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November 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM in reply to: OT: It’s official – the majority of Californians are idiots. #300856DukehornParticipant
So, to use a real life scenario, what you are saying is:
a child that was born to a poor parent deserved to die from his cavities because his mother was too stupid and too poor to get him healthcare. Right? That as a society we don’t have a duty to our fellow human beings to make the world a live-able and sustainable place.
The corollary is if a child is born to a sexual predator, he/she deserves to be abused. Right? Natural law?
How very Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Islam of you…..
Seriously, try to understand the difference between managing poverty and “wealth distribution”. And don’t forget that kids are the ones that truly get harmed here though it seems you don’t give a rat’s ass.
DukehornParticipantSo, to use a real life scenario, what you are saying is:
a child that was born to a poor parent deserved to die from his cavities because his mother was too stupid and too poor to get him healthcare. Right? That as a society we don’t have a duty to our fellow human beings to make the world a live-able and sustainable place.
The corollary is if a child is born to a sexual predator, he/she deserves to be abused. Right? Natural law?
How very Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Islam of you…..
Seriously, try to understand the difference between managing poverty and “wealth distribution”. And don’t forget that kids are the ones that truly get harmed here though it seems you don’t give a rat’s ass.
DukehornParticipantSo, to use a real life scenario, what you are saying is:
a child that was born to a poor parent deserved to die from his cavities because his mother was too stupid and too poor to get him healthcare. Right? That as a society we don’t have a duty to our fellow human beings to make the world a live-able and sustainable place.
The corollary is if a child is born to a sexual predator, he/she deserves to be abused. Right? Natural law?
How very Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Islam of you…..
Seriously, try to understand the difference between managing poverty and “wealth distribution”. And don’t forget that kids are the ones that truly get harmed here though it seems you don’t give a rat’s ass.
DukehornParticipantSo, to use a real life scenario, what you are saying is:
a child that was born to a poor parent deserved to die from his cavities because his mother was too stupid and too poor to get him healthcare. Right? That as a society we don’t have a duty to our fellow human beings to make the world a live-able and sustainable place.
The corollary is if a child is born to a sexual predator, he/she deserves to be abused. Right? Natural law?
How very Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Islam of you…..
Seriously, try to understand the difference between managing poverty and “wealth distribution”. And don’t forget that kids are the ones that truly get harmed here though it seems you don’t give a rat’s ass.
DukehornParticipantSo, to use a real life scenario, what you are saying is:
a child that was born to a poor parent deserved to die from his cavities because his mother was too stupid and too poor to get him healthcare. Right? That as a society we don’t have a duty to our fellow human beings to make the world a live-able and sustainable place.
The corollary is if a child is born to a sexual predator, he/she deserves to be abused. Right? Natural law?
How very Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Islam of you…..
Seriously, try to understand the difference between managing poverty and “wealth distribution”. And don’t forget that kids are the ones that truly get harmed here though it seems you don’t give a rat’s ass.
DukehornParticipantOh please.
Here’s a Republican party that expects corporations to self-report their crimes (for EPA and SEC violations) and has lowered the budget for inspectors in both agencies. Who believes that white collar criminals have a greater propensity to turn themselves in than street felons? Only the current Republican incarnation. Oh really, white collar criminals like to turn themselves in?? What @#@#$@ study showed that?
Fixate on the numbers all you want, but the question is how did we get there? Lack of regulation/oversight.
Remember in the 80s when the military was paying for $800 dollar toilets? Due to what? Lack of regulation/oversight.
For all the squealing by the conservatives here about the bailout, the irony is that the conservatives didn’t want caps on executive compensation for companies that needed the bailout money.
So who’s being the idiot? Complaining about a bailout that’s trying to save our economy yet supporting the fact that executives being “bailed out” continue to receive their golden parachutes.
Dumb and dumber.
Meanwhile, look at Buckley, Parker, Will and Brooks recent spat of conservative essays wondering why anti-intellectualism and anti-education is governing the Republican party. You really think the US is going to be a competitive science power when we mock evolution, going to good schools, getting educated.
