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Participant[quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.[/quote]
Bush Jr – I don’t know many who think he got into Yale and Harvard because of his intelligence. It’s family connection don’t ya think? What was his GPA in Yale?
McCain – Not as bad as Bush but his ranking in Naval Academy was close to the last. And he wrecked 5 US Navy planes (granted one was in combat) before he was done with it.
Reagan – Actor. Enough said.
POTUS has to be a leader AND a pretty smart person. Saying high IQ isn’t required of POTUS is not too smart.
Clinton – a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University
Obama – Harvard Law Review editor. As much as we don’t like lawyers, you have to be pretty smart to get there.Let’s be honest. Of the POTUS and POTUS candidates from the last 2 – 3 decades, Dems pretty much dominate GOP in the intelligence/IQ/achievement dept. Except Bush Sr.
I’m sure GOP (the party of rich, powerful, CEOs) can do better. Or does GOP just want someone as POTUS that rich and powerful can manipulate easily?[/quote]
First, can you tell me how Obama got into Harvard?
[/quote]Maybe he got good enough GPA in college and LSAT?
Participant[quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.[/quote]
Bush Jr – I don’t know many who think he got into Yale and Harvard because of his intelligence. It’s family connection don’t ya think? What was his GPA in Yale?
McCain – Not as bad as Bush but his ranking in Naval Academy was close to the last. And he wrecked 5 US Navy planes (granted one was in combat) before he was done with it.
Reagan – Actor. Enough said.
POTUS has to be a leader AND a pretty smart person. Saying high IQ isn’t required of POTUS is not too smart.
Clinton – a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University
Obama – Harvard Law Review editor. As much as we don’t like lawyers, you have to be pretty smart to get there.Let’s be honest. Of the POTUS and POTUS candidates from the last 2 – 3 decades, Dems pretty much dominate GOP in the intelligence/IQ/achievement dept. Except Bush Sr.
I’m sure GOP (the party of rich, powerful, CEOs) can do better. Or does GOP just want someone as POTUS that rich and powerful can manipulate easily?[/quote]
First, can you tell me how Obama got into Harvard?
[/quote]Maybe he got good enough GPA in college and LSAT?
Participant[quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.[/quote]
Bush Jr – I don’t know many who think he got into Yale and Harvard because of his intelligence. It’s family connection don’t ya think? What was his GPA in Yale?
McCain – Not as bad as Bush but his ranking in Naval Academy was close to the last. And he wrecked 5 US Navy planes (granted one was in combat) before he was done with it.
Reagan – Actor. Enough said.
POTUS has to be a leader AND a pretty smart person. Saying high IQ isn’t required of POTUS is not too smart.
Clinton – a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University
Obama – Harvard Law Review editor. As much as we don’t like lawyers, you have to be pretty smart to get there.Let’s be honest. Of the POTUS and POTUS candidates from the last 2 – 3 decades, Dems pretty much dominate GOP in the intelligence/IQ/achievement dept. Except Bush Sr.
I’m sure GOP (the party of rich, powerful, CEOs) can do better. Or does GOP just want someone as POTUS that rich and powerful can manipulate easily?[/quote]
First, can you tell me how Obama got into Harvard?
[/quote]Maybe he got good enough GPA in college and LSAT?
Participant[quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix][quote=dbapig][quote=felix]
Too many on the left seem to believe that anybody that doesn’t agree with them is not smart enough to know what is best for this country or even for oneself.[/quote]Replace the “LEFT” with “RIGHT”. It goes both ways.[/quote]
Perhaps, you’re correct on this but I only see the media portraying one-side as dumb.
The past few elections we have been told the Harvard educated; Clinton, Kerry and Obama were geniuses but Bush, McCain and even going back a ways, Reagan were dummies.
What’s ironic about this is that Bush is the only president we’ve ever had with degrees from both Harvard and Yale. Yet he has been portrayed as a idiot more so than any president in my lifetime.
Personally I don’t know who has the highest IQ nor do I care. One doesn’t have to be a genius to be a good president. One has to be a leader. And one has to surround himself with smart capable folks.
Lastly, there is another difference. Most conservative initiatives have been those of traditional values. They aren’t trying to reshape this country but to preserve our traditions. That usually meant less government intrusion into our lives instead of more.[/quote]
Bush Jr – I don’t know many who think he got into Yale and Harvard because of his intelligence. It’s family connection don’t ya think? What was his GPA in Yale?
McCain – Not as bad as Bush but his ranking in Naval Academy was close to the last. And he wrecked 5 US Navy planes (granted one was in combat) before he was done with it.
Reagan – Actor. Enough said.
POTUS has to be a leader AND a pretty smart person. Saying high IQ isn’t required of POTUS is not too smart.
Clinton – a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford University
Obama – Harvard Law Review editor. As much as we don’t like lawyers, you have to be pretty smart to get there.Let’s be honest. Of the POTUS and POTUS candidates from the last 2 – 3 decades, Dems pretty much dominate GOP in the intelligence/IQ/achievement dept. Except Bush Sr.
I’m sure GOP (the party of rich, powerful, CEOs) can do better. Or does GOP just want someone as POTUS that rich and powerful can manipulate easily?[/quote]
First, can you tell me how Obama got into Harvard?
