Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
October 14, 2010 at 3:06 PM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618220October 14, 2010 at 3:06 PM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618771
davelj
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=davelj]What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place?[/quote]
Wasn’t it a good time to BUY or SELL a building ?[/quote]
Good point. Fits in with:
Brokerage Axiom #1: It’s always a good time to buy or sell any asset on which a commission is being paid.
Brokerage Axiom #2: If in doubt, refer to Axiom #1.
October 14, 2010 at 3:06 PM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618890davelj
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=davelj]What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place?[/quote]
Wasn’t it a good time to BUY or SELL a building ?[/quote]
Good point. Fits in with:
Brokerage Axiom #1: It’s always a good time to buy or sell any asset on which a commission is being paid.
Brokerage Axiom #2: If in doubt, refer to Axiom #1.
October 14, 2010 at 3:06 PM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #619208davelj
Participant[quote=sdduuuude][quote=davelj]What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place?[/quote]
Wasn’t it a good time to BUY or SELL a building ?[/quote]
Good point. Fits in with:
Brokerage Axiom #1: It’s always a good time to buy or sell any asset on which a commission is being paid.
Brokerage Axiom #2: If in doubt, refer to Axiom #1.
davelj
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
(And as context and to emphasize that first point, I think that a huge portion of the financial industry serves only as a giant parasite on the productive economy, and that the financial industry bailout has been/continues to be an economic and moral catastrophe).[/quote]
I agree with this but I’m going to provide a (partial) defense for it nonetheless.
My basic argument is that: A lot of people love the Parasite. They may not realize it, but they do. Allow me to explain with an anecdote.
Arguably, active asset management is one clear example of the parasitical nature of the financial industry. Very few managers outperform on a risk-adjusted basis after fees. So, there’s this huge stream of fees that goes into the financial industry’s hands that’s not productive. But do a lot of folks actually get something of value out of it? I’d argue they do. What, you may ask. In a word: Hope. Most people think they can find that one or handful of managers that will outperform. And the hope that they will find or have found such a manager gives them warm feelings about the future not unlike those experienced by someone walking up to a black jack table. And when they go to sleep, they dream of how well their manager is going to do relative to the rest. And it makes them smile. And they go to sleep, wake up, rinse and repeat. In other words, while much of the financial industry doesn’t provide real tangible benefits to folks, it provides a lot of “psychic benefits” via hopes and dreams. How do you place a value on such psychic benefits? Well, you can’t. And that’s the beauty of it.
So, on the one hand, I agree that there’s a shitpile of “waste” in the financial industry. On the other hand, people still clamor to participate because, well, they always think it’s the other (stupid) people who are actually paying for most of it, because “their” managers/advisors are the “good ones.” And this gives them hope and makes them feel superior. And who can put a value on that?
davelj
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
(And as context and to emphasize that first point, I think that a huge portion of the financial industry serves only as a giant parasite on the productive economy, and that the financial industry bailout has been/continues to be an economic and moral catastrophe).[/quote]
I agree with this but I’m going to provide a (partial) defense for it nonetheless.
My basic argument is that: A lot of people love the Parasite. They may not realize it, but they do. Allow me to explain with an anecdote.
Arguably, active asset management is one clear example of the parasitical nature of the financial industry. Very few managers outperform on a risk-adjusted basis after fees. So, there’s this huge stream of fees that goes into the financial industry’s hands that’s not productive. But do a lot of folks actually get something of value out of it? I’d argue they do. What, you may ask. In a word: Hope. Most people think they can find that one or handful of managers that will outperform. And the hope that they will find or have found such a manager gives them warm feelings about the future not unlike those experienced by someone walking up to a black jack table. And when they go to sleep, they dream of how well their manager is going to do relative to the rest. And it makes them smile. And they go to sleep, wake up, rinse and repeat. In other words, while much of the financial industry doesn’t provide real tangible benefits to folks, it provides a lot of “psychic benefits” via hopes and dreams. How do you place a value on such psychic benefits? Well, you can’t. And that’s the beauty of it.
So, on the one hand, I agree that there’s a shitpile of “waste” in the financial industry. On the other hand, people still clamor to participate because, well, they always think it’s the other (stupid) people who are actually paying for most of it, because “their” managers/advisors are the “good ones.” And this gives them hope and makes them feel superior. And who can put a value on that?
davelj
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
(And as context and to emphasize that first point, I think that a huge portion of the financial industry serves only as a giant parasite on the productive economy, and that the financial industry bailout has been/continues to be an economic and moral catastrophe).[/quote]
I agree with this but I’m going to provide a (partial) defense for it nonetheless.
My basic argument is that: A lot of people love the Parasite. They may not realize it, but they do. Allow me to explain with an anecdote.
Arguably, active asset management is one clear example of the parasitical nature of the financial industry. Very few managers outperform on a risk-adjusted basis after fees. So, there’s this huge stream of fees that goes into the financial industry’s hands that’s not productive. But do a lot of folks actually get something of value out of it? I’d argue they do. What, you may ask. In a word: Hope. Most people think they can find that one or handful of managers that will outperform. And the hope that they will find or have found such a manager gives them warm feelings about the future not unlike those experienced by someone walking up to a black jack table. And when they go to sleep, they dream of how well their manager is going to do relative to the rest. And it makes them smile. And they go to sleep, wake up, rinse and repeat. In other words, while much of the financial industry doesn’t provide real tangible benefits to folks, it provides a lot of “psychic benefits” via hopes and dreams. How do you place a value on such psychic benefits? Well, you can’t. And that’s the beauty of it.