Little did I know that the immigrant dream of going to a good school is the penalty that’s forcing my generation of Asian-Americans to turn Dem. I mean if middle America is going to mock the Harvard, Yale, Duke, Stanford, MIT, Chicago grads, we’ll go Dem (travel around in the 3rd World a bit and realize that our taxes actually provide some useful infrastructure).
As for Obama being a Marxist, maybe someone should go back to school and study Marxism…..
And if you really think Jimmy Carter caused the housing bubble as opposed to lack of regulation regarding mortgage applications and derivative trading, you’re a @#$@ lost cause.
Furthermore, a number of you are being intellectually disingenuous when it comes to the bailout. Supporting the bailout from a pure save the economy viewpoint does not equate to supporting the policies that led to the bailout. Take your populist arguments where they belong. In the trash.
DukehornParticipantOh please.
Here’s a Republican party that expects corporations to self-report their crimes (for EPA and SEC violations) and has lowered the budget for inspectors in both agencies. Who believes that white collar criminals have a greater propensity to turn themselves in than street felons? Only the current Republican incarnation. Oh really, white collar criminals like to turn themselves in?? What @#@#$@ study showed that?
Fixate on the numbers all you want, but the question is how did we get there? Lack of regulation/oversight.
Remember in the 80s when the military was paying for $800 dollar toilets? Due to what? Lack of regulation/oversight.
For all the squealing by the conservatives here about the bailout, the irony is that the conservatives didn’t want caps on executive compensation for companies that needed the bailout money.
So who’s being the idiot? Complaining about a bailout that’s trying to save our economy yet supporting the fact that executives being “bailed out” continue to receive their golden parachutes.
Dumb and dumber.
Meanwhile, look at Buckley, Parker, Will and Brooks recent spat of conservative essays wondering why anti-intellectualism and anti-education is governing the Republican party. You really think the US is going to be a competitive science power when we mock evolution, going to good schools, getting educated.
Little did I know that the immigrant dream of going to a good school is the penalty that’s forcing my generation of Asian-Americans to turn Dem. I mean if middle America is going to mock the Harvard, Yale, Duke, Stanford, MIT, Chicago grads, we’ll go Dem (travel around in the 3rd World a bit and realize that our taxes actually provide some useful infrastructure).
As for Obama being a Marxist, maybe someone should go back to school and study Marxism…..
And if you really think Jimmy Carter caused the housing bubble as opposed to lack of regulation regarding mortgage applications and derivative trading, you’re a @#$@ lost cause.
Furthermore, a number of you are being intellectually disingenuous when it comes to the bailout. Supporting the bailout from a pure save the economy viewpoint does not equate to supporting the policies that led to the bailout. Take your populist arguments where they belong. In the trash.
DukehornParticipantOh please.
Here’s a Republican party that expects corporations to self-report their crimes (for EPA and SEC violations) and has lowered the budget for inspectors in both agencies. Who believes that white collar criminals have a greater propensity to turn themselves in than street felons? Only the current Republican incarnation. Oh really, white collar criminals like to turn themselves in?? What @#@#$@ study showed that?
Fixate on the numbers all you want, but the question is how did we get there? Lack of regulation/oversight.
Remember in the 80s when the military was paying for $800 dollar toilets? Due to what? Lack of regulation/oversight.
For all the squealing by the conservatives here about the bailout, the irony is that the conservatives didn’t want caps on executive compensation for companies that needed the bailout money.
So who’s being the idiot? Complaining about a bailout that’s trying to save our economy yet supporting the fact that executives being “bailed out” continue to receive their golden parachutes.
Dumb and dumber.
Meanwhile, look at Buckley, Parker, Will and Brooks recent spat of conservative essays wondering why anti-intellectualism and anti-education is governing the Republican party. You really think the US is going to be a competitive science power when we mock evolution, going to good schools, getting educated.
Little did I know that the immigrant dream of going to a good school is the penalty that’s forcing my generation of Asian-Americans to turn Dem. I mean if middle America is going to mock the Harvard, Yale, Duke, Stanford, MIT, Chicago grads, we’ll go Dem (travel around in the 3rd World a bit and realize that our taxes actually provide some useful infrastructure).
As for Obama being a Marxist, maybe someone should go back to school and study Marxism…..
