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ParticipantHey, this development is in Nigeria. I’m still waiting to receive my $1M from the King of Nigeria. I sent him $20K by wire transfer last month and he promised me $1M as soon as he gets out of exile. Maybe when I receive my $1M I can invest in these properties. I sure am glad he contacted me by email, otherwise I might have missed out on this great opportunity.
ParticipantAnother suspicious sale — this one’s a condo in Hillcrest. It sold in June 2005 for $390K and then in June 2006 for $525K. That’s over a 35% increase in one year, and I didn’t think condo prices were increasing much between 2005-2006, but I could be wrong.
Participantsdnativeson wrote:
Islam is a religion of conquest, it has no comparision to the relatively peaceful Christian religion.
Did you ever hear of The Crusades?<.a>
ParticipantNeetAt, you should move to Kazakhstan. It is like you describe. The Porsche rich mans have machine gun guards to protect against poor mans and gypsy. Very nice!
Participantsalo_t, nsr’s post above says it all. It is simple physics, F=mA. For A you have 500mph to 0 in a few milliseconds. That’s a big A. And we already know that m is very big — many, many tons. That means a really really really big F, as nsr has demonstrated. The reason the hole is smaller than the airplane is because aircraft are not solid objects, they are assemblies. The strongest parts (decks, bulkheads, etc…) are in the center and would penetrate more deeply. Also, the Pentagon is an office building, not a hardened bunker.
ParticipantYes, bullets deform on impact with a wall. Bullets weigh a few grams. A big jetliner weighs many tons. F=mA.
Participantsalo_t, as I wrote earlier, the image from that security camera is worthless. And you see “that stuff” at other crash sites because the plane is usually not traveling at 500mph in other crashes. Most airliner crashes have been during takeoff or landing when speeds are lower and angle of approach is smaller. In that Pentagon crash you had a heavy jet moving 500mph slamming head-on into a wall. The energy difference is huge vs. an airliner on takeoff or landing at 150mph crashing at a shallow angle into the ground. This was not a typical airliner crash at all, which is why there’s not a lot of debris, most of it disintegrated and burned. And as to why it penetrated so far into the building, it was a large, heavy object carrying a tremendous amount of kinetic energy; it had to go somewhere.
ParticipantBrian, you’re not going to be able to make anything out because that camera is not designed to capture objects moving across its field of vision at 500mph only a few hundred feet away. It’s simply not fast enough, even if it happened to capture a frame with the object in the field of view. Exposures are not instantaneous; when objects move during exposure you will see image distortion. With film cameras this presents as blurring, and with digital cameras as aliasing. The object might appear smaller than it really was, it might appear bigger, or it might not appear at all. In either case, the medium doesn’t respond quickly enough to capture the information. Just because you don’t see a plane in that frame doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a plane. It just means that the camera wasn’t fast enough to record everything that happened.
ParticipantYou’re not gonna see anything in that video. That plane was moving at 500mph when it hit; the camera didn’t capture frequently enough to catch it in the air.
ParticipantThere are some hilarious nuggets on this thread:
gold_dredger_phd:
You have to understand that most news outlets and journalists hate this country.
Didn’t know that. That’s a whole lot of USA-hating goin’ on!
cabinboy:
The average engineer doesn’t know squat about material properties beyond standard boundary conditions. So folks, any argument from any engineer as to what they thought should have happened doesn’t prove or disprove anything.
Yep, don’t listen to any of them university-edumacated smarty-pantses and all of their understandin’ and equations and whatnot.
ParticipantMy guess is that the attacks were a combination of Islamic fundamentalist conspiracy, gross governmental negligence, and insurance fraud/capital murder. It is likely that Al Qaeda planned and executed the 9/11 attacks but it is also likely that US/Egyptian/Turkish/Israeli/etc… intelligence discovered the plot beforehand. Perhaps the White House took no action to stop the attack knowing that if the plot succeeded they would have justification to invade Iraq. Also, WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein is a rich and powerful guy who might have some connections in intelligence circles; he could have hired a foreign demolition team of 4 or 5 men to plant the thermite cutting charges in his buildings (they don’t use “bombs” in building demolition) so that he wouldn’t be stuck with an expensive asbestos-filled white elephant afterwards.
We’ll probably never really know what happened. However, Operation Northwoods is proof that the US has at least planned false flag attacks in the past. The fact that CIA operative Luis Posada remains free in the US after executing the bombing of Cubana Flight 455 in which 73 people died shows that US not only deals with known terrorists, but actually protects them. And the USS Liberty incident is proof that even our closest allies have been guilty of treachery against us when acting in their national interest. As I wrote earlier, 9/11 will be the Kennedy assassination of our generation, a hall of mirrors in which the truth will remain forever hidden.
ParticipantKeep in mind that getting an idea published on a racist website is a very easy way to discredit it.
The collapse of building 7 is very hard to explain away. But there may have been multiple things happening that day. I think the attack was real, Al Qaeda had attempted to blow those towers up in 1993 and almost succeeded. They also had a plan to hijack multiple airliners foiled when their explosives lab in the Phillipines blew up by accident. So Al Qaeda was probably behind the attacks on September 11. However, it is entirely possible that a few people with connections in high places may have received advance warning of the plot and taken advantage of it for political or economic gain. The intelligence services of the US, UK, Turkey, Egypt, Israel, and many other countries have been monitoring Al Qaeda for some time and may have had some foreknowledge of the plot.
September 11 is this generation’s Kennedy assassination. In both cases the official story is every bit as unlikely as most of the conspiracy theories. We’re also unlikely to know the real story in either case. BTW, did anyone see the recent Guardian story with new details about the assassination of Bobby Kennedy?.
And I promise there is no racist content to be found on any of my links 🙂
ParticipantIt is same in Kazakhstan. In 2000 there was big demand for pitchfork to protect against gypsy and price of pitchfork go to over 2 U S of A dollars. Normally a pitchfork cost half bucket of goat milk.
ParticipantJagshamesh! In my town of Almaty Kazakhstan you can buy house for fifty dollars from U S of A. If it is custom home with goat pen then maybe fifty five.
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