. (Sorry, but I’ve been steaming ever since I read the thread about the “poor” law school and other graduates who can’t get $150K – $200K per year jobs to pay off their ridiculous school loans. Puh-leeeeze!)
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Friends just paid a small fortune to have their runaway kid kidnapped and taken to military type school out of state. Sad. When you have kids they’re yours forever.
What about recalcitrant teens? Give em the boot? Juvenile hall? [/quote]
Precisely the problem, scaredy. We fail to spend the time and effort necessary to raise our children properly. They act out. We ignore it, and, instead, buy them a new iPad or a car. They act out in a louder, more destructive way. We still try to ignore it, but the law won’t let us. We then find someone who will handle the problem for us, even if we have to shell out a lot of dough for it.
It’s so much easier to simply keep indulging them or ignoring them. I mean, no one ever told us that we’d have to touch these little creatures, or spend time actually listening to them. I mean, I had a kid to give ME unconditional love.
[quote=walterwhite] If an 18 yo were an adult we’d let her drink booze
[/quote]I’m not endorsing underage drinking, but my feeling is, if our country is willing to send an 18 year-old off to die in a war, they should also give him or her the right to walk into a bar and buy a drink. Just my opinion.
Anyway, what’s the difference? We give them cell phones, so that they can kill people while they text and drive. Why not booze?
[quote=walterwhite] of course the reverse is true too. If you got depressed or lost yr job and couldn’t get another one you wouldn’t lean on anyone in your family right?[/quote]
Absolutely you should be able to lean on people in your family when you have a reversal of circumstances. However, I think that many of us are talking about adult kids who are performing “leaning” of a one-way nature, and sucking their parents dry financially and emotionally and physically. Of course, many of the parents have their own issues, which is why they have “entitled” kids in the first place.
While we’re on the subject of entitlement, I’m tired of hearing many of the 20-to-30 age group bitch about what the baby boomers have left them. I can’t speak for how their parents may have fucked them up. But so many of them are bitching because they can’t get well-paying jobs, or because they have a degree in 1200 BC Middle-African Ceramics but are forced to work as a bank teller. Someone needs to tell them to shut up and grow up. The employment situation was no better in the 1970s and early 1980s. The economy sucked, and most people had to go out and get some (any) work experience to build up a resume. (Sorry, but I’ve been steaming ever since I read the thread about the “poor” law school and other graduates who can’t get $150K – $200K per year jobs to pay off their ridiculous school loans. Puh-leeeeze!)
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