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Participant[quote=DWCAP][quote=afx114]…………..
So, yes, I am happy.[/quote]And where do you think all the money to pay for all this is coming from? Your family doesnt have the money to cover the costs associated with the health care they demand. Few persons have that money, so most pool their money with their co-worker and their company and get it that way. Your family doesnt have that option apparently, so they need a subsidy from someone else, or they dont get it. Simple as that. Nothing is free in this world, and you are happy because the government has decided to transfer weath from others to pay for your familys needs. Not suprising, most people would feel the same way. But dont be supprised when others are frustrated at the reduction in their quality of life for your families health care expenses.[/quote]
Who’s you daddy? Is he Bill Gates? If so, than yeah, no need to worry about not having health insurance. But of course you are not. What’s the goal of having ‘insurance’? It exists because MOST people don’t have the means to be prepared for any surprises in life such as car accidents/fire/illness.
What the bill does is reform health insurance, not setting up a Universal Health care. No?
You talk about quality of life going down. I assure you for those who couldn’t get health insurance (about 30 million?) their quality of life is going way up. And it’s not just for those who don’t have health insurance now but others who have them but have to worry about losing it when they somehow lose their jobs. One (very important) less thing to feel insecure about. I’d say quality of life is going up.
Participant[quote=DWCAP][quote=afx114]…………..
So, yes, I am happy.[/quote]And where do you think all the money to pay for all this is coming from? Your family doesnt have the money to cover the costs associated with the health care they demand. Few persons have that money, so most pool their money with their co-worker and their company and get it that way. Your family doesnt have that option apparently, so they need a subsidy from someone else, or they dont get it. Simple as that. Nothing is free in this world, and you are happy because the government has decided to transfer weath from others to pay for your familys needs. Not suprising, most people would feel the same way. But dont be supprised when others are frustrated at the reduction in their quality of life for your families health care expenses.[/quote]
Who’s you daddy? Is he Bill Gates? If so, than yeah, no need to worry about not having health insurance. But of course you are not. What’s the goal of having ‘insurance’? It exists because MOST people don’t have the means to be prepared for any surprises in life such as car accidents/fire/illness.
What the bill does is reform health insurance, not setting up a Universal Health care. No?
You talk about quality of life going down. I assure you for those who couldn’t get health insurance (about 30 million?) their quality of life is going way up. And it’s not just for those who don’t have health insurance now but others who have them but have to worry about losing it when they somehow lose their jobs. One (very important) less thing to feel insecure about. I’d say quality of life is going up.
Participant[quote=DWCAP][quote=afx114]…………..
So, yes, I am happy.[/quote]And where do you think all the money to pay for all this is coming from? Your family doesnt have the money to cover the costs associated with the health care they demand. Few persons have that money, so most pool their money with their co-worker and their company and get it that way. Your family doesnt have that option apparently, so they need a subsidy from someone else, or they dont get it. Simple as that. Nothing is free in this world, and you are happy because the government has decided to transfer weath from others to pay for your familys needs. Not suprising, most people would feel the same way. But dont be supprised when others are frustrated at the reduction in their quality of life for your families health care expenses.[/quote]
Who’s you daddy? Is he Bill Gates? If so, than yeah, no need to worry about not having health insurance. But of course you are not. What’s the goal of having ‘insurance’? It exists because MOST people don’t have the means to be prepared for any surprises in life such as car accidents/fire/illness.
What the bill does is reform health insurance, not setting up a Universal Health care. No?
You talk about quality of life going down. I assure you for those who couldn’t get health insurance (about 30 million?) their quality of life is going way up. And it’s not just for those who don’t have health insurance now but others who have them but have to worry about losing it when they somehow lose their jobs. One (very important) less thing to feel insecure about. I’d say quality of life is going up.
Participant[quote=DWCAP][quote=afx114]…………..
