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[quote=patb][quote=XBoxBoy]Okay, if we’re going to talk conspiracy theories, here’s my version:

The Japanese were Yakuzi who were brokering a deal between Iran and France. The deal was for Iran to buy a nuke from France for 100 billion dollars. The Iranians, being the clever sort decided rather than pay with actual dollars, they would just print 134 billion in counterfeit bonds. (100B for the French, 34 billion commission to the Yakuzi) The Yakuzi were on their way to deposit the bonds in a Swiss bank for the French. BUT! The CIA got wind of the deal and tipped Italy, thus stopping the sale of a nuke to Iran.

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dude

You can buy a nuke for $100 million.

They just aren’t that expensive.

pakistan builds and sells them, Israel builds them, China builds them.

Look a Nuclear reactor is 2-5 Billion. If you have 10 Racs, you have the
capacity to build nuclear bombs.

Say a good physics technician is $100K/year in the thrid world,
You are talking of 200,000 Man years of labor in money, if you assume some amount for equipment and overhead.

For this kind of money, you get more then a nuke.

[/quote]

Even North Korea thinks it can build them and sell them…

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[quote=patb][quote=XBoxBoy]Okay, if we’re going to talk conspiracy theories, here’s my version:

The Japanese were Yakuzi who were brokering a deal between Iran and France. The deal was for Iran to buy a nuke from France for 100 billion dollars. The Iranians, being the clever sort decided rather than pay with actual dollars, they would just print 134 billion in counterfeit bonds. (100B for the French, 34 billion commission to the Yakuzi) The Yakuzi were on their way to deposit the bonds in a Swiss bank for the French. BUT! The CIA got wind of the deal and tipped Italy, thus stopping the sale of a nuke to Iran.

[/quote]

dude

You can buy a nuke for $100 million.

They just aren’t that expensive.

pakistan builds and sells them, Israel builds them, China builds them.

Look a Nuclear reactor is 2-5 Billion. If you have 10 Racs, you have the
capacity to build nuclear bombs.

Say a good physics technician is $100K/year in the thrid world,
You are talking of 200,000 Man years of labor in money, if you assume some amount for equipment and overhead.

For this kind of money, you get more then a nuke.

[/quote]

Even North Korea thinks it can build them and sell them…

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[quote=patb][quote=XBoxBoy]Okay, if we’re going to talk conspiracy theories, here’s my version:

The Japanese were Yakuzi who were brokering a deal between Iran and France. The deal was for Iran to buy a nuke from France for 100 billion dollars. The Iranians, being the clever sort decided rather than pay with actual dollars, they would just print 134 billion in counterfeit bonds. (100B for the French, 34 billion commission to the Yakuzi) The Yakuzi were on their way to deposit the bonds in a Swiss bank for the French. BUT! The CIA got wind of the deal and tipped Italy, thus stopping the sale of a nuke to Iran.

[/quote]

dude

You can buy a nuke for $100 million.

They just aren’t that expensive.

pakistan builds and sells them, Israel builds them, China builds them.

Look a Nuclear reactor is 2-5 Billion. If you have 10 Racs, you have the
capacity to build nuclear bombs.

Say a good physics technician is $100K/year in the thrid world,
You are talking of 200,000 Man years of labor in money, if you assume some amount for equipment and overhead.

For this kind of money, you get more then a nuke.

[/quote]

Even North Korea thinks it can build them and sell them…

[dbapig]

[quote=patb][quote=XBoxBoy]Okay, if we’re going to talk conspiracy theories, here’s my version:

The Japanese were Yakuzi who were brokering a deal between Iran and France. The deal was for Iran to buy a nuke from France for 100 billion dollars. The Iranians, being the clever sort decided rather than pay with actual dollars, they would just print 134 billion in counterfeit bonds. (100B for the French, 34 billion commission to the Yakuzi) The Yakuzi were on their way to deposit the bonds in a Swiss bank for the French. BUT! The CIA got wind of the deal and tipped Italy, thus stopping the sale of a nuke to Iran.

[/quote]

dude

You can buy a nuke for $100 million.