So, on the one hand, I agree that there’s a shitpile of “waste” in the financial industry. On the other hand, people still clamor to participate because, well, they always think it’s the other (stupid) people who are actually paying for most of it, because “their” managers/advisors are the “good ones.” And this gives them hope and makes them feel superior. And who can put a value on that?
davelj
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
(And as context and to emphasize that first point, I think that a huge portion of the financial industry serves only as a giant parasite on the productive economy, and that the financial industry bailout has been/continues to be an economic and moral catastrophe).[/quote]
I agree with this but I’m going to provide a (partial) defense for it nonetheless.
My basic argument is that: A lot of people love the Parasite. They may not realize it, but they do. Allow me to explain with an anecdote.
Arguably, active asset management is one clear example of the parasitical nature of the financial industry. Very few managers outperform on a risk-adjusted basis after fees. So, there’s this huge stream of fees that goes into the financial industry’s hands that’s not productive. But do a lot of folks actually get something of value out of it? I’d argue they do. What, you may ask. In a word: Hope. Most people think they can find that one or handful of managers that will outperform. And the hope that they will find or have found such a manager gives them warm feelings about the future not unlike those experienced by someone walking up to a black jack table. And when they go to sleep, they dream of how well their manager is going to do relative to the rest. And it makes them smile. And they go to sleep, wake up, rinse and repeat. In other words, while much of the financial industry doesn’t provide real tangible benefits to folks, it provides a lot of “psychic benefits” via hopes and dreams. How do you place a value on such psychic benefits? Well, you can’t. And that’s the beauty of it.
So, on the one hand, I agree that there’s a shitpile of “waste” in the financial industry. On the other hand, people still clamor to participate because, well, they always think it’s the other (stupid) people who are actually paying for most of it, because “their” managers/advisors are the “good ones.” And this gives them hope and makes them feel superior. And who can put a value on that?
davelj
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
(And as context and to emphasize that first point, I think that a huge portion of the financial industry serves only as a giant parasite on the productive economy, and that the financial industry bailout has been/continues to be an economic and moral catastrophe).[/quote]
I agree with this but I’m going to provide a (partial) defense for it nonetheless.
My basic argument is that: A lot of people love the Parasite. They may not realize it, but they do. Allow me to explain with an anecdote.
Arguably, active asset management is one clear example of the parasitical nature of the financial industry. Very few managers outperform on a risk-adjusted basis after fees. So, there’s this huge stream of fees that goes into the financial industry’s hands that’s not productive. But do a lot of folks actually get something of value out of it? I’d argue they do. What, you may ask. In a word: Hope. Most people think they can find that one or handful of managers that will outperform. And the hope that they will find or have found such a manager gives them warm feelings about the future not unlike those experienced by someone walking up to a black jack table. And when they go to sleep, they dream of how well their manager is going to do relative to the rest. And it makes them smile. And they go to sleep, wake up, rinse and repeat. In other words, while much of the financial industry doesn’t provide real tangible benefits to folks, it provides a lot of “psychic benefits” via hopes and dreams. How do you place a value on such psychic benefits? Well, you can’t. And that’s the beauty of it.
So, on the one hand, I agree that there’s a shitpile of “waste” in the financial industry. On the other hand, people still clamor to participate because, well, they always think it’s the other (stupid) people who are actually paying for most of it, because “their” managers/advisors are the “good ones.” And this gives them hope and makes them feel superior. And who can put a value on that?
October 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #617922davelj
ParticipantHysterical. And yet, predictable. It’s perfect, really – the MBA decides to buy a building at the height of the bubble and then when membership drops like a lead zeppelin, they default. What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place? It’s ludicrous. What a bunch of total douchebags. Whoever was involved in the decision to buy the building should be unceremoniously shit-canned. And then flogged in public.
October 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618007davelj
ParticipantHysterical. And yet, predictable. It’s perfect, really – the MBA decides to buy a building at the height of the bubble and then when membership drops like a lead zeppelin, they default. What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place? It’s ludicrous. What a bunch of total douchebags. Whoever was involved in the decision to buy the building should be unceremoniously shit-canned. And then flogged in public.
October 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618556davelj
ParticipantHysterical. And yet, predictable. It’s perfect, really – the MBA decides to buy a building at the height of the bubble and then when membership drops like a lead zeppelin, they default. What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place? It’s ludicrous. What a bunch of total douchebags. Whoever was involved in the decision to buy the building should be unceremoniously shit-canned. And then flogged in public.
October 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618676davelj
ParticipantHysterical. And yet, predictable. It’s perfect, really – the MBA decides to buy a building at the height of the bubble and then when membership drops like a lead zeppelin, they default. What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place? It’s ludicrous. What a bunch of total douchebags. Whoever was involved in the decision to buy the building should be unceremoniously shit-canned. And then flogged in public.
October 14, 2010 at 9:54 AM in reply to: Daily Show – Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults #618996davelj
ParticipantHysterical. And yet, predictable. It’s perfect, really – the MBA decides to buy a building at the height of the bubble and then when membership drops like a lead zeppelin, they default. What business does a professional association have BUYING a fucking building in the first place? It’s ludicrous. What a bunch of total douchebags. Whoever was involved in the decision to buy the building should be unceremoniously shit-canned. And then flogged in public.
davelj
Participant[quote=investor]
I have a nick name for davelj, Dave who Loves to Jump to conclusions.[/quote][quote=investor]
By the way, your nick name is “creep who left”. congrats![/quote]How many people with two doctorates resort to this kind of name calling on the internet? What are the odds? Those are rhetorical questions, to be clear.
-
AuthorPosts
