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ParticipantI just wanna know how Obama’s TARP plan is different than Bush’s original TARP plan. No one is using the words Troubled Assest Releaf Plan anymore, but how is this one different? Other than the Bush’s was $750billion and Obama’s is $1Trillion.
Were gonna use private money too, yada yada yada. I was totally unaware that there was so much private money just sitting out there looking to buy morgage backed securities and that banks were ok letting them go at the very reduced prices, cementing their losses. Why werent they doing this on their own?
(I didnt read the details today, havent got a chance yet, but I am hoping to use some pigg readers as a filter and find some real nitty gritty about this stuff instead of a fluffer piece written directly from the press release.)
DWCAP
ParticipantSo I have this really long post about “what I would do….” but it is kinda rambeling and I am not sure it is addressing what Dave is talking about.
So before I post something that has nothing to do with anything and confuses everyone, what are we asking for here? Better ideas on how to solve the current crisis for the next 6 months, or better ideas on how to solve the crisis for the next 60?
DWCAP
ParticipantSo I have this really long post about “what I would do….” but it is kinda rambeling and I am not sure it is addressing what Dave is talking about.
So before I post something that has nothing to do with anything and confuses everyone, what are we asking for here? Better ideas on how to solve the current crisis for the next 6 months, or better ideas on how to solve the crisis for the next 60?
DWCAP
ParticipantSo I have this really long post about “what I would do….” but it is kinda rambeling and I am not sure it is addressing what Dave is talking about.
So before I post something that has nothing to do with anything and confuses everyone, what are we asking for here? Better ideas on how to solve the current crisis for the next 6 months, or better ideas on how to solve the crisis for the next 60?
DWCAP
ParticipantSo I have this really long post about “what I would do….” but it is kinda rambeling and I am not sure it is addressing what Dave is talking about.
So before I post something that has nothing to do with anything and confuses everyone, what are we asking for here? Better ideas on how to solve the current crisis for the next 6 months, or better ideas on how to solve the crisis for the next 60?
DWCAP
ParticipantSo I have this really long post about “what I would do….” but it is kinda rambeling and I am not sure it is addressing what Dave is talking about.
So before I post something that has nothing to do with anything and confuses everyone, what are we asking for here? Better ideas on how to solve the current crisis for the next 6 months, or better ideas on how to solve the crisis for the next 60?
DWCAP
ParticipantDave, I belive your point is more, “well what would you do?”. It is easy to throw stones at those who try to solve messy problems, it is much harder to solve messy problems.
It is like the whole problem with the prison system. We know it isnt fair to everyone, we know it doesnt really work (what is it 3/4 go back within 5 years?? soomething like that) and plenty of people have been sent to prison for crimes they didnt commit. And yet we keep sending people to prision in record numbers for longer periods of time, cause we dont know what else to do.
‘What do you do with a violent person who has no wish nor ability to self regulate?’
In college I knew alot of people who RAILED against the system, and yet couldnt come up with anything better when questoned.I think your challenge is something along these lines. What would you do that is so much better?
Am I right?
DWCAP
ParticipantDave, I belive your point is more, “well what would you do?”. It is easy to throw stones at those who try to solve messy problems, it is much harder to solve messy problems.
It is like the whole problem with the prison system. We know it isnt fair to everyone, we know it doesnt really work (what is it 3/4 go back within 5 years?? soomething like that) and plenty of people have been sent to prison for crimes they didnt commit. And yet we keep sending people to prision in record numbers for longer periods of time, cause we dont know what else to do.
‘What do you do with a violent person who has no wish nor ability to self regulate?’
In college I knew alot of people who RAILED against the system, and yet couldnt come up with anything better when questoned.I think your challenge is something along these lines. What would you do that is so much better?
Am I right?
DWCAP
ParticipantDave, I belive your point is more, “well what would you do?”. It is easy to throw stones at those who try to solve messy problems, it is much harder to solve messy problems.
It is like the whole problem with the prison system. We know it isnt fair to everyone, we know it doesnt really work (what is it 3/4 go back within 5 years?? soomething like that) and plenty of people have been sent to prison for crimes they didnt commit. And yet we keep sending people to prision in record numbers for longer periods of time, cause we dont know what else to do.
‘What do you do with a violent person who has no wish nor ability to self regulate?’
In college I knew alot of people who RAILED against the system, and yet couldnt come up with anything better when questoned.I think your challenge is something along these lines. What would you do that is so much better?
Am I right?
DWCAP
ParticipantDave, I belive your point is more, “well what would you do?”. It is easy to throw stones at those who try to solve messy problems, it is much harder to solve messy problems.
It is like the whole problem with the prison system. We know it isnt fair to everyone, we know it doesnt really work (what is it 3/4 go back within 5 years?? soomething like that) and plenty of people have been sent to prison for crimes they didnt commit. And yet we keep sending people to prision in record numbers for longer periods of time, cause we dont know what else to do.
‘What do you do with a violent person who has no wish nor ability to self regulate?’
In college I knew alot of people who RAILED against the system, and yet couldnt come up with anything better when questoned.I think your challenge is something along these lines. What would you do that is so much better?
Am I right?
DWCAP
ParticipantDave, I belive your point is more, “well what would you do?”. It is easy to throw stones at those who try to solve messy problems, it is much harder to solve messy problems.
It is like the whole problem with the prison system. We know it isnt fair to everyone, we know it doesnt really work (what is it 3/4 go back within 5 years?? soomething like that) and plenty of people have been sent to prison for crimes they didnt commit. And yet we keep sending people to prision in record numbers for longer periods of time, cause we dont know what else to do.
‘What do you do with a violent person who has no wish nor ability to self regulate?’
In college I knew alot of people who RAILED against the system, and yet couldnt come up with anything better when questoned.I think your challenge is something along these lines. What would you do that is so much better?
Am I right?
DWCAP
ParticipantDave,
So I end up with “how can it be ‘in good faith’ if it is all based on lies?” Just because politics is messy doesnt mean good faith doesnt require honesty. We will never get off this rollercoaster if at somepoint we never believe anything the government is saying.
If it isnt in good faith, then it is just more bull being shoveled by a different suit, and I see no reason not to criticize the current efforts being led by the same people and/or groups that got us here. Often it is in the criticism of my work that I find my best ideas.
DWCAP
ParticipantDave,
So I end up with “how can it be ‘in good faith’ if it is all based on lies?” Just because politics is messy doesnt mean good faith doesnt require honesty. We will never get off this rollercoaster if at somepoint we never believe anything the government is saying.
If it isnt in good faith, then it is just more bull being shoveled by a different suit, and I see no reason not to criticize the current efforts being led by the same people and/or groups that got us here. Often it is in the criticism of my work that I find my best ideas.
DWCAP
ParticipantDave,
So I end up with “how can it be ‘in good faith’ if it is all based on lies?” Just because politics is messy doesnt mean good faith doesnt require honesty. We will never get off this rollercoaster if at somepoint we never believe anything the government is saying.
If it isnt in good faith, then it is just more bull being shoveled by a different suit, and I see no reason not to criticize the current efforts being led by the same people and/or groups that got us here. Often it is in the criticism of my work that I find my best ideas.
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