So, yes, I am happy.[/quote]And where do you think all the money to pay for all this is coming from? Your family doesnt have the money to cover the costs associated with the health care they demand. Few persons have that money, so most pool their money with their co-worker and their company and get it that way. Your family doesnt have that option apparently, so they need a subsidy from someone else, or they dont get it. Simple as that. Nothing is free in this world, and you are happy because the government has decided to transfer weath from others to pay for your familys needs. Not suprising, most people would feel the same way. But dont be supprised when others are frustrated at the reduction in their quality of life for your families health care expenses.[/quote]
Who’s you daddy? Is he Bill Gates? If so, than yeah, no need to worry about not having health insurance. But of course you are not. What’s the goal of having ‘insurance’? It exists because MOST people don’t have the means to be prepared for any surprises in life such as car accidents/fire/illness.
What the bill does is reform health insurance, not setting up a Universal Health care. No?
You talk about quality of life going down. I assure you for those who couldn’t get health insurance (about 30 million?) their quality of life is going way up. And it’s not just for those who don’t have health insurance now but others who have them but have to worry about losing it when they somehow lose their jobs. One (very important) less thing to feel insecure about. I’d say quality of life is going up.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=ucodegen]
It is a worthwhile question to ask: “why-should-I-pay-for-you?”. People need to be responsible for their own lives and should not expect others to take care of them and their irresponsible acts. Why should those that act responsibly be penalized? That said, there should be some way to cover those who are beset by circumstances beyond their control, but how do you tell that it was circumstances beyond their control vs. lack of responsibility in their behavior?[/quote]If we are going to think your way, we should first repeal the property taxes. Why should I pay for other people’s kids’ education?
Having babies is a choice that people make.
Parents should pay to send their kids to public schools. Only poor kids would get subsidized education.
I think that health care is more important than education.[/quote]
I personally think education is more important than health care. but anyhow, the questions by bob are just plain silly.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=ucodegen]
It is a worthwhile question to ask: “why-should-I-pay-for-you?”. People need to be responsible for their own lives and should not expect others to take care of them and their irresponsible acts. Why should those that act responsibly be penalized? That said, there should be some way to cover those who are beset by circumstances beyond their control, but how do you tell that it was circumstances beyond their control vs. lack of responsibility in their behavior?[/quote]If we are going to think your way, we should first repeal the property taxes. Why should I pay for other people’s kids’ education?
Having babies is a choice that people make.
Parents should pay to send their kids to public schools. Only poor kids would get subsidized education.
I think that health care is more important than education.[/quote]
I personally think education is more important than health care. but anyhow, the questions by bob are just plain silly.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=ucodegen]
It is a worthwhile question to ask: “why-should-I-pay-for-you?”. People need to be responsible for their own lives and should not expect others to take care of them and their irresponsible acts. Why should those that act responsibly be penalized? That said, there should be some way to cover those who are beset by circumstances beyond their control, but how do you tell that it was circumstances beyond their control vs. lack of responsibility in their behavior?[/quote]If we are going to think your way, we should first repeal the property taxes. Why should I pay for other people’s kids’ education?
Having babies is a choice that people make.
Parents should pay to send their kids to public schools. Only poor kids would get subsidized education.
I think that health care is more important than education.[/quote]
I personally think education is more important than health care. but anyhow, the questions by bob are just plain silly.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=ucodegen]
It is a worthwhile question to ask: “why-should-I-pay-for-you?”. People need to be responsible for their own lives and should not expect others to take care of them and their irresponsible acts. Why should those that act responsibly be penalized? That said, there should be some way to cover those who are beset by circumstances beyond their control, but how do you tell that it was circumstances beyond their control vs. lack of responsibility in their behavior?[/quote]If we are going to think your way, we should first repeal the property taxes. Why should I pay for other people’s kids’ education?
Having babies is a choice that people make.
Parents should pay to send their kids to public schools. Only poor kids would get subsidized education.
I think that health care is more important than education.[/quote]
I personally think education is more important than health care. but anyhow, the questions by bob are just plain silly.
Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=ucodegen]
It is a worthwhile question to ask: “why-should-I-pay-for-you?”. People need to be responsible for their own lives and should not expect others to take care of them and their irresponsible acts. Why should those that act responsibly be penalized? That said, there should be some way to cover those who are beset by circumstances beyond their control, but how do you tell that it was circumstances beyond their control vs. lack of responsibility in their behavior?[/quote]If we are going to think your way, we should first repeal the property taxes. Why should I pay for other people’s kids’ education?
Having babies is a choice that people make.
Parents should pay to send their kids to public schools. Only poor kids would get subsidized education.
I think that health care is more important than education.[/quote]
I personally think education is more important than health care. but anyhow, the questions by bob are just plain silly.
Participant[quote=bob2007]Why do I have to pay for you? You made your own decisions that have taken you to where you are in life. Maybe you didn’t create the illness (maybe you did), but you did make choices that affect how much you make. Health care is not a right. When it starts to degrade who will you complain to then?[/quote]
Well, bob2007, since you will make your own decisions that will put you in a fortunate position of being able to have personal doctor/nurse or fly to any other state or nation on a minute notice when necessary for your medical needs, you have nothing to worry about.
What’s that I hear you say? You DON’T have the means to have your own doctor/nurse caring for you? Well, you shouldn’t complain since YOU MADE YOUR OWN DECISIONS where you CAN’T have your own doctor/nurse.
Participant[quote=bob2007]Why do I have to pay for you? You made your own decisions that have taken you to where you are in life. Maybe you didn’t create the illness (maybe you did), but you did make choices that affect how much you make. Health care is not a right. When it starts to degrade who will you complain to then?[/quote]
Well, bob2007, since you will make your own decisions that will put you in a fortunate position of being able to have personal doctor/nurse or fly to any other state or nation on a minute notice when necessary for your medical needs, you have nothing to worry about.
What’s that I hear you say? You DON’T have the means to have your own doctor/nurse caring for you? Well, you shouldn’t complain since YOU MADE YOUR OWN DECISIONS where you CAN’T have your own doctor/nurse.
Participant[quote=bob2007]Why do I have to pay for you? You made your own decisions that have taken you to where you are in life. Maybe you didn’t create the illness (maybe you did), but you did make choices that affect how much you make. Health care is not a right. When it starts to degrade who will you complain to then?[/quote]
Well, bob2007, since you will make your own decisions that will put you in a fortunate position of being able to have personal doctor/nurse or fly to any other state or nation on a minute notice when necessary for your medical needs, you have nothing to worry about.
What’s that I hear you say? You DON’T have the means to have your own doctor/nurse caring for you? Well, you shouldn’t complain since YOU MADE YOUR OWN DECISIONS where you CAN’T have your own doctor/nurse.
Participant[quote=bob2007]Why do I have to pay for you? You made your own decisions that have taken you to where you are in life. Maybe you didn’t create the illness (maybe you did), but you did make choices that affect how much you make. Health care is not a right. When it starts to degrade who will you complain to then?[/quote]
Well, bob2007, since you will make your own decisions that will put you in a fortunate position of being able to have personal doctor/nurse or fly to any other state or nation on a minute notice when necessary for your medical needs, you have nothing to worry about.
What’s that I hear you say? You DON’T have the means to have your own doctor/nurse caring for you? Well, you shouldn’t complain since YOU MADE YOUR OWN DECISIONS where you CAN’T have your own doctor/nurse.
Participant[quote=bob2007]Why do I have to pay for you? You made your own decisions that have taken you to where you are in life. Maybe you didn’t create the illness (maybe you did), but you did make choices that affect how much you make. Health care is not a right. When it starts to degrade who will you complain to then?[/quote]
Well, bob2007, since you will make your own decisions that will put you in a fortunate position of being able to have personal doctor/nurse or fly to any other state or nation on a minute notice when necessary for your medical needs, you have nothing to worry about.
What’s that I hear you say? You DON’T have the means to have your own doctor/nurse caring for you? Well, you shouldn’t complain since YOU MADE YOUR OWN DECISIONS where you CAN’T have your own doctor/nurse.
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