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Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.[/quote]Ok so you believe we do not need to do anything? status quo?
I read somewhere about health care in Canada or Europe that mentioned an overweight patient. A patient was considered over weight by his Primary care doctor so she was put on a 2 Year long coaching program to bring her weight down. I assume it was something like come in regularly for weight check up and tell us what you eat and how much you exercise etc. I guess that’s taking away liberty from the woman?
Many many not being able to afford health care, getting kicked out from insurance when you really need it, I’d say that’s pretty crap.
Participant[quote=AN]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.[/quote]Ok so you believe we do not need to do anything? status quo?
I read somewhere about health care in Canada or Europe that mentioned an overweight patient. A patient was considered over weight by his Primary care doctor so she was put on a 2 Year long coaching program to bring her weight down. I assume it was something like come in regularly for weight check up and tell us what you eat and how much you exercise etc. I guess that’s taking away liberty from the woman?
Many many not being able to afford health care, getting kicked out from insurance when you really need it, I’d say that’s pretty crap.
Participant[quote=AN]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.[/quote]Ok so you believe we do not need to do anything? status quo?
I read somewhere about health care in Canada or Europe that mentioned an overweight patient. A patient was considered over weight by his Primary care doctor so she was put on a 2 Year long coaching program to bring her weight down. I assume it was something like come in regularly for weight check up and tell us what you eat and how much you exercise etc. I guess that’s taking away liberty from the woman?
Many many not being able to afford health care, getting kicked out from insurance when you really need it, I’d say that’s pretty crap.
Participant[quote=AN]
Yes, lets please compare. First and foremost, how many illegal immigrants are in any of those western European countries and Canada? That’s enough to mess up the statistics. Secondly, what’s the obesity rate in those countries? Thirdly, what’s the survival rate when you get diagnosed with things like cancer/heart disease? Then compare to the answers of those question to what we have in the US. Once again, what we have is not perfect, but it’s not complete crap either.[/quote]Ok so you believe we do not need to do anything? status quo?
I read somewhere about health care in Canada or Europe that mentioned an overweight patient. A patient was considered over weight by his Primary care doctor so she was put on a 2 Year long coaching program to bring her weight down. I assume it was something like come in regularly for weight check up and tell us what you eat and how much you exercise etc. I guess that’s taking away liberty from the woman?
Many many not being able to afford health care, getting kicked out from insurance when you really need it, I’d say that’s pretty crap.
Participant[quote=CONCHO]
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.[/quote]How true. I think we ALL can agree on this.
Participant[quote=CONCHO]
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.[/quote]How true. I think we ALL can agree on this.
Participant[quote=CONCHO]
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.[/quote]How true. I think we ALL can agree on this.
Participant[quote=CONCHO]
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.[/quote]How true. I think we ALL can agree on this.
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The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.[/quote]How true. I think we ALL can agree on this.
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.
My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.
Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]
Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.
Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.Participant[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.
My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.
Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]
Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.
Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.Participant[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.
My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.
Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]
Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.
Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.Participant[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.
My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.
Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]
Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.
Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing.Participant[quote=SD Realtor]So again, just trying to understand your logic dba. First it was, it had to be rammed through because it will not pass if we wait and really study it. Now it is okay it can be rammed through because previous administrations rammed things through.
My mistake I should have thought of that. Doing something wrong because it was done wrong before certainly justifies doing something wrong again.
Trying to compare South Korea to the US is not practical. In essence, the demographics of the population do not scale at all. Neither does the illegal immigration issues, nor the number of baby boomers we have aging. I would even venture to say South Korea does not have the welfare problem we have today. In essence in some situations it does work but in ours the solution is much more complex and will require more study.[/quote]
Like I said, it was the Dems wanting to ‘ram’ it through. I said I do not like that myself too much. I’m however inclined to believing that if not ‘rammed’ through, nothing will get done. If time is taken to ‘study’ this issue, nothing will be done. Strange logic but that seems to be the way things work in DC. Let me emphasize though me don’t like ‘ramming’ it through.
Funny though. bush/GOP rammed through invading iraq. and Dems ‘ramming’ through (although not done deal) the health care reform. i’d call it even…
How about comparing what US has (or rather doesn’t have) to western european and canada? I just brought up South Korea into ‘shaming’ us into action…
Remember, South Korea was the nation that brought us the junk Hyundai cars, although the perception seems to be changing. -
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