[BGinRB]

[quote=anxvariety]
He mentioned that the interviewees were letting it be known that they’d take 30-50% less than the usual salary[/quote]

Right, as observed.

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Um, yeah, and those are probably some of the same small companies that in good times try to convince people to take a 30-50% pay cut in return for as much “pre-ipo toilet paper stock certificates”….. and wonder why it’s so difficult to hire good talent or why their development/projects suck egg. I have not seen a company succeed in the long run primarily driven by cost cutting and finding the cheapest “labor” of development. Doing so infers they aren’t really building anything that cannot be easily done by someone else, and hence really lack a barrier to entry and competition. If that isn’t a warning sign of how you’re valued even before you show up for work, guess what happens when you do show up for work.
[/quote]

Agreed, but irrelevant. The sad part is that the candidates were aware of all that (it was a LAMP stack webdev, not an IT position). The incident reminded me of late 2002/early 2003 when people with established careers and decade(s) of experience were just looking for something to tide them over and were taking 50% pay cut.

[BGinRB]

[quote=anxvariety]
He mentioned that the interviewees were letting it be known that they’d take 30-50% less than the usual salary[/quote]

Right, as observed.

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Um, yeah, and those are probably some of the same small companies that in good times try to convince people to take a 30-50% pay cut in return for as much “pre-ipo toilet paper stock certificates”….. and wonder why it’s so difficult to hire good talent or why their development/projects suck egg. I have not seen a company succeed in the long run primarily driven by cost cutting and finding the cheapest “labor” of development. Doing so infers they aren’t really building anything that cannot be easily done by someone else, and hence really lack a barrier to entry and competition. If that isn’t a warning sign of how you’re valued even before you show up for work, guess what happens when you do show up for work.
[/quote]

Agreed, but irrelevant. The sad part is that the candidates were aware of all that (it was a LAMP stack webdev, not an IT position). The incident reminded me of late 2002/early 2003 when people with established careers and decade(s) of experience were just looking for something to tide them over and were taking 50% pay cut.

[BGinRB]

[quote=anxvariety]
He mentioned that the interviewees were letting it be known that they’d take 30-50% less than the usual salary[/quote]

Right, as observed.

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Um, yeah, and those are probably some of the same small companies that in good times try to convince people to take a 30-50% pay cut in return for as much “pre-ipo toilet paper stock certificates”….. and wonder why it’s so difficult to hire good talent or why their development/projects suck egg. I have not seen a company succeed in the long run primarily driven by cost cutting and finding the cheapest “labor” of development. Doing so infers they aren’t really building anything that cannot be easily done by someone else, and hence really lack a barrier to entry and competition. If that isn’t a warning sign of how you’re valued even before you show up for work, guess what happens when you do show up for work.
[/quote]

Agreed, but irrelevant. The sad part is that the candidates were aware of all that (it was a LAMP stack webdev, not an IT position). The incident reminded me of late 2002/early 2003 when people with established careers and decade(s) of experience were just looking for something to tide them over and were taking 50% pay cut.

[BGinRB]

[quote=anxvariety]
He mentioned that the interviewees were letting it be known that they’d take 30-50% less than the usual salary[/quote]

Right, as observed.

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Um, yeah, and those are probably some of the same small companies that in good times try to convince people to take a 30-50% pay cut in return for as much “pre-ipo toilet paper stock certificates”….. and wonder why it’s so difficult to hire good talent or why their development/projects suck egg. I have not seen a company succeed in the long run primarily driven by cost cutting and finding the cheapest “labor” of development. Doing so infers they aren’t really building anything that cannot be easily done by someone else, and hence really lack a barrier to entry and competition. If that isn’t a warning sign of how you’re valued even before you show up for work, guess what happens when you do show up for work.
[/quote]

Agreed, but irrelevant. The sad part is that the candidates were aware of all that (it was a LAMP stack webdev, not an IT position). The incident reminded me of late 2002/early 2003 when people with established careers and decade(s) of experience were just looking for something to tide them over and were taking 50% pay cut.

