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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Unlike private unions, public unions aren’t “bargaining” or “negotiating” with anyone. The politicians who vote for these sweet deals are sitting on the SAME SIDE of the table as the unions. This is vote buying, pure and simple. Wisconsin is not some bellwether state, blazing a new trail and seeking to bust unions. Only half the states have a collective-bargaining agreement in place, and there is plenty of data to support the fact that the states that don’t, like Virginia or Indiana, are in fact able to deliver effective services and at a lower cost.
[/quote]And therein lies the problem. The adversarial relationship that exists between private unions and their employers does not exist between municipal unions and those they are negotiating with. They are sleeping in the same bed. And in most cases the negotiators for the taxpayers are in line for even larger pensions than the union members. That is why we end up with these ridiculous contracts with benefits and retirement packages virtually unheard of in private industry. It’s also why so many states don’t allow collective bargaining for their municipal unions. It’s a recipe for fiscal disaster.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Unlike private unions, public unions aren’t “bargaining” or “negotiating” with anyone. The politicians who vote for these sweet deals are sitting on the SAME SIDE of the table as the unions. This is vote buying, pure and simple. Wisconsin is not some bellwether state, blazing a new trail and seeking to bust unions. Only half the states have a collective-bargaining agreement in place, and there is plenty of data to support the fact that the states that don’t, like Virginia or Indiana, are in fact able to deliver effective services and at a lower cost.
[/quote]And therein lies the problem. The adversarial relationship that exists between private unions and their employers does not exist between municipal unions and those they are negotiating with. They are sleeping in the same bed. And in most cases the negotiators for the taxpayers are in line for even larger pensions than the union members. That is why we end up with these ridiculous contracts with benefits and retirement packages virtually unheard of in private industry. It’s also why so many states don’t allow collective bargaining for their municipal unions. It’s a recipe for fiscal disaster.
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Unlike private unions, public unions aren’t “bargaining” or “negotiating” with anyone. The politicians who vote for these sweet deals are sitting on the SAME SIDE of the table as the unions. This is vote buying, pure and simple. Wisconsin is not some bellwether state, blazing a new trail and seeking to bust unions. Only half the states have a collective-bargaining agreement in place, and there is plenty of data to support the fact that the states that don’t, like Virginia or Indiana, are in fact able to deliver effective services and at a lower cost.
[/quote]And therein lies the problem. The adversarial relationship that exists between private unions and their employers does not exist between municipal unions and those they are negotiating with. They are sleeping in the same bed. And in most cases the negotiators for the taxpayers are in line for even larger pensions than the union members. That is why we end up with these ridiculous contracts with benefits and retirement packages virtually unheard of in private industry. It’s also why so many states don’t allow collective bargaining for their municipal unions. It’s a recipe for fiscal disaster.
Participant[quote=Jazzman]I wouldn’t take the Piccadilly line. It stops all the way into central London and will take forever. Most take the Heathrow Express which stops at Paddington Station. From there it’s a 15 minute cab ride to Euston. [/quote]
That’s a good option. It will save you about 25 minutes getting to Euston, but… the cost for two tickets will be 36 GBP plus the cab will be another 10 GBP. So, you’re in for about 35 GBP ($55 US) more than taking the tube. Which might make good sense depending on how you value your time. Personally, I actually enjoy taking the tube (the world’s finest big city public transportation system, in my opinion)… but that’s just me.
Participant[quote=Jazzman]I wouldn’t take the Piccadilly line. It stops all the way into central London and will take forever. Most take the Heathrow Express which stops at Paddington Station. From there it’s a 15 minute cab ride to Euston. [/quote]
That’s a good option. It will save you about 25 minutes getting to Euston, but… the cost for two tickets will be 36 GBP plus the cab will be another 10 GBP. So, you’re in for about 35 GBP ($55 US) more than taking the tube. Which might make good sense depending on how you value your time. Personally, I actually enjoy taking the tube (the world’s finest big city public transportation system, in my opinion)… but that’s just me.
Participant[quote=Jazzman]I wouldn’t take the Piccadilly line. It stops all the way into central London and will take forever. Most take the Heathrow Express which stops at Paddington Station. From there it’s a 15 minute cab ride to Euston. [/quote]
That’s a good option. It will save you about 25 minutes getting to Euston, but… the cost for two tickets will be 36 GBP plus the cab will be another 10 GBP. So, you’re in for about 35 GBP ($55 US) more than taking the tube. Which might make good sense depending on how you value your time. Personally, I actually enjoy taking the tube (the world’s finest big city public transportation system, in my opinion)… but that’s just me.