And if you really think Jimmy Carter caused the housing bubble as opposed to lack of regulation regarding mortgage applications and derivative trading, you’re a @#$@ lost cause.
Furthermore, a number of you are being intellectually disingenuous when it comes to the bailout. Supporting the bailout from a pure save the economy viewpoint does not equate to supporting the policies that led to the bailout. Take your populist arguments where they belong. In the trash.
DukehornParticipantOh please.
Here’s a Republican party that expects corporations to self-report their crimes (for EPA and SEC violations) and has lowered the budget for inspectors in both agencies. Who believes that white collar criminals have a greater propensity to turn themselves in than street felons? Only the current Republican incarnation. Oh really, white collar criminals like to turn themselves in?? What @#@#$@ study showed that?
Fixate on the numbers all you want, but the question is how did we get there? Lack of regulation/oversight.
Remember in the 80s when the military was paying for $800 dollar toilets? Due to what? Lack of regulation/oversight.
For all the squealing by the conservatives here about the bailout, the irony is that the conservatives didn’t want caps on executive compensation for companies that needed the bailout money.
So who’s being the idiot? Complaining about a bailout that’s trying to save our economy yet supporting the fact that executives being “bailed out” continue to receive their golden parachutes.
Dumb and dumber.
Meanwhile, look at Buckley, Parker, Will and Brooks recent spat of conservative essays wondering why anti-intellectualism and anti-education is governing the Republican party. You really think the US is going to be a competitive science power when we mock evolution, going to good schools, getting educated.
Little did I know that the immigrant dream of going to a good school is the penalty that’s forcing my generation of Asian-Americans to turn Dem. I mean if middle America is going to mock the Harvard, Yale, Duke, Stanford, MIT, Chicago grads, we’ll go Dem (travel around in the 3rd World a bit and realize that our taxes actually provide some useful infrastructure).
As for Obama being a Marxist, maybe someone should go back to school and study Marxism…..
And if you really think Jimmy Carter caused the housing bubble as opposed to lack of regulation regarding mortgage applications and derivative trading, you’re a @#$@ lost cause.
Furthermore, a number of you are being intellectually disingenuous when it comes to the bailout. Supporting the bailout from a pure save the economy viewpoint does not equate to supporting the policies that led to the bailout. Take your populist arguments where they belong. In the trash.
DukehornParticipantOh please.
Here’s a Republican party that expects corporations to self-report their crimes (for EPA and SEC violations) and has lowered the budget for inspectors in both agencies. Who believes that white collar criminals have a greater propensity to turn themselves in than street felons? Only the current Republican incarnation. Oh really, white collar criminals like to turn themselves in?? What @#@#$@ study showed that?
Fixate on the numbers all you want, but the question is how did we get there? Lack of regulation/oversight.
Remember in the 80s when the military was paying for $800 dollar toilets? Due to what? Lack of regulation/oversight.
For all the squealing by the conservatives here about the bailout, the irony is that the conservatives didn’t want caps on executive compensation for companies that needed the bailout money.
So who’s being the idiot? Complaining about a bailout that’s trying to save our economy yet supporting the fact that executives being “bailed out” continue to receive their golden parachutes.
Dumb and dumber.
Meanwhile, look at Buckley, Parker, Will and Brooks recent spat of conservative essays wondering why anti-intellectualism and anti-education is governing the Republican party. You really think the US is going to be a competitive science power when we mock evolution, going to good schools, getting educated.
Little did I know that the immigrant dream of going to a good school is the penalty that’s forcing my generation of Asian-Americans to turn Dem. I mean if middle America is going to mock the Harvard, Yale, Duke, Stanford, MIT, Chicago grads, we’ll go Dem (travel around in the 3rd World a bit and realize that our taxes actually provide some useful infrastructure).
As for Obama being a Marxist, maybe someone should go back to school and study Marxism…..
And if you really think Jimmy Carter caused the housing bubble as opposed to lack of regulation regarding mortgage applications and derivative trading, you’re a @#$@ lost cause.
Furthermore, a number of you are being intellectually disingenuous when it comes to the bailout. Supporting the bailout from a pure save the economy viewpoint does not equate to supporting the policies that led to the bailout. Take your populist arguments where they belong. In the trash.
