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davelj
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote davelj]
Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!).
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So that is what all the noise is! And you didn’t bother to get me two as well!!(female Argentine strippers that is).Geesh, I’m going to go and stomp off in a huff like a 10-year old…[/quote]
My deepest apologies. Rain check. I owe you two (Argentinian strippers, that is).
davelj
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote davelj]
Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!).
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So that is what all the noise is! And you didn’t bother to get me two as well!!(female Argentine strippers that is).Geesh, I’m going to go and stomp off in a huff like a 10-year old…[/quote]
My deepest apologies. Rain check. I owe you two (Argentinian strippers, that is).
davelj
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote davelj]
Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!).
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So that is what all the noise is! And you didn’t bother to get me two as well!!(female Argentine strippers that is).Geesh, I’m going to go and stomp off in a huff like a 10-year old…[/quote]
My deepest apologies. Rain check. I owe you two (Argentinian strippers, that is).
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
SV CV gets a pass? Are you sure you guys aren’t just holding hands and kissing in the back?
[/quote]Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!). I was going to invite you but I thought you’d be too busy with all of the important meetings with other billionaire “investors”. Next time, though.
[quote=investor]
My degrees are NOT in finance.
[/quote]Right. We understand that part now. They don’t exist.
[quote=investor]
But, I only brought them up in response to the two entries from Allen and SV CV from the Federal Reserve post.
[/quote]Right. The Federal Reserve post from… what… five months back? What, you didn’t remember that you had your PhD’s back then? Or you’ve purchased them from a diploma mill in the interim?
[quote=investor]
But as Allen said in the Federal Reserve post, you do not need to have a degree in finance in order to understand the Federal Reserve. Don’t make me find that one two (Allen, SV CV, davelj, lookie, lookie he did it again!!!)I don’t want to reveal them for fear of some of you jerk-offs not respecting someone else’s privacy, not one bit
.[/quote]Look, we all know there’s nothing to reveal. They don’t exist. Hasn’t this charade gone on long enough? Well I, for one, hope not!!
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
SV CV gets a pass? Are you sure you guys aren’t just holding hands and kissing in the back?
[/quote]Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!). I was going to invite you but I thought you’d be too busy with all of the important meetings with other billionaire “investors”. Next time, though.
[quote=investor]
My degrees are NOT in finance.
[/quote]Right. We understand that part now. They don’t exist.
[quote=investor]
But, I only brought them up in response to the two entries from Allen and SV CV from the Federal Reserve post.
[/quote]Right. The Federal Reserve post from… what… five months back? What, you didn’t remember that you had your PhD’s back then? Or you’ve purchased them from a diploma mill in the interim?
[quote=investor]
But as Allen said in the Federal Reserve post, you do not need to have a degree in finance in order to understand the Federal Reserve. Don’t make me find that one two (Allen, SV CV, davelj, lookie, lookie he did it again!!!)I don’t want to reveal them for fear of some of you jerk-offs not respecting someone else’s privacy, not one bit
.[/quote]Look, we all know there’s nothing to reveal. They don’t exist. Hasn’t this charade gone on long enough? Well I, for one, hope not!!
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
SV CV gets a pass? Are you sure you guys aren’t just holding hands and kissing in the back?
[/quote]Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!). I was going to invite you but I thought you’d be too busy with all of the important meetings with other billionaire “investors”. Next time, though.
[quote=investor]
My degrees are NOT in finance.
[/quote]Right. We understand that part now. They don’t exist.
[quote=investor]
But, I only brought them up in response to the two entries from Allen and SV CV from the Federal Reserve post.
[/quote]Right. The Federal Reserve post from… what… five months back? What, you didn’t remember that you had your PhD’s back then? Or you’ve purchased them from a diploma mill in the interim?
[quote=investor]
But as Allen said in the Federal Reserve post, you do not need to have a degree in finance in order to understand the Federal Reserve. Don’t make me find that one two (Allen, SV CV, davelj, lookie, lookie he did it again!!!)I don’t want to reveal them for fear of some of you jerk-offs not respecting someone else’s privacy, not one bit
.[/quote]Look, we all know there’s nothing to reveal. They don’t exist. Hasn’t this charade gone on long enough? Well I, for one, hope not!!
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
SV CV gets a pass? Are you sure you guys aren’t just holding hands and kissing in the back?
[/quote]Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!). I was going to invite you but I thought you’d be too busy with all of the important meetings with other billionaire “investors”. Next time, though.
[quote=investor]
My degrees are NOT in finance.
[/quote]Right. We understand that part now. They don’t exist.
[quote=investor]
But, I only brought them up in response to the two entries from Allen and SV CV from the Federal Reserve post.
[/quote]Right. The Federal Reserve post from… what… five months back? What, you didn’t remember that you had your PhD’s back then? Or you’ve purchased them from a diploma mill in the interim?
[quote=investor]
But as Allen said in the Federal Reserve post, you do not need to have a degree in finance in order to understand the Federal Reserve. Don’t make me find that one two (Allen, SV CV, davelj, lookie, lookie he did it again!!!)I don’t want to reveal them for fear of some of you jerk-offs not respecting someone else’s privacy, not one bit
.[/quote]Look, we all know there’s nothing to reveal. They don’t exist. Hasn’t this charade gone on long enough? Well I, for one, hope not!!
