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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Let’s suppose some Mexican or binational kids (a few hundred or a few thousands) are going to school in San Diego.
What’s the harm? They will become little Americans and adopt our culture taking is back to Mexico. That’s good for us.
Obviously those kids and parents can legally enter. If you make it difficult for them to attend school, they’ll just relocate here (because as was mentioned before, they are willing to make extraordinary sacrifices for their kids). So you end up with the same situation.[/quote]
I don’t think so . . . when they can rent a 4 bdrm, 2 bath SFR south of the border for $400 – $550 month . . . smaller SFRs are even cheaper.
Not gonna happen. That’s why thousands of US born “non-Hispanic” families and retirees live in BC in reasonably close proximity to SD.
It’s economical living, plain and simple …. and ability to have household help and forge their own deal to do so without all the tax hassles of living in the US.
It’s the same reason you (as a SD Native) are now living in LV, with its oppressive heat more than half the year, FIH. You made this decision to consciously avoid state income tax. Well, “professional couples” (doctors, dentists and lawyers, esp those who work close to the border) LOVE having a FT nanny with a car and a SENTRI pass, and a housekeeper as well. Hence, they are renting in MX (or buying property there if one or both of them are Mexican Nationals or dual citizens).
Participant[quote=ocrenter][quote=no_such_reality]Relocate to a walkable neighborhood . Walk to the grocery store. Walk to the pharmacy. Walk to the gym for lifts or the pool. Walk to work if you can..
10000-15000 steps a day.
The elliptical is nice for catching up on Netflix while you think you’re working out.[/quote]
true, we have created a bunch of these obesogenic cities in the last 50 years.
Wow, great videos and with great ideas from Medellin, Colombia, ocrenter! Escalators and ski gondolas would be a GREAT idea for a city such as SF! They could get rid of their aging and VERY unsightly overhead line system for cable cars and streetcars. Even SF’s “crookedest street” on Russian Hill and dozens of other back steps in SF District residential parks could be replaced with escalators with community squares built below with recycle and trash bins and doggie bag stands … even lease space to coffee stands, etc. This would increase neighborhood camaraderie as well.
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Some of the existing cable car routes could be replaced with ski gondolas. The only problem with this idea is that they would have to be closed periodically when high winds kicked up.
Downtown Chula Vista and surrounds are mostly flat as a pool table and very walkable. The vast majority of seniors around here over the age of 80 are still living in their homes because they can walk to all … and do … and public transportation is abundant. The generation I’m noticing who has the most problem with obesity are the K-12 students (age 6-18). Many of them are addicted to sweets and salty snacks and carry a regular size back of chips with them to school (not “snack size”). In addition, PE is now offered in elementary schools only 1-3 times per week, due to lack of public school staff and some PE staff having to be deployed to teach common core subjects. It doesn’t help that these kids’ parents get them iphones at the age of 8-10 and so they fool around with it after school instead of playing outside.
I swear by going to the gym but I’ve been a “gym rat” most of my life (and I would dislike purchasing, storing, dusting and maintaining gym equipment at home). The classes are great, especially “Body Pump” which I started attending just under two years ago. It really does increase your muscle mass in just a few months which helps your body burn more calories. Throw in 30-40 mins circuit training before or after class and it’s a great workout!
Since 2009, one gym round-trip for me takes 2.75 hrs (incl travel time) but I realize that FT workers raising families don’t have this kind of time 2 – 4x per week. I certainly didn’t when I was in that situation. Even if you just go there to attend class and leave, that’s probably under 1.5 hrs (or <1.75 hrs for pilates and <2 hrs for yoga). Even if you can only go 2x week, you will see the difference. Weight training included your regimen is key (Body Pump qualifies) ... start light with more reps.
Participant[quote=deadzone]That is one reason I would never live in the South Bay, it is for good reason