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August 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM in reply to: Don’t worry, these will only be used in an emergency. #446205August 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM in reply to: Don’t worry, these will only be used in an emergency. #446386
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ParticipantThis isn’t about the flu, which isn’t going to hurt anyone. There will be lots of scary stories about it on the TV though. This is about control and conditioning of the population.
Since everyone understands how to take off their shoes and belt and put their toiletries in a little baggie now, they will soon understand how to do this and get on a bus when told.
You will need a little baggie for your shampoo and toothpaste when you are evacuated from your house. Can’t have anyone with shoes or belts either because those can be used as weapons.
See everyone at the FEMA camps! I call top bunk.
August 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM in reply to: Aside from the 700billion bailout package, did any of you taxpayers notice that you’ll also be subsidizing GM, Ford, Chrysler? #445481Participantflu, I’m no fan of these bailouts either. However, let’s get our facts straight — autoworkers don’t make $70 an hour. Here is where that number comes from:
The average GM assembly-line worker makes about $28 per hour in wages, and I can assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension plan contributions. Rather, the $70 per hour figure (or $73 an hour, or whatever) is a ridiculous number obtained by adding up GM’s total labor, health, and pension costs, and then dividing by the total number of hours worked. In other words, it includes all the healthcare and retirement costs of retired workers. [emphasis in original]
More details in this article.
Other than that little bit of disinfo I basically share your opinion. I will say if we had no choice but to do a bailout, I’d rather bail out an industry that makes something (autos) than an industry that makes nothing (financial/banking).
August 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM in reply to: Aside from the 700billion bailout package, did any of you taxpayers notice that you’ll also be subsidizing GM, Ford, Chrysler? #445674Participantflu, I’m no fan of these bailouts either. However, let’s get our facts straight — autoworkers don’t make $70 an hour. Here is where that number comes from:
The average GM assembly-line worker makes about $28 per hour in wages, and I can assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension plan contributions. Rather, the $70 per hour figure (or $73 an hour, or whatever) is a ridiculous number obtained by adding up GM’s total labor, health, and pension costs, and then dividing by the total number of hours worked. In other words, it includes all the healthcare and retirement costs of retired workers. [emphasis in original]
More details in this article.
Other than that little bit of disinfo I basically share your opinion. I will say if we had no choice but to do a bailout, I’d rather bail out an industry that makes something (autos) than an industry that makes nothing (financial/banking).
August 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM in reply to: Aside from the 700billion bailout package, did any of you taxpayers notice that you’ll also be subsidizing GM, Ford, Chrysler? #446014Participantflu, I’m no fan of these bailouts either. However, let’s get our facts straight — autoworkers don’t make $70 an hour. Here is where that number comes from:
The average GM assembly-line worker makes about $28 per hour in wages, and I can assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension plan contributions. Rather, the $70 per hour figure (or $73 an hour, or whatever) is a ridiculous number obtained by adding up GM’s total labor, health, and pension costs, and then dividing by the total number of hours worked. In other words, it includes all the healthcare and retirement costs of retired workers. [emphasis in original]
More details in this article.
Other than that little bit of disinfo I basically share your opinion. I will say if we had no choice but to do a bailout, I’d rather bail out an industry that makes something (autos) than an industry that makes nothing (financial/banking).
August 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM in reply to: Aside from the 700billion bailout package, did any of you taxpayers notice that you’ll also be subsidizing GM, Ford, Chrysler? #446084Participantflu, I’m no fan of these bailouts either. However, let’s get our facts straight — autoworkers don’t make $70 an hour. Here is where that number comes from:
The average GM assembly-line worker makes about $28 per hour in wages, and I can assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension plan contributions. Rather, the $70 per hour figure (or $73 an hour, or whatever) is a ridiculous number obtained by adding up GM’s total labor, health, and pension costs, and then dividing by the total number of hours worked. In other words, it includes all the healthcare and retirement costs of retired workers. [emphasis in original]
More details in this article.
Other than that little bit of disinfo I basically share your opinion. I will say if we had no choice but to do a bailout, I’d rather bail out an industry that makes something (autos) than an industry that makes nothing (financial/banking).
August 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM in reply to: Aside from the 700billion bailout package, did any of you taxpayers notice that you’ll also be subsidizing GM, Ford, Chrysler? #446265Participantflu, I’m no fan of these bailouts either. However, let’s get our facts straight — autoworkers don’t make $70 an hour. Here is where that number comes from:
The average GM assembly-line worker makes about $28 per hour in wages, and I can assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension plan contributions. Rather, the $70 per hour figure (or $73 an hour, or whatever) is a ridiculous number obtained by adding up GM’s total labor, health, and pension costs, and then dividing by the total number of hours worked. In other words, it includes all the healthcare and retirement costs of retired workers. [emphasis in original]
More details in this article.
Other than that little bit of disinfo I basically share your opinion. I will say if we had no choice but to do a bailout, I’d rather bail out an industry that makes something (autos) than an industry that makes nothing (financial/banking).
