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May 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405846May 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406092
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Participant[quote=afx114]I’m curious what percentage of the public would get an education if there weren’t public schools. Any guesses?[/quote]
Right to free and compulsory primary education is established as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. There is no stable country in the world that you could use as a reference.
You have significant diversity in numbers once you move from the primary (free, compulsory) to the secondary (available and accessible).
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=27173&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.htmlMay 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406332BGinRB
Participant[quote=afx114]I’m curious what percentage of the public would get an education if there weren’t public schools. Any guesses?[/quote]
Right to free and compulsory primary education is established as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. There is no stable country in the world that you could use as a reference.
You have significant diversity in numbers once you move from the primary (free, compulsory) to the secondary (available and accessible).
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=27173&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.htmlMay 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406394BGinRB
Participant[quote=afx114]I’m curious what percentage of the public would get an education if there weren’t public schools. Any guesses?[/quote]
Right to free and compulsory primary education is established as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. There is no stable country in the world that you could use as a reference.
You have significant diversity in numbers once you move from the primary (free, compulsory) to the secondary (available and accessible).
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=27173&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.htmlMay 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406541BGinRB
Participant[quote=afx114]I’m curious what percentage of the public would get an education if there weren’t public schools. Any guesses?[/quote]
Right to free and compulsory primary education is established as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. There is no stable country in the world that you could use as a reference.
You have significant diversity in numbers once you move from the primary (free, compulsory) to the secondary (available and accessible).
http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=27173&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.htmlMay 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405817BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]BGinRB, that didn’t stop Ireland from becoming a Celtic Tiger with the highest per capita GDP in Europe.
Well, that is until the current financial crisis which left Ireland deep in debt (sounds like California).
Nevertheless, educationally, the Irish did well. The population is highly educated and well trained. Some cases of abuse don’t condemn the whole system.
[/quote]The industrial schools were all closed 30+ years ago, so in this particular instance ‘some cases of abuse’ did condemn the whole system.
Familiarize yourself with the funding model of the Irish schools before you start propagation that model. It might be incompatible with your 0.5% property taxes proposal.
May 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406062BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]BGinRB, that didn’t stop Ireland from becoming a Celtic Tiger with the highest per capita GDP in Europe.
Well, that is until the current financial crisis which left Ireland deep in debt (sounds like California).
Nevertheless, educationally, the Irish did well. The population is highly educated and well trained. Some cases of abuse don’t condemn the whole system.
[/quote]The industrial schools were all closed 30+ years ago, so in this particular instance ‘some cases of abuse’ did condemn the whole system.
Familiarize yourself with the funding model of the Irish schools before you start propagation that model. It might be incompatible with your 0.5% property taxes proposal.
May 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406302BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]BGinRB, that didn’t stop Ireland from becoming a Celtic Tiger with the highest per capita GDP in Europe.
Well, that is until the current financial crisis which left Ireland deep in debt (sounds like California).
Nevertheless, educationally, the Irish did well. The population is highly educated and well trained. Some cases of abuse don’t condemn the whole system.
[/quote]The industrial schools were all closed 30+ years ago, so in this particular instance ‘some cases of abuse’ did condemn the whole system.
Familiarize yourself with the funding model of the Irish schools before you start propagation that model. It might be incompatible with your 0.5% property taxes proposal.
May 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406364BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]BGinRB, that didn’t stop Ireland from becoming a Celtic Tiger with the highest per capita GDP in Europe.
Well, that is until the current financial crisis which left Ireland deep in debt (sounds like California).
Nevertheless, educationally, the Irish did well. The population is highly educated and well trained. Some cases of abuse don’t condemn the whole system.
[/quote]The industrial schools were all closed 30+ years ago, so in this particular instance ‘some cases of abuse’ did condemn the whole system.
Familiarize yourself with the funding model of the Irish schools before you start propagation that model. It might be incompatible with your 0.5% property taxes proposal.
May 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406511BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]BGinRB, that didn’t stop Ireland from becoming a Celtic Tiger with the highest per capita GDP in Europe.
Well, that is until the current financial crisis which left Ireland deep in debt (sounds like California).
Nevertheless, educationally, the Irish did well. The population is highly educated and well trained. Some cases of abuse don’t condemn the whole system.