[/quote]Maybe he got good enough GPA in college and LSAT?
Participant[quote=briansd1]Oath Keeper organizer is unemployed. I wonder what he’ll do when his health insurance runs out and his wife has cancer.
Stupid as stupid can be. I don’t think that it’s elitist to point that out.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oath-keepers18-2009sep18,0,6253659,full.storyThe family’s health insurance runs out at the one-year anniversary of his layoff from Alcoa. He said he would keep looking for a new job with benefits. But he won’t be looking for some big solution from Washington. “Socialized healthcare . . . It’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that I’m insured.”[/quote]
Mr. Cardwell was a USMC Sergeant. So he’s eligible for VA benefits. He’s already part of a big government solution. Instead of being given a chunk of cash and directed to find his own private health insurance for the sake of self-determination, he can go to ANY VA hospital.
I don’t know why he doesn’t mention it?
As for the laid-off salesman/gun-lover, I sympathize. I love guns as much as any dudes but he picked gun rights over health care. What will he do if he gets hurt while cleaning his guns and has no health insurance? Go to ER and not pay the bills I guess? What courage. applauds.
Participant[quote=briansd1]Oath Keeper organizer is unemployed. I wonder what he’ll do when his health insurance runs out and his wife has cancer.
Stupid as stupid can be. I don’t think that it’s elitist to point that out.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oath-keepers18-2009sep18,0,6253659,full.storyThe family’s health insurance runs out at the one-year anniversary of his layoff from Alcoa. He said he would keep looking for a new job with benefits. But he won’t be looking for some big solution from Washington. “Socialized healthcare . . . It’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that I’m insured.”[/quote]
Mr. Cardwell was a USMC Sergeant. So he’s eligible for VA benefits. He’s already part of a big government solution. Instead of being given a chunk of cash and directed to find his own private health insurance for the sake of self-determination, he can go to ANY VA hospital.
I don’t know why he doesn’t mention it?
As for the laid-off salesman/gun-lover, I sympathize. I love guns as much as any dudes but he picked gun rights over health care. What will he do if he gets hurt while cleaning his guns and has no health insurance? Go to ER and not pay the bills I guess? What courage. applauds.
Participant[quote=briansd1]Oath Keeper organizer is unemployed. I wonder what he’ll do when his health insurance runs out and his wife has cancer.
Stupid as stupid can be. I don’t think that it’s elitist to point that out.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oath-keepers18-2009sep18,0,6253659,full.storyThe family’s health insurance runs out at the one-year anniversary of his layoff from Alcoa. He said he would keep looking for a new job with benefits. But he won’t be looking for some big solution from Washington. “Socialized healthcare . . . It’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that I’m insured.”[/quote]
Mr. Cardwell was a USMC Sergeant. So he’s eligible for VA benefits. He’s already part of a big government solution. Instead of being given a chunk of cash and directed to find his own private health insurance for the sake of self-determination, he can go to ANY VA hospital.
I don’t know why he doesn’t mention it?
As for the laid-off salesman/gun-lover, I sympathize. I love guns as much as any dudes but he picked gun rights over health care. What will he do if he gets hurt while cleaning his guns and has no health insurance? Go to ER and not pay the bills I guess? What courage. applauds.
Participant[quote=briansd1]Oath Keeper organizer is unemployed. I wonder what he’ll do when his health insurance runs out and his wife has cancer.
Stupid as stupid can be. I don’t think that it’s elitist to point that out.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oath-keepers18-2009sep18,0,6253659,full.storyThe family’s health insurance runs out at the one-year anniversary of his layoff from Alcoa. He said he would keep looking for a new job with benefits. But he won’t be looking for some big solution from Washington. “Socialized healthcare . . . It’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that I’m insured.”[/quote]
Mr. Cardwell was a USMC Sergeant. So he’s eligible for VA benefits. He’s already part of a big government solution. Instead of being given a chunk of cash and directed to find his own private health insurance for the sake of self-determination, he can go to ANY VA hospital.
I don’t know why he doesn’t mention it?
As for the laid-off salesman/gun-lover, I sympathize. I love guns as much as any dudes but he picked gun rights over health care. What will he do if he gets hurt while cleaning his guns and has no health insurance? Go to ER and not pay the bills I guess? What courage. applauds.
Participant[quote=briansd1]Oath Keeper organizer is unemployed. I wonder what he’ll do when his health insurance runs out and his wife has cancer.
Stupid as stupid can be. I don’t think that it’s elitist to point that out.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oath-keepers18-2009sep18,0,6253659,full.storyThe family’s health insurance runs out at the one-year anniversary of his layoff from Alcoa. He said he would keep looking for a new job with benefits. But he won’t be looking for some big solution from Washington. “Socialized healthcare . . . It’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that I’m insured.”[/quote]
Mr. Cardwell was a USMC Sergeant. So he’s eligible for VA benefits. He’s already part of a big government solution. Instead of being given a chunk of cash and directed to find his own private health insurance for the sake of self-determination, he can go to ANY VA hospital.
I don’t know why he doesn’t mention it?
As for the laid-off salesman/gun-lover, I sympathize. I love guns as much as any dudes but he picked gun rights over health care. What will he do if he gets hurt while cleaning his guns and has no health insurance? Go to ER and not pay the bills I guess? What courage. applauds.
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