ParticipantIt is amazing how unreal the thinking is still
It is the whole woman’s life. I don’t have much sympathy either, but just imagine a lifestyle change that means you need to move out of your house, your neighborhood, leave all of your friends, move your kids to a poorer area, etc… because of a divorce. Happens all the time and it’s tough. This woman has just not faced reality yet, but she will have to at some point.
ParticipantIt is amazing how unreal the thinking is still
It is the whole woman’s life. I don’t have much sympathy either, but just imagine a lifestyle change that means you need to move out of your house, your neighborhood, leave all of your friends, move your kids to a poorer area, etc… because of a divorce. Happens all the time and it’s tough. This woman has just not faced reality yet, but she will have to at some point.
ParticipantIt is amazing how unreal the thinking is still
It is the whole woman’s life. I don’t have much sympathy either, but just imagine a lifestyle change that means you need to move out of your house, your neighborhood, leave all of your friends, move your kids to a poorer area, etc… because of a divorce. Happens all the time and it’s tough. This woman has just not faced reality yet, but she will have to at some point.
ParticipantIt is amazing how unreal the thinking is still
It is the whole woman’s life. I don’t have much sympathy either, but just imagine a lifestyle change that means you need to move out of your house, your neighborhood, leave all of your friends, move your kids to a poorer area, etc… because of a divorce. Happens all the time and it’s tough. This woman has just not faced reality yet, but she will have to at some point.
ParticipantIt is amazing how unreal the thinking is still
It is the whole woman’s life. I don’t have much sympathy either, but just imagine a lifestyle change that means you need to move out of your house, your neighborhood, leave all of your friends, move your kids to a poorer area, etc… because of a divorce. Happens all the time and it’s tough. This woman has just not faced reality yet, but she will have to at some point.
Participanti) enrich insiders beyond their wildest dreams, insuring their dominance for a generation to come.
Hmmmm, which insurance company is going to “insure their dominance?” The proper word in this context is ensure.
Sorry but that’s a pet peeve of mine.
Back to the point of the post, we are really in uncharted territory. We might have an Argentina-style scenario here, but of course Argentina isn’t exactly a world power. The USA is a different animal. We have the world’s most powerful military and are basically untouchable due to our geography (oceans on either side, friendly/controlled neighbors to the north and south) and our nuclear deterrent. This is one porcupine that no one will mess with.
Maybe a Japan-style lost decade of deflation? Well, Japan is a nation of hard-working savers with a very conservative central bank and government. The USA is a nation of spendthrifts with a very liberal central bank and government, at least as far as spending goes. Also, Japan has an aging stable population while the USA has a growing young population thanks to our liberal immigration policy.
My bet is for a Katy-bar-the-door stagflation. Owe the world a bunch of money? No problem, just make the money worth a lot less. Of course we will have a stagnant economy at the same time since our economy is dependent upon credit and consumer spending.
Of course I could be wrong…
Participanti) enrich insiders beyond their wildest dreams, insuring their dominance for a generation to come.
Hmmmm, which insurance company is going to “insure their dominance?” The proper word in this context is ensure.
Sorry but that’s a pet peeve of mine.
Back to the point of the post, we are really in uncharted territory. We might have an Argentina-style scenario here, but of course Argentina isn’t exactly a world power. The USA is a different animal. We have the world’s most powerful military and are basically untouchable due to our geography (oceans on either side, friendly/controlled neighbors to the north and south) and our nuclear deterrent. This is one porcupine that no one will mess with.
Maybe a Japan-style lost decade of deflation? Well, Japan is a nation of hard-working savers with a very conservative central bank and government. The USA is a nation of spendthrifts with a very liberal central bank and government, at least as far as spending goes. Also, Japan has an aging stable population while the USA has a growing young population thanks to our liberal immigration policy.
My bet is for a Katy-bar-the-door stagflation. Owe the world a bunch of money? No problem, just make the money worth a lot less. Of course we will have a stagnant economy at the same time since our economy is dependent upon credit and consumer spending.
Of course I could be wrong…
Participanti) enrich insiders beyond their wildest dreams, insuring their dominance for a generation to come.
Hmmmm, which insurance company is going to “insure their dominance?” The proper word in this context is ensure.
Sorry but that’s a pet peeve of mine.
Back to the point of the post, we are really in uncharted territory. We might have an Argentina-style scenario here, but of course Argentina isn’t exactly a world power. The USA is a different animal. We have the world’s most powerful military and are basically untouchable due to our geography (oceans on either side, friendly/controlled neighbors to the north and south) and our nuclear deterrent. This is one porcupine that no one will mess with.
Maybe a Japan-style lost decade of deflation? Well, Japan is a nation of hard-working savers with a very conservative central bank and government. The USA is a nation of spendthrifts with a very liberal central bank and government, at least as far as spending goes. Also, Japan has an aging stable population while the USA has a growing young population thanks to our liberal immigration policy.
My bet is for a Katy-bar-the-door stagflation. Owe the world a bunch of money? No problem, just make the money worth a lot less. Of course we will have a stagnant economy at the same time since our economy is dependent upon credit and consumer spending.
Of course I could be wrong…
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