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I remember during Gulf War I, there was a protest against the war in Washington, DC. There was an attractive co-ed holding a sign that said “No Blood for Oil”. When the interviewer asked where she was from, she replied, “Michigan”. When asked how she got to DC from Michigan, she replied, “I drove”. I damn near fell off the couch, I was laughing so hard. Oh, the irony. Lost on her, of course, the way it’s lost on Breezie.[/quote]
I saw this once. It was at an anti-war rally for the current Iraq war. There were alot of people leading a chant about “NO Blood for OIL” and other catchy sloagans durring college. They started ringing their keys along with the chant to help create and keep a beat. Well, I was walking from class to my house, cause it wasnt more than a mile or two and it was a nice spring day. I ended up following a girl from the protest to the parking lot cause that was the fastest way for me to go too. (Ie I wasnt following her). Anyways she hops into her Fatty SUV (Excersion??? I forget) and drives off. Clueless that she was in anyway part of the problem. Infact, Ill bet she felt that she was part of the solution.
ParticipantThis also depends on WHERE you bought your condo. Del Mar condo’s will prob hold up better than worn out poorly reconstructed conversions in El Cajon. If you bought in Del Mar, Id agree with Davelj, if you bought the one in El Cajon, I agree more with FLU.
ParticipantThis also depends on WHERE you bought your condo. Del Mar condo’s will prob hold up better than worn out poorly reconstructed conversions in El Cajon. If you bought in Del Mar, Id agree with Davelj, if you bought the one in El Cajon, I agree more with FLU.
ParticipantThis also depends on WHERE you bought your condo. Del Mar condo’s will prob hold up better than worn out poorly reconstructed conversions in El Cajon. If you bought in Del Mar, Id agree with Davelj, if you bought the one in El Cajon, I agree more with FLU.
ParticipantThis also depends on WHERE you bought your condo. Del Mar condo’s will prob hold up better than worn out poorly reconstructed conversions in El Cajon. If you bought in Del Mar, Id agree with Davelj, if you bought the one in El Cajon, I agree more with FLU.
ParticipantThis also depends on WHERE you bought your condo. Del Mar condo’s will prob hold up better than worn out poorly reconstructed conversions in El Cajon. If you bought in Del Mar, Id agree with Davelj, if you bought the one in El Cajon, I agree more with FLU.
ParticipantYou could always mail it in to those “cash for old jewlrey” places. They buy gold.
In all reality there will always be a market for gold, unless we go mad max, and you will always be able to find someone to buy it for paper currency. Call a few local coin shops and ask what their spread is and how long it would take.
ParticipantYou could always mail it in to those “cash for old jewlrey” places. They buy gold.
In all reality there will always be a market for gold, unless we go mad max, and you will always be able to find someone to buy it for paper currency. Call a few local coin shops and ask what their spread is and how long it would take.
ParticipantYou could always mail it in to those “cash for old jewlrey” places. They buy gold.
In all reality there will always be a market for gold, unless we go mad max, and you will always be able to find someone to buy it for paper currency. Call a few local coin shops and ask what their spread is and how long it would take.
ParticipantYou could always mail it in to those “cash for old jewlrey” places. They buy gold.
In all reality there will always be a market for gold, unless we go mad max, and you will always be able to find someone to buy it for paper currency. Call a few local coin shops and ask what their spread is and how long it would take.
ParticipantYou could always mail it in to those “cash for old jewlrey” places. They buy gold.
In all reality there will always be a market for gold, unless we go mad max, and you will always be able to find someone to buy it for paper currency. Call a few local coin shops and ask what their spread is and how long it would take.
ParticipantI dont wanna get into the tussel that has preceded this comment. It is rather obvious that there is some history playing out in this thread.
But to try to put it back on a course alittle more related to the true theme of the OP, the congressional budget office said that over HALF of the original TARP is gonan be lost? HALF! As in, we will get 50cents on the dollar in return for taxpayers money. And this wasnt in the Media anywhere? I mean, comone. CNN, get your head outa Obamas ass and atleast write something about this. Which is the bigger story?
A) Government projected to lose 356Billion on TARP
B) President Obama gives Queen an IPODWasnt it like 5 months ago we were suppose to be making money overall? Wasnt that the kinda snide little remark the talking heads used to sell this? “taxpayers may even see a return from this investment”. I sure remember it.
Now, I fully realize that TARP money has been taking some funny twists as of late. It originally looked like what we are now calling PPIP, but has become this amophus blob of prefered stock, AIG bailout money, troubled loan refinancing, and more. It has become a catch-all for any and every program that may or maynot loosen credit and fix portions of this housing mess. The Bank money so far seems to be ahead of the game (I think) and returning its money and even some real return. Great, YAY! Still, HALF is projected to be lost, and narry a peep was heard about it. And this isnt some blogger projection, it is the CBO. Hopefully they know something about this.