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
SV CV gets a pass? Are you sure you guys aren’t just holding hands and kissing in the back?
[/quote]Actually it’s a full-fledged orgy. Me, Allan, SK and six (female!) strippers from Argentina (sorry guys, I just couldn’t keep it a secret any longer!). I was going to invite you but I thought you’d be too busy with all of the important meetings with other billionaire “investors”. Next time, though.
[quote=investor]
My degrees are NOT in finance.
[/quote]Right. We understand that part now. They don’t exist.
[quote=investor]
But, I only brought them up in response to the two entries from Allen and SV CV from the Federal Reserve post.
[/quote]Right. The Federal Reserve post from… what… five months back? What, you didn’t remember that you had your PhD’s back then? Or you’ve purchased them from a diploma mill in the interim?
[quote=investor]
But as Allen said in the Federal Reserve post, you do not need to have a degree in finance in order to understand the Federal Reserve. Don’t make me find that one two (Allen, SV CV, davelj, lookie, lookie he did it again!!!)I don’t want to reveal them for fear of some of you jerk-offs not respecting someone else’s privacy, not one bit
.[/quote]Look, we all know there’s nothing to reveal. They don’t exist. Hasn’t this charade gone on long enough? Well I, for one, hope not!!
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
I didn’t bring up credentials first. SV from CV and Allen from Fallbrook did, as I have said. You made me go back and prove you wrong. I wasted my time doing so. Will you say that you were wrong or will you try to wiggle out of it? (I know that you did not give out credentials but the three of you are siblings anyway.)I thought so.[/quote]SK from CV brought up his CPA credentials in the context of an issue that related to accounting. He was offering up his experience as part of the reply. So, he gets a pass.
Allan from Fallbrook brought up my and SK from CV’s credentials – he did NOT bring up HIS OWN. Now that may not have been the strongest part of his argument but, again, he was referencing OTHERS.
YOU, on the other hand, offered up YOUR OWN fictional PhD’s as proof of your own Mr. Smartypantsedness, and completely out of context of the discussion at hand. It was merely thrown out there as if to say, “And neener neener neener – I’m smarter than both of you combined because of all of my fancy edumacation.”
Please tell me you see the difference.
And, since you want to keep this going, tell us what your two fictional PhD’s have to do with banking and finance, which is the topic of discussion here.
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
I didn’t bring up credentials first. SV from CV and Allen from Fallbrook did, as I have said. You made me go back and prove you wrong. I wasted my time doing so. Will you say that you were wrong or will you try to wiggle out of it? (I know that you did not give out credentials but the three of you are siblings anyway.)I thought so.[/quote]SK from CV brought up his CPA credentials in the context of an issue that related to accounting. He was offering up his experience as part of the reply. So, he gets a pass.
Allan from Fallbrook brought up my and SK from CV’s credentials – he did NOT bring up HIS OWN. Now that may not have been the strongest part of his argument but, again, he was referencing OTHERS.
YOU, on the other hand, offered up YOUR OWN fictional PhD’s as proof of your own Mr. Smartypantsedness, and completely out of context of the discussion at hand. It was merely thrown out there as if to say, “And neener neener neener – I’m smarter than both of you combined because of all of my fancy edumacation.”
Please tell me you see the difference.
And, since you want to keep this going, tell us what your two fictional PhD’s have to do with banking and finance, which is the topic of discussion here.
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
I didn’t bring up credentials first. SV from CV and Allen from Fallbrook did, as I have said. You made me go back and prove you wrong. I wasted my time doing so. Will you say that you were wrong or will you try to wiggle out of it? (I know that you did not give out credentials but the three of you are siblings anyway.)I thought so.[/quote]SK from CV brought up his CPA credentials in the context of an issue that related to accounting. He was offering up his experience as part of the reply. So, he gets a pass.
Allan from Fallbrook brought up my and SK from CV’s credentials – he did NOT bring up HIS OWN. Now that may not have been the strongest part of his argument but, again, he was referencing OTHERS.
YOU, on the other hand, offered up YOUR OWN fictional PhD’s as proof of your own Mr. Smartypantsedness, and completely out of context of the discussion at hand. It was merely thrown out there as if to say, “And neener neener neener – I’m smarter than both of you combined because of all of my fancy edumacation.”
Please tell me you see the difference.
And, since you want to keep this going, tell us what your two fictional PhD’s have to do with banking and finance, which is the topic of discussion here.
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
I didn’t bring up credentials first. SV from CV and Allen from Fallbrook did, as I have said. You made me go back and prove you wrong. I wasted my time doing so. Will you say that you were wrong or will you try to wiggle out of it? (I know that you did not give out credentials but the three of you are siblings anyway.)I thought so.[/quote]SK from CV brought up his CPA credentials in the context of an issue that related to accounting. He was offering up his experience as part of the reply. So, he gets a pass.
