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Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Concho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
I mean really now, come on guys.
When I argued cap and trade one of the brilliant points taken up by the opposition was that we should lead and countries like India and China will follow. Oh and by the way we will develop all this technology that they will buy to keep thier own development clean. Hmmm, I think I read recently that India just said go to hell with that idea.
So lets see. This healthcare system will prevent the guy on the corner from coughing on me so I will not get TB. We will live in this perfect world where all the newly developing countries will not saw SCREW YOU and they will immediately implement measures to cap and trade on thier own industry as well. Furthermore they will buy our technology to clean themselves up. Furthemore, even though the healthcare reform (IN WHICH I AM AGREEING WITH YOU THAT SOMETHING BETTER IS NEEDED) should be rammed through as soon as possible without diligent thought and examination. It HAS TO GO THROUGH NOW because if it is thoroughly examined then it may not go through even though the party pushing it HAS MAJORITY IN ALL BRANCHES.
I just want to make sure I understand the argument here because it sounds perfectly insane to me.[/quote]
TB issue is just an ‘example.’ When a large portion of the country is uninsured, thus not getting enough preventive health care, we all end up paying MORE eventually.
About the law being ‘rammed’ through, it’s not my preference. I was just laying out what the Dems seems to be thinking. Come to think of it, ramming laws (aka invading other nation) seem to be a rather common thing in US politics.
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No one on this thread replied to my question about South Korea. Again, what is South Korea doing right in providing near universal health care that USA can’t?
—————————————————-Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Concho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
I mean really now, come on guys.
When I argued cap and trade one of the brilliant points taken up by the opposition was that we should lead and countries like India and China will follow. Oh and by the way we will develop all this technology that they will buy to keep thier own development clean. Hmmm, I think I read recently that India just said go to hell with that idea.
So lets see. This healthcare system will prevent the guy on the corner from coughing on me so I will not get TB. We will live in this perfect world where all the newly developing countries will not saw SCREW YOU and they will immediately implement measures to cap and trade on thier own industry as well. Furthermore they will buy our technology to clean themselves up. Furthemore, even though the healthcare reform (IN WHICH I AM AGREEING WITH YOU THAT SOMETHING BETTER IS NEEDED) should be rammed through as soon as possible without diligent thought and examination. It HAS TO GO THROUGH NOW because if it is thoroughly examined then it may not go through even though the party pushing it HAS MAJORITY IN ALL BRANCHES.
I just want to make sure I understand the argument here because it sounds perfectly insane to me.[/quote]
TB issue is just an ‘example.’ When a large portion of the country is uninsured, thus not getting enough preventive health care, we all end up paying MORE eventually.
About the law being ‘rammed’ through, it’s not my preference. I was just laying out what the Dems seems to be thinking. Come to think of it, ramming laws (aka invading other nation) seem to be a rather common thing in US politics.
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No one on this thread replied to my question about South Korea. Again, what is South Korea doing right in providing near universal health care that USA can’t?
—————————————————-Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Concho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
I mean really now, come on guys.
When I argued cap and trade one of the brilliant points taken up by the opposition was that we should lead and countries like India and China will follow. Oh and by the way we will develop all this technology that they will buy to keep thier own development clean. Hmmm, I think I read recently that India just said go to hell with that idea.
So lets see. This healthcare system will prevent the guy on the corner from coughing on me so I will not get TB. We will live in this perfect world where all the newly developing countries will not saw SCREW YOU and they will immediately implement measures to cap and trade on thier own industry as well. Furthermore they will buy our technology to clean themselves up. Furthemore, even though the healthcare reform (IN WHICH I AM AGREEING WITH YOU THAT SOMETHING BETTER IS NEEDED) should be rammed through as soon as possible without diligent thought and examination. It HAS TO GO THROUGH NOW because if it is thoroughly examined then it may not go through even though the party pushing it HAS MAJORITY IN ALL BRANCHES.