[BGinRB]

[quote=anxvariety]
He mentioned that the interviewees were letting it be known that they’d take 30-50% less than the usual salary[/quote]

Right, as observed.

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Um, yeah, and those are probably some of the same small companies that in good times try to convince people to take a 30-50% pay cut in return for as much “pre-ipo toilet paper stock certificates”….. and wonder why it’s so difficult to hire good talent or why their development/projects suck egg. I have not seen a company succeed in the long run primarily driven by cost cutting and finding the cheapest “labor” of development. Doing so infers they aren’t really building anything that cannot be easily done by someone else, and hence really lack a barrier to entry and competition. If that isn’t a warning sign of how you’re valued even before you show up for work, guess what happens when you do show up for work.
[/quote]

Agreed, but irrelevant. The sad part is that the candidates were aware of all that (it was a LAMP stack webdev, not an IT position). The incident reminded me of late 2002/early 2003 when people with established careers and decade(s) of experience were just looking for something to tide them over and were taking 50% pay cut.

[BGinRB]

[quote=sdrealtor]

BG,
What is wrong with redfin is that you are completely on your own. The value of someone that really knows the area you are looking in and can foresee things about a home that you wouldnt ever think of in advance because they look at far more homes than you ever would is worth more than I could ever say.[/quote]

Hm… you make it sound like all you have to offer is a glorified SDLookup. And the cost is the difference between yours and redfin’s fee.

I am on my own with a 3% agent just as well. There is no satisfaction guarantee and no return period.

[BGinRB]

[quote=sdrealtor]

BG,
What is wrong with redfin is that you are completely on your own. The value of someone that really knows the area you are looking in and can foresee things about a home that you wouldnt ever think of in advance because they look at far more homes than you ever would is worth more than I could ever say.[/quote]

Hm… you make it sound like all you have to offer is a glorified SDLookup. And the cost is the difference between yours and redfin’s fee.

I am on my own with a 3% agent just as well. There is no satisfaction guarantee and no return period.

[BGinRB]

[quote=sdrealtor]

BG,
What is wrong with redfin is that you are completely on your own. The value of someone that really knows the area you are looking in and can foresee things about a home that you wouldnt ever think of in advance because they look at far more homes than you ever would is worth more than I could ever say.[/quote]

Hm… you make it sound like all you have to offer is a glorified SDLookup. And the cost is the difference between yours and redfin’s fee.

I am on my own with a 3% agent just as well. There is no satisfaction guarantee and no return period.

[BGinRB]

[quote=sdrealtor]

BG,
What is wrong with redfin is that you are completely on your own. The value of someone that really knows the area you are looking in and can foresee things about a home that you wouldnt ever think of in advance because they look at far more homes than you ever would is worth more than I could ever say.[/quote]

Hm… you make it sound like all you have to offer is a glorified SDLookup. And the cost is the difference between yours and redfin’s fee.

I am on my own with a 3% agent just as well. There is no satisfaction guarantee and no return period.

[BGinRB]

[quote=sdrealtor]

BG,
What is wrong with redfin is that you are completely on your own. The value of someone that really knows the area you are looking in and can foresee things about a home that you wouldnt ever think of in advance because they look at far more homes than you ever would is worth more than I could ever say.[/quote]

Hm… you make it sound like all you have to offer is a glorified SDLookup. And the cost is the difference between yours and redfin’s fee.

I am on my own with a 3% agent just as well. There is no satisfaction guarantee and no return period.

[BGinRB]

What’s wrong with redfin.com people?

[BGinRB]

What’s wrong with redfin.com people?

[BGinRB]

What’s wrong with redfin.com people?

[BGinRB]

What’s wrong with redfin.com people?

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What’s wrong with redfin.com people?

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