October 14, 2008 at 6:38 PM in reply to: OT – Inside Obama’s “Tax Cut” Can you say Redistribution! #287304DukehornParticipantOh please, do any of you have an ex-roommate from law school whose sole job at KPMG is to figure out how corporations and rich executives can avoid tax obligations. I do (and he earns over 400k a year with no billable requirements to figure out how to avoid the tax code).
Last I saw, no “middle class” worker has that kind of firepower to figure out how to avoid taxes.
If you think that folks aren’t going to work hard because of tax implications maybe you should examine the current state of the economy and accept the notion that folks are going to work hard to save their jobs. (Or are you taking McCain’s position that we have stable fundamentals right now?) Or is that the new Republican byline–unemployment is the first step to being an entrepreneur?
Maybe you should wonder why Chris Buckley left the National Review or why David Brooks just wrote an article stating that the Republican party is now the anti-education party. Or how David Frum got his ass handed to him by Rachel Maddow a few nights ago. This isn’t the party of Reagan 20 years ago.
October 14, 2008 at 6:38 PM in reply to: OT – Inside Obama’s “Tax Cut” Can you say Redistribution! #287603DukehornParticipantOh please, do any of you have an ex-roommate from law school whose sole job at KPMG is to figure out how corporations and rich executives can avoid tax obligations. I do (and he earns over 400k a year with no billable requirements to figure out how to avoid the tax code).
Last I saw, no “middle class” worker has that kind of firepower to figure out how to avoid taxes.
If you think that folks aren’t going to work hard because of tax implications maybe you should examine the current state of the economy and accept the notion that folks are going to work hard to save their jobs. (Or are you taking McCain’s position that we have stable fundamentals right now?) Or is that the new Republican byline–unemployment is the first step to being an entrepreneur?
Maybe you should wonder why Chris Buckley left the National Review or why David Brooks just wrote an article stating that the Republican party is now the anti-education party. Or how David Frum got his ass handed to him by Rachel Maddow a few nights ago. This isn’t the party of Reagan 20 years ago.
October 14, 2008 at 6:38 PM in reply to: OT – Inside Obama’s “Tax Cut” Can you say Redistribution! #287620DukehornParticipantOh please, do any of you have an ex-roommate from law school whose sole job at KPMG is to figure out how corporations and rich executives can avoid tax obligations. I do (and he earns over 400k a year with no billable requirements to figure out how to avoid the tax code).
Last I saw, no “middle class” worker has that kind of firepower to figure out how to avoid taxes.
If you think that folks aren’t going to work hard because of tax implications maybe you should examine the current state of the economy and accept the notion that folks are going to work hard to save their jobs. (Or are you taking McCain’s position that we have stable fundamentals right now?) Or is that the new Republican byline–unemployment is the first step to being an entrepreneur?
Maybe you should wonder why Chris Buckley left the National Review or why David Brooks just wrote an article stating that the Republican party is now the anti-education party. Or how David Frum got his ass handed to him by Rachel Maddow a few nights ago. This isn’t the party of Reagan 20 years ago.
October 14, 2008 at 6:38 PM in reply to: OT – Inside Obama’s “Tax Cut” Can you say Redistribution! #287647DukehornParticipantOh please, do any of you have an ex-roommate from law school whose sole job at KPMG is to figure out how corporations and rich executives can avoid tax obligations. I do (and he earns over 400k a year with no billable requirements to figure out how to avoid the tax code).
Last I saw, no “middle class” worker has that kind of firepower to figure out how to avoid taxes.
If you think that folks aren’t going to work hard because of tax implications maybe you should examine the current state of the economy and accept the notion that folks are going to work hard to save their jobs. (Or are you taking McCain’s position that we have stable fundamentals right now?) Or is that the new Republican byline–unemployment is the first step to being an entrepreneur?
Maybe you should wonder why Chris Buckley left the National Review or why David Brooks just wrote an article stating that the Republican party is now the anti-education party. Or how David Frum got his ass handed to him by Rachel Maddow a few nights ago. This isn’t the party of Reagan 20 years ago.
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