Participant[quote=Jazzman]I wouldn’t take the Piccadilly line. It stops all the way into central London and will take forever. Most take the Heathrow Express which stops at Paddington Station. From there it’s a 15 minute cab ride to Euston. [/quote]
That’s a good option. It will save you about 25 minutes getting to Euston, but… the cost for two tickets will be 36 GBP plus the cab will be another 10 GBP. So, you’re in for about 35 GBP ($55 US) more than taking the tube. Which might make good sense depending on how you value your time. Personally, I actually enjoy taking the tube (the world’s finest big city public transportation system, in my opinion)… but that’s just me.
Participant[quote=Jazzman]I wouldn’t take the Piccadilly line. It stops all the way into central London and will take forever. Most take the Heathrow Express which stops at Paddington Station. From there it’s a 15 minute cab ride to Euston. [/quote]
That’s a good option. It will save you about 25 minutes getting to Euston, but… the cost for two tickets will be 36 GBP plus the cab will be another 10 GBP. So, you’re in for about 35 GBP ($55 US) more than taking the tube. Which might make good sense depending on how you value your time. Personally, I actually enjoy taking the tube (the world’s finest big city public transportation system, in my opinion)… but that’s just me.
Participant[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]
I like Buddhist philosophy (not religion) in that one is best served to find happiness within (not through a spouse, kids, jobs, and external factors). The level of enlightenment you achieve is solely up to you.[/quote]By finding happiness and enlightenment within does that really mean smacking the salami?[/quote]
I can’t vouch for the validity of the survey below, but if it’s even in the ballpark, Catholics have a great deal of first-hand experience (no pun intended!) regarding choking of the chicken.
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Q. I’m a Christian, and I’m feeling guilty about masturbating. How can I keep from feeling bad about it afterward?
Masturbation is universal among males, no matter what their religion. It is just something that males do. The vast majority of females do it too.
Many Christian theologians have recognized masturbation as something normal and healthy that God wanted us to have and not as something dirty or sinful. You can read some of these comments from theologians at HealthyStrokes.com on the page for Christians.
According to a survey of over 10,000 males in 2007, here is the number of times the average male masturbates a week, by religious group:
Catholic, 6.74
Baptist, 6.47
Pentecostal, 5.72
Other Protestant, 6.16
LDS, 5.53
Non-denominational Christian, 6.34
Other Christian, 7.14
Jewish, 7.61
Muslim, 5.74
Buddhist, 6.83
Hindu, 6.75
Other religions, 7.08
Not religious, 7.29So whether you masturbate as little as the least frequent religion or as much as the most frequent religion, don’t worry! You have a lot of company.
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Although, frankly, all of these numbers seem on the high side… but I don’t have a PhD in human sexuality.
Participant[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]
I like Buddhist philosophy (not religion) in that one is best served to find happiness within (not through a spouse, kids, jobs, and external factors). The level of enlightenment you achieve is solely up to you.[/quote]By finding happiness and enlightenment within does that really mean smacking the salami?[/quote]
I can’t vouch for the validity of the survey below, but if it’s even in the ballpark, Catholics have a great deal of first-hand experience (no pun intended!) regarding choking of the chicken.
*************
Q. I’m a Christian, and I’m feeling guilty about masturbating. How can I keep from feeling bad about it afterward?
Masturbation is universal among males, no matter what their religion. It is just something that males do. The vast majority of females do it too.
Many Christian theologians have recognized masturbation as something normal and healthy that God wanted us to have and not as something dirty or sinful. You can read some of these comments from theologians at HealthyStrokes.com on the page for Christians.
According to a survey of over 10,000 males in 2007, here is the number of times the average male masturbates a week, by religious group:
Catholic, 6.74
Baptist, 6.47
Pentecostal, 5.72
Other Protestant, 6.16
LDS, 5.53
Non-denominational Christian, 6.34
Other Christian, 7.14
Jewish, 7.61
Muslim, 5.74
Buddhist, 6.83
Hindu, 6.75
Other religions, 7.08
Not religious, 7.29So whether you masturbate as little as the least frequent religion or as much as the most frequent religion, don’t worry! You have a lot of company.
*************
Although, frankly, all of these numbers seem on the high side… but I don’t have a PhD in human sexuality.
Participant[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]
I like Buddhist philosophy (not religion) in that one is best served to find happiness within (not through a spouse, kids, jobs, and external factors). The level of enlightenment you achieve is solely up to you.[/quote]By finding happiness and enlightenment within does that really mean smacking the salami?[/quote]
I can’t vouch for the validity of the survey below, but if it’s even in the ballpark, Catholics have a great deal of first-hand experience (no pun intended!) regarding choking of the chicken.