They just aren’t that expensive.

pakistan builds and sells them, Israel builds them, China builds them.

Look a Nuclear reactor is 2-5 Billion. If you have 10 Racs, you have the
capacity to build nuclear bombs.

Say a good physics technician is $100K/year in the thrid world,
You are talking of 200,000 Man years of labor in money, if you assume some amount for equipment and overhead.

For this kind of money, you get more then a nuke.

[/quote]

Even North Korea thinks it can build them and sell them…

[dbapig]

[quote=patb][quote=XBoxBoy]Okay, if we’re going to talk conspiracy theories, here’s my version:

The Japanese were Yakuzi who were brokering a deal between Iran and France. The deal was for Iran to buy a nuke from France for 100 billion dollars. The Iranians, being the clever sort decided rather than pay with actual dollars, they would just print 134 billion in counterfeit bonds. (100B for the French, 34 billion commission to the Yakuzi) The Yakuzi were on their way to deposit the bonds in a Swiss bank for the French. BUT! The CIA got wind of the deal and tipped Italy, thus stopping the sale of a nuke to Iran.

[/quote]

dude

You can buy a nuke for $100 million.

They just aren’t that expensive.

pakistan builds and sells them, Israel builds them, China builds them.

Look a Nuclear reactor is 2-5 Billion. If you have 10 Racs, you have the
capacity to build nuclear bombs.

Say a good physics technician is $100K/year in the thrid world,
You are talking of 200,000 Man years of labor in money, if you assume some amount for equipment and overhead.

For this kind of money, you get more then a nuke.

[/quote]

Even North Korea thinks it can build them and sell them…

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In case it got lost in previous comments,

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did I mention ROK offers UNIVERSAL healthcare for its citizens?
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In case it got lost in previous comments,

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did I mention ROK offers UNIVERSAL healthcare for its citizens?
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In case it got lost in previous comments,

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did I mention ROK offers UNIVERSAL healthcare for its citizens?
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In case it got lost in previous comments,

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did I mention ROK offers UNIVERSAL healthcare for its citizens?
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In case it got lost in previous comments,

———–
did I mention ROK offers UNIVERSAL healthcare for its citizens?
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[quote=Rt.66]One thing I noticed from looking into Korean autoworker wages is that Koreans protect and fight for these jobs like angry badgers. Man they’ll strike and shut a town down if a sneeze comes out sounding like “layoffs”.

Another example of a country that recognizes the importance and worth of good jobs and fights for them.

While we continue to debate whether or not it’s a good idea to cheer for the LOSS of the same jobs.

Funny.
[/quote]

Few explanations.

Union at Hyundai Motors is particularly combative. Not sure why but they are very aggressive. Many S Koreans don’t like them (union members) too much i think.

A sister company across town, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has a much more reasonable union. HHI is a huge ship builder. Union at HHI used to be aggressive and had huge street battles (really battles) and all. But the management learned to work with them and their union is much less combative. In fact the union volunteered few months ago not to interfere if the management decides to cut wages etc in the difficult time. It helps that HHI has enough orders to keep them busy for next 3 years but still.

Many jobs left ROK and went to other cheaper areas like China etc.

IMO, one thing that’s hindering US from acting swiftly is the US Treasury’s printing press. ROK don’t own printing press that can print $$.

US has Plan B, the printing press, although that might change if China has its way. But not ROK.

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[quote=Rt.66]One thing I noticed from looking into Korean autoworker wages is that Koreans protect and fight for these jobs like angry badgers. Man they’ll strike and shut a town down if a sneeze comes out sounding like “layoffs”.

Another example of a country that recognizes the importance and worth of good jobs and fights for them.

While we continue to debate whether or not it’s a good idea to cheer for the LOSS of the same jobs.

Funny.
[/quote]

Few explanations.

Union at Hyundai Motors is particularly combative. Not sure why but they are very aggressive. Many S Koreans don’t like them (union members) too much i think.