Allan from Fallbrook brought up my and SK from CV’s credentials – he did NOT bring up HIS OWN. Now that may not have been the strongest part of his argument but, again, he was referencing OTHERS.
YOU, on the other hand, offered up YOUR OWN fictional PhD’s as proof of your own Mr. Smartypantsedness, and completely out of context of the discussion at hand. It was merely thrown out there as if to say, “And neener neener neener – I’m smarter than both of you combined because of all of my fancy edumacation.”
Please tell me you see the difference.
And, since you want to keep this going, tell us what your two fictional PhD’s have to do with banking and finance, which is the topic of discussion here.
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
I didn’t bring up credentials first. SV from CV and Allen from Fallbrook did, as I have said. You made me go back and prove you wrong. I wasted my time doing so. Will you say that you were wrong or will you try to wiggle out of it? (I know that you did not give out credentials but the three of you are siblings anyway.)I thought so.[/quote]SK from CV brought up his CPA credentials in the context of an issue that related to accounting. He was offering up his experience as part of the reply. So, he gets a pass.
Allan from Fallbrook brought up my and SK from CV’s credentials – he did NOT bring up HIS OWN. Now that may not have been the strongest part of his argument but, again, he was referencing OTHERS.
YOU, on the other hand, offered up YOUR OWN fictional PhD’s as proof of your own Mr. Smartypantsedness, and completely out of context of the discussion at hand. It was merely thrown out there as if to say, “And neener neener neener – I’m smarter than both of you combined because of all of my fancy edumacation.”
Please tell me you see the difference.
And, since you want to keep this going, tell us what your two fictional PhD’s have to do with banking and finance, which is the topic of discussion here.
davelj
Participant[quote=aldante]Davelj – you get my vote for winning the war of words. But……
I simply can not resist. Sorry. Why can these wise men who are so educated not have predicted what would happen? I am just a layman but is it not true that successfull prediction is ultimate goal of science? More to my point. No defense of Griffin but please explain Allan or Davij:[/quote]The ultimate goal of science is discovery. I don’t know whether “successful prediction” has much to do with it. Although it’s called a “science,” I personally don’t view economics as a “science.” But that’s just me. Just because it involves math doesn’t make it a science.
[quote=aldante]
The President of Harvard Larry Summers (he has some degrees right?) shoots down Broksey Born as to her pointing out the need to regulate derivitives in the late 90’s…Alan Greenspan (“smartest economist in country?”) stands right along side of Larry Summers and says the same. He also writes paper after paper telling us plebes that real estate always goes up. That the”wealth effect” will change mankind forever… Ben Bernanke – in May 2008 tells the American Plebes not to worry about Freddie and Fannie…[/quote]You will find precious little defense from me in these threads regarding the actions of Summers, Greenspan, Bernanke, et al., so I really don’t know what to say to you here. I’m not sure there’s a strong correlation between “high education” and fundamental “good decision-making.”
[quote=aldante]
Then look at the “second tier” who did predict with accuracy…Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Meredith Whitney, Noriel Roubini, Marc Faber, Gerald Celente? [/quote]Smart folks who got it right (although I know nothing about Celente, to be clear). And three PhD’s between them, as well. Just for the record.
[quote=aldante]
Sorry guys but I think the reason for support Griffin is receiving is becasue the “other”guys are inept.[/quote]Fine, but that’s a logical fallacy. Just because certain others are inept tells us NOTHING about Griffin.
[quote=aldante]
And I must say your defense of the fractional reserve banking system seems to ignore these above points. [/quote]Actually it doesn’t. The only person you’ve cited above who has a problem with the fractional reserve system – in general terms – is Ron Paul. The others have an issue with how the system is administered, not the system itself. And I generally AGREE with their criticisms.
[quote=aldante]
How about this one for you?How many innocent babies and wifes would be killed by errant “smart” missles and bombs in far away lands with out the Fractional Reserve banking system? How about American sons and daughters – and their loved ones? Yes I am drawing a direct link to our supposed wealth and our ability to build bombs with our “Federal” Reserve system. We could not afford 10 YEARS in Afghanistan without the Federal Reserve. What if your taxes had to go up to pay for that war? I think we would see massive rebellion in this country if they did.
It is possible that this was never a conspiracy from the beginning but right now it looks and feels like a bunch of frat boys are running the show. These guys have known each other (or of each other) and know which rules to take advantage of and which to hide behind. Long term thye seem much less concerned about their duties as public servants and more concerned about their egos/wealth. I don’t trust them at all. I have a reaction anytime some one defends them also. Sorry for the rant but it just came out.[/quote]
Yeah, this last part is kind of a political rant that I don’t have any opinion on. You’ve covered too much ground here for me to state a brief opinion.
But to get back to the original point, I don’t have any great problem with the fractional reserve system in general. But I have a big problem with the manner in which it has been administered – problems exacerbated by the likes of Greenspan, Bernanke, Summers, et al. But let’s not confuse the two issues. And, more on topic, none of this has anything to do with the legitimacy of Edward Griffin. In this debate, both Greenspan and Griffin can be quacks. It’s not a mutually exclusive condition.
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