*************
Q. I’m a Christian, and I’m feeling guilty about masturbating. How can I keep from feeling bad about it afterward?
Masturbation is universal among males, no matter what their religion. It is just something that males do. The vast majority of females do it too.
Many Christian theologians have recognized masturbation as something normal and healthy that God wanted us to have and not as something dirty or sinful. You can read some of these comments from theologians at HealthyStrokes.com on the page for Christians.
According to a survey of over 10,000 males in 2007, here is the number of times the average male masturbates a week, by religious group:
Catholic, 6.74
Baptist, 6.47
Pentecostal, 5.72
Other Protestant, 6.16
LDS, 5.53
Non-denominational Christian, 6.34
Other Christian, 7.14
Jewish, 7.61
Muslim, 5.74
Buddhist, 6.83
Hindu, 6.75
Other religions, 7.08
Not religious, 7.29So whether you masturbate as little as the least frequent religion or as much as the most frequent religion, don’t worry! You have a lot of company.
*************
Although, frankly, all of these numbers seem on the high side… but I don’t have a PhD in human sexuality.
Participant[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]
I like Buddhist philosophy (not religion) in that one is best served to find happiness within (not through a spouse, kids, jobs, and external factors). The level of enlightenment you achieve is solely up to you.[/quote]By finding happiness and enlightenment within does that really mean smacking the salami?[/quote]
I can’t vouch for the validity of the survey below, but if it’s even in the ballpark, Catholics have a great deal of first-hand experience (no pun intended!) regarding choking of the chicken.
*************
Q. I’m a Christian, and I’m feeling guilty about masturbating. How can I keep from feeling bad about it afterward?
Masturbation is universal among males, no matter what their religion. It is just something that males do. The vast majority of females do it too.
Many Christian theologians have recognized masturbation as something normal and healthy that God wanted us to have and not as something dirty or sinful. You can read some of these comments from theologians at HealthyStrokes.com on the page for Christians.
According to a survey of over 10,000 males in 2007, here is the number of times the average male masturbates a week, by religious group:
Catholic, 6.74
Baptist, 6.47
Pentecostal, 5.72
Other Protestant, 6.16
LDS, 5.53
Non-denominational Christian, 6.34
Other Christian, 7.14
Jewish, 7.61
Muslim, 5.74
Buddhist, 6.83
Hindu, 6.75
Other religions, 7.08
Not religious, 7.29So whether you masturbate as little as the least frequent religion or as much as the most frequent religion, don’t worry! You have a lot of company.
*************
Although, frankly, all of these numbers seem on the high side… but I don’t have a PhD in human sexuality.
Participant[quote=paramount][quote=briansd1]
I like Buddhist philosophy (not religion) in that one is best served to find happiness within (not through a spouse, kids, jobs, and external factors). The level of enlightenment you achieve is solely up to you.[/quote]By finding happiness and enlightenment within does that really mean smacking the salami?[/quote]
I can’t vouch for the validity of the survey below, but if it’s even in the ballpark, Catholics have a great deal of first-hand experience (no pun intended!) regarding choking of the chicken.
*************
Q. I’m a Christian, and I’m feeling guilty about masturbating. How can I keep from feeling bad about it afterward?
Masturbation is universal among males, no matter what their religion. It is just something that males do. The vast majority of females do it too.
Many Christian theologians have recognized masturbation as something normal and healthy that God wanted us to have and not as something dirty or sinful. You can read some of these comments from theologians at HealthyStrokes.com on the page for Christians.
According to a survey of over 10,000 males in 2007, here is the number of times the average male masturbates a week, by religious group:
Catholic, 6.74
Baptist, 6.47
Pentecostal, 5.72
Other Protestant, 6.16
LDS, 5.53
Non-denominational Christian, 6.34
Other Christian, 7.14
Jewish, 7.61
Muslim, 5.74
Buddhist, 6.83
Hindu, 6.75
Other religions, 7.08
Not religious, 7.29So whether you masturbate as little as the least frequent religion or as much as the most frequent religion, don’t worry! You have a lot of company.
*************
Although, frankly, all of these numbers seem on the high side… but I don’t have a PhD in human sexuality.
Participant[quote=svelte]Thanks Dave!
We’ll see how much luggage we end up taking this time, as my wife didn’t want to drag it all through the tube again this trip. If we can minimize the # of suitcases, we may take your advice!
[/quote]If luggage is an issue, I’d go the Leicester Square – Northern Line route. It’ll plop you down in Euston Station closest to the trains.
Any way you slice it you’re going to be dragging your luggage through Heathrow and Euston. So, adding Leicester Square to the mix shouldn’t be too much additional trouble. Just my opinion.
Have fun.
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