I just want to make sure I understand the argument here because it sounds perfectly insane to me.[/quote]
TB issue is just an ‘example.’ When a large portion of the country is uninsured, thus not getting enough preventive health care, we all end up paying MORE eventually.
About the law being ‘rammed’ through, it’s not my preference. I was just laying out what the Dems seems to be thinking. Come to think of it, ramming laws (aka invading other nation) seem to be a rather common thing in US politics.
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No one on this thread replied to my question about South Korea. Again, what is South Korea doing right in providing near universal health care that USA can’t?
—————————————————-Participant[quote=SD Realtor]Concho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
I mean really now, come on guys.
When I argued cap and trade one of the brilliant points taken up by the opposition was that we should lead and countries like India and China will follow. Oh and by the way we will develop all this technology that they will buy to keep thier own development clean. Hmmm, I think I read recently that India just said go to hell with that idea.
So lets see. This healthcare system will prevent the guy on the corner from coughing on me so I will not get TB. We will live in this perfect world where all the newly developing countries will not saw SCREW YOU and they will immediately implement measures to cap and trade on thier own industry as well. Furthermore they will buy our technology to clean themselves up. Furthemore, even though the healthcare reform (IN WHICH I AM AGREEING WITH YOU THAT SOMETHING BETTER IS NEEDED) should be rammed through as soon as possible without diligent thought and examination. It HAS TO GO THROUGH NOW because if it is thoroughly examined then it may not go through even though the party pushing it HAS MAJORITY IN ALL BRANCHES.
I just want to make sure I understand the argument here because it sounds perfectly insane to me.[/quote]
TB issue is just an ‘example.’ When a large portion of the country is uninsured, thus not getting enough preventive health care, we all end up paying MORE eventually.
About the law being ‘rammed’ through, it’s not my preference. I was just laying out what the Dems seems to be thinking. Come to think of it, ramming laws (aka invading other nation) seem to be a rather common thing in US politics.
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No one on this thread replied to my question about South Korea. Again, what is South Korea doing right in providing near universal health care that USA can’t?
—————————————————-Participant[quote=AN]Depression cooking: http://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking#play/uploads/9/yREFkmrrYiw. She’s making egg drop soup. :-). Us Asians are still eating that today.[/quote]
🙂
An MD I know told me rice is considered near perfect food in terms of nutrients it provides… Any dietician around here?
Participant[quote=AN]Depression cooking: http://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking#play/uploads/9/yREFkmrrYiw. She’s making egg drop soup. :-). Us Asians are still eating that today.[/quote]
🙂
An MD I know told me rice is considered near perfect food in terms of nutrients it provides… Any dietician around here?
Participant[quote=AN]Depression cooking: http://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking#play/uploads/9/yREFkmrrYiw. She’s making egg drop soup. :-). Us Asians are still eating that today.[/quote]
🙂
An MD I know told me rice is considered near perfect food in terms of nutrients it provides… Any dietician around here?
Participant[quote=AN]Depression cooking: http://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking#play/uploads/9/yREFkmrrYiw. She’s making egg drop soup. :-). Us Asians are still eating that today.[/quote]
🙂
An MD I know told me rice is considered near perfect food in terms of nutrients it provides… Any dietician around here?
Participant[quote=AN]Depression cooking: http://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking#play/uploads/9/yREFkmrrYiw. She’s making egg drop soup. :-). Us Asians are still eating that today.[/quote]
🙂
An MD I know told me rice is considered near perfect food in terms of nutrients it provides… Any dietician around here?
Participant[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]
OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?
South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.
Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?
As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?
I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.
Participant[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]
OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?
South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.
Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?
As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?
I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.
Participant[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]
OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?
South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.
Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?
As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?
I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.
Participant[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]
OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?
South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.
Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?
As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?
I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.
Participant[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]
OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?
South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.
Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?
As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?
I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.
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