It seems to me that even if certain portions of this bill do offer some return, I should be able to criticize the entire bill when it looses more than half of the entire amount. If nothing else, it was written extreamly poorly so as to allow Government ‘leaders’ to enact any and all pet projects without sufficient oversight or debate. Unfornatually, I see the same happening with PIPP in the future, and I doubt it will stop there.
And then we will have the defenders coming out with completly unprovable or unassiabale statements like “well it woulda been worse if we hadnt done this” and “It was a necessary evil that stopped Depression II”. I cant prove you were wrong, and you cant prove you were right, but it happened and eventually things will get better so it musta worked right?
Maybe Inflation wont be such a big deal with these kinda returns on our newly printed money.
ParticipantI dont wanna get into the tussel that has preceded this comment. It is rather obvious that there is some history playing out in this thread.
But to try to put it back on a course alittle more related to the true theme of the OP, the congressional budget office said that over HALF of the original TARP is gonan be lost? HALF! As in, we will get 50cents on the dollar in return for taxpayers money. And this wasnt in the Media anywhere? I mean, comone. CNN, get your head outa Obamas ass and atleast write something about this. Which is the bigger story?
A) Government projected to lose 356Billion on TARP
B) President Obama gives Queen an IPODWasnt it like 5 months ago we were suppose to be making money overall? Wasnt that the kinda snide little remark the talking heads used to sell this? “taxpayers may even see a return from this investment”. I sure remember it.
Now, I fully realize that TARP money has been taking some funny twists as of late. It originally looked like what we are now calling PPIP, but has become this amophus blob of prefered stock, AIG bailout money, troubled loan refinancing, and more. It has become a catch-all for any and every program that may or maynot loosen credit and fix portions of this housing mess. The Bank money so far seems to be ahead of the game (I think) and returning its money and even some real return. Great, YAY! Still, HALF is projected to be lost, and narry a peep was heard about it. And this isnt some blogger projection, it is the CBO. Hopefully they know something about this.
It seems to me that even if certain portions of this bill do offer some return, I should be able to criticize the entire bill when it looses more than half of the entire amount. If nothing else, it was written extreamly poorly so as to allow Government ‘leaders’ to enact any and all pet projects without sufficient oversight or debate. Unfornatually, I see the same happening with PIPP in the future, and I doubt it will stop there.
And then we will have the defenders coming out with completly unprovable or unassiabale statements like “well it woulda been worse if we hadnt done this” and “It was a necessary evil that stopped Depression II”. I cant prove you were wrong, and you cant prove you were right, but it happened and eventually things will get better so it musta worked right?
Maybe Inflation wont be such a big deal with these kinda returns on our newly printed money.
ParticipantI dont wanna get into the tussel that has preceded this comment. It is rather obvious that there is some history playing out in this thread.
But to try to put it back on a course alittle more related to the true theme of the OP, the congressional budget office said that over HALF of the original TARP is gonan be lost? HALF! As in, we will get 50cents on the dollar in return for taxpayers money. And this wasnt in the Media anywhere? I mean, comone. CNN, get your head outa Obamas ass and atleast write something about this. Which is the bigger story?
A) Government projected to lose 356Billion on TARP
B) President Obama gives Queen an IPODWasnt it like 5 months ago we were suppose to be making money overall? Wasnt that the kinda snide little remark the talking heads used to sell this? “taxpayers may even see a return from this investment”. I sure remember it.
Now, I fully realize that TARP money has been taking some funny twists as of late. It originally looked like what we are now calling PPIP, but has become this amophus blob of prefered stock, AIG bailout money, troubled loan refinancing, and more. It has become a catch-all for any and every program that may or maynot loosen credit and fix portions of this housing mess. The Bank money so far seems to be ahead of the game (I think) and returning its money and even some real return. Great, YAY! Still, HALF is projected to be lost, and narry a peep was heard about it. And this isnt some blogger projection, it is the CBO. Hopefully they know something about this.
It seems to me that even if certain portions of this bill do offer some return, I should be able to criticize the entire bill when it looses more than half of the entire amount. If nothing else, it was written extreamly poorly so as to allow Government ‘leaders’ to enact any and all pet projects without sufficient oversight or debate. Unfornatually, I see the same happening with PIPP in the future, and I doubt it will stop there.
And then we will have the defenders coming out with completly unprovable or unassiabale statements like “well it woulda been worse if we hadnt done this” and “It was a necessary evil that stopped Depression II”. I cant prove you were wrong, and you cant prove you were right, but it happened and eventually things will get better so it musta worked right?
Maybe Inflation wont be such a big deal with these kinda returns on our newly printed money.
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