[/quote]The industrial schools were all closed 30+ years ago, so in this particular instance ‘some cases of abuse’ did condemn the whole system.
Familiarize yourself with the funding model of the Irish schools before you start propagation that model. It might be incompatible with your 0.5% property taxes proposal.
May 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #405792BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I totally agree.
I would like to see property taxes reduced to 0.5% and completely eliminate local K-12 funding.
Why should I pay for other people’s kids? People who have kids should pay for their own.
[/quote]Well, throngs of illiterate kids/adults could impact your quality of life more than 50% of your property taxes. Poor and illiterate people tend to have kids.
[quote=briansd1]
In the past, the Catholic nuns did a fine job teaching the kids. And kids who don’t behave need a good spanking.
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Sure.
And if the kids are really naughty a rape here and there will take care of that.‘Endemic’ rape and abuse of Irish children in Catholic care, inquiry finds
Beatings and humiliation by nuns and priests were common at institutions that held up to 30,000 children, Ryan report states
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/irish-catholic-schools-child-abuse-claims
May 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406037BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I totally agree.
I would like to see property taxes reduced to 0.5% and completely eliminate local K-12 funding.
Why should I pay for other people’s kids? People who have kids should pay for their own.
[/quote]Well, throngs of illiterate kids/adults could impact your quality of life more than 50% of your property taxes. Poor and illiterate people tend to have kids.
[quote=briansd1]
In the past, the Catholic nuns did a fine job teaching the kids. And kids who don’t behave need a good spanking.
[/quote]
Sure.
And if the kids are really naughty a rape here and there will take care of that.‘Endemic’ rape and abuse of Irish children in Catholic care, inquiry finds
Beatings and humiliation by nuns and priests were common at institutions that held up to 30,000 children, Ryan report states
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/irish-catholic-schools-child-abuse-claims
May 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406277BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I totally agree.
I would like to see property taxes reduced to 0.5% and completely eliminate local K-12 funding.
Why should I pay for other people’s kids? People who have kids should pay for their own.
[/quote]Well, throngs of illiterate kids/adults could impact your quality of life more than 50% of your property taxes. Poor and illiterate people tend to have kids.
[quote=briansd1]
In the past, the Catholic nuns did a fine job teaching the kids. And kids who don’t behave need a good spanking.
[/quote]
Sure.
And if the kids are really naughty a rape here and there will take care of that.‘Endemic’ rape and abuse of Irish children in Catholic care, inquiry finds
Beatings and humiliation by nuns and priests were common at institutions that held up to 30,000 children, Ryan report states
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/irish-catholic-schools-child-abuse-claims
May 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406339BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I totally agree.
I would like to see property taxes reduced to 0.5% and completely eliminate local K-12 funding.
Why should I pay for other people’s kids? People who have kids should pay for their own.
[/quote]Well, throngs of illiterate kids/adults could impact your quality of life more than 50% of your property taxes. Poor and illiterate people tend to have kids.
[quote=briansd1]
In the past, the Catholic nuns did a fine job teaching the kids. And kids who don’t behave need a good spanking.
[/quote]
Sure.
And if the kids are really naughty a rape here and there will take care of that.‘Endemic’ rape and abuse of Irish children in Catholic care, inquiry finds
Beatings and humiliation by nuns and priests were common at institutions that held up to 30,000 children, Ryan report states
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/irish-catholic-schools-child-abuse-claims
May 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM in reply to: OT: Schwarzenegger proposes the complete elimination of all state welfare programs #406486BGinRB
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I totally agree.
I would like to see property taxes reduced to 0.5% and completely eliminate local K-12 funding.
Why should I pay for other people’s kids? People who have kids should pay for their own.
[/quote]Well, throngs of illiterate kids/adults could impact your quality of life more than 50% of your property taxes. Poor and illiterate people tend to have kids.
[quote=briansd1]
In the past, the Catholic nuns did a fine job teaching the kids. And kids who don’t behave need a good spanking.
[/quote]
Sure.
And if the kids are really naughty a rape here and there will take care of that.‘Endemic’ rape and abuse of Irish children in Catholic care, inquiry finds
Beatings and humiliation by nuns and priests were common at institutions that held up to 30,000 children, Ryan report states
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/irish-catholic-schools-child-abuse-claims
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