A sister company across town, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has a much more reasonable union. HHI is a huge ship builder. Union at HHI used to be aggressive and had huge street battles (really battles) and all. But the management learned to work with them and their union is much less combative. In fact the union volunteered few months ago not to interfere if the management decides to cut wages etc in the difficult time. It helps that HHI has enough orders to keep them busy for next 3 years but still.

Many jobs left ROK and went to other cheaper areas like China etc.

IMO, one thing that’s hindering US from acting swiftly is the US Treasury’s printing press. ROK don’t own printing press that can print $$.

US has Plan B, the printing press, although that might change if China has its way. But not ROK.

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[quote=Rt.66]One thing I noticed from looking into Korean autoworker wages is that Koreans protect and fight for these jobs like angry badgers. Man they’ll strike and shut a town down if a sneeze comes out sounding like “layoffs”.

Another example of a country that recognizes the importance and worth of good jobs and fights for them.

While we continue to debate whether or not it’s a good idea to cheer for the LOSS of the same jobs.

Funny.
[/quote]

Few explanations.

Union at Hyundai Motors is particularly combative. Not sure why but they are very aggressive. Many S Koreans don’t like them (union members) too much i think.

A sister company across town, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has a much more reasonable union. HHI is a huge ship builder. Union at HHI used to be aggressive and had huge street battles (really battles) and all. But the management learned to work with them and their union is much less combative. In fact the union volunteered few months ago not to interfere if the management decides to cut wages etc in the difficult time. It helps that HHI has enough orders to keep them busy for next 3 years but still.

Many jobs left ROK and went to other cheaper areas like China etc.

IMO, one thing that’s hindering US from acting swiftly is the US Treasury’s printing press. ROK don’t own printing press that can print $$.

US has Plan B, the printing press, although that might change if China has its way. But not ROK.

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[quote=Rt.66]One thing I noticed from looking into Korean autoworker wages is that Koreans protect and fight for these jobs like angry badgers. Man they’ll strike and shut a town down if a sneeze comes out sounding like “layoffs”.

Another example of a country that recognizes the importance and worth of good jobs and fights for them.

While we continue to debate whether or not it’s a good idea to cheer for the LOSS of the same jobs.

Funny.
[/quote]

Few explanations.

Union at Hyundai Motors is particularly combative. Not sure why but they are very aggressive. Many S Koreans don’t like them (union members) too much i think.

A sister company across town, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has a much more reasonable union. HHI is a huge ship builder. Union at HHI used to be aggressive and had huge street battles (really battles) and all. But the management learned to work with them and their union is much less combative. In fact the union volunteered few months ago not to interfere if the management decides to cut wages etc in the difficult time. It helps that HHI has enough orders to keep them busy for next 3 years but still.

Many jobs left ROK and went to other cheaper areas like China etc.

IMO, one thing that’s hindering US from acting swiftly is the US Treasury’s printing press. ROK don’t own printing press that can print $$.

US has Plan B, the printing press, although that might change if China has its way. But not ROK.

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[quote=Rt.66]One thing I noticed from looking into Korean autoworker wages is that Koreans protect and fight for these jobs like angry badgers. Man they’ll strike and shut a town down if a sneeze comes out sounding like “layoffs”.

Another example of a country that recognizes the importance and worth of good jobs and fights for them.

While we continue to debate whether or not it’s a good idea to cheer for the LOSS of the same jobs.

Funny.
[/quote]

Few explanations.

Union at Hyundai Motors is particularly combative. Not sure why but they are very aggressive. Many S Koreans don’t like them (union members) too much i think.

A sister company across town, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has a much more reasonable union. HHI is a huge ship builder. Union at HHI used to be aggressive and had huge street battles (really battles) and all. But the management learned to work with them and their union is much less combative. In fact the union volunteered few months ago not to interfere if the management decides to cut wages etc in the difficult time. It helps that HHI has enough orders to keep them busy for next 3 years but still.

Many jobs left ROK and went to other cheaper areas like China etc.

IMO, one thing that’s hindering US from acting swiftly is the US Treasury’s printing press. ROK don’t own printing press that can print $$.

US has Plan B, the printing press, although that might change if China has its way. But not ROK.

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