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July 31, 2009 at 6:16 AM in reply to: Swine Flu Quarantines and Immunizations in Fall 2009???? #440105July 31, 2009 at 6:16 AM in reply to: Swine Flu Quarantines and Immunizations in Fall 2009???? #440276
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ParticipantThis has been discussed here several times. First, some historical perspective — this has happened before. Here’s a 60 Minutes episode about the last time we were told the swine flu was going to kill thousands and we all had to get vaccinated:
In 1976 only one or two people died from the swine flu yet hundreds were permanently injured by the vaccine.
The regular flu kills 250,000 to 500,000 worldwide annually.
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ParticipantIt’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.”
Found it — it’s actually in the trailer for the film. Go to 1:01 in. Just so no one thinks this is anything new, or that Conyers is the only one not reading legislation. He’s just one of the few honest enough to admit it.
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ParticipantIt’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.”
Found it — it’s actually in the trailer for the film. Go to 1:01 in. Just so no one thinks this is anything new, or that Conyers is the only one not reading legislation. He’s just one of the few honest enough to admit it.
blahblahblah
ParticipantIt’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.”
Found it — it’s actually in the trailer for the film. Go to 1:01 in. Just so no one thinks this is anything new, or that Conyers is the only one not reading legislation. He’s just one of the few honest enough to admit it.
blahblahblah
ParticipantIt’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.”
Found it — it’s actually in the trailer for the film. Go to 1:01 in. Just so no one thinks this is anything new, or that Conyers is the only one not reading legislation. He’s just one of the few honest enough to admit it.
blahblahblah
ParticipantIt’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.”
Found it — it’s actually in the trailer for the film. Go to 1:01 in. Just so no one thinks this is anything new, or that Conyers is the only one not reading legislation. He’s just one of the few honest enough to admit it.
blahblahblah
ParticipantHere… You have John Conyers himself saying
“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
It’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.” These bills come out of think tanks funded by corporate interests. Corporate lobbyists jawbone congressmen all day long about the importance of passing the stuff they’ve written and how they’ll be sure to get more campaign contributions if they play along. It’s the best government money can buy!
blahblahblah
ParticipantHere… You have John Conyers himself saying
“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
It’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.” These bills come out of think tanks funded by corporate interests. Corporate lobbyists jawbone congressmen all day long about the importance of passing the stuff they’ve written and how they’ll be sure to get more campaign contributions if they play along. It’s the best government money can buy!
blahblahblah
ParticipantHere… You have John Conyers himself saying
“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
It’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.” These bills come out of think tanks funded by corporate interests. Corporate lobbyists jawbone congressmen all day long about the importance of passing the stuff they’ve written and how they’ll be sure to get more campaign contributions if they play along. It’s the best government money can buy!
blahblahblah
ParticipantHere… You have John Conyers himself saying
“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
It’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.” These bills come out of think tanks funded by corporate interests. Corporate lobbyists jawbone congressmen all day long about the importance of passing the stuff they’ve written and how they’ll be sure to get more campaign contributions if they play along. It’s the best government money can buy!
blahblahblah
ParticipantHere… You have John Conyers himself saying
“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
It’s the same as with the Patriot Act. Remember when Michael Moore interviewed Conyers in “Fahrenheit 911” and asked him if he had read the Patriot Act before voting to approve it? He said something to the effect of — “Sit down, my son. We don’t read most of the legislation we vote on.” These bills come out of think tanks funded by corporate interests. Corporate lobbyists jawbone congressmen all day long about the importance of passing the stuff they’ve written and how they’ll be sure to get more campaign contributions if they play along. It’s the best government money can buy!
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ParticipantConcho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
By this logic we shouldn’t have police or fire departments. The police can’t stop every crime so why even bother? The fire department can’t save every endangered life so why should I have to pay taxes to support it?
Also, TB and other communicable diseases don’t care if you’re afraid of them or not.
I don’t support this health “plan” coming out of Washington either. It will do nothing to improve the nation’s health and will simply further enrich insurance companies while delivering another body blow to the middle class.
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.
blahblahblah
ParticipantConcho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
By this logic we shouldn’t have police or fire departments. The police can’t stop every crime so why even bother? The fire department can’t save every endangered life so why should I have to pay taxes to support it?
Also, TB and other communicable diseases don’t care if you’re afraid of them or not.
I don’t support this health “plan” coming out of Washington either. It will do nothing to improve the nation’s health and will simply further enrich insurance companies while delivering another body blow to the middle class.
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.
blahblahblah
ParticipantConcho and DBA the premise that you guys bring to the table is simply not realistic. It is not. Is every person who has aids going to get treated? Is every person who has drug resistant tb going to get treated as well? So in this perfect world of health maintenance provided by our government everyone will be in perfect health?
I guess I am in the minority by not being afraid to go out in public for fear of catching TB from a guy at a stoplight. I better wait until universal health care comes to go outside… whew, thanks for telling me.
By this logic we shouldn’t have police or fire departments. The police can’t stop every crime so why even bother? The fire department can’t save every endangered life so why should I have to pay taxes to support it?
Also, TB and other communicable diseases don’t care if you’re afraid of them or not.
I don’t support this health “plan” coming out of Washington either. It will do nothing to improve the nation’s health and will simply further enrich insurance companies while delivering another body blow to the middle class.
The system I would like the most for the US would be the Swiss system of highly regulated private medical insurance, but we can never have it here because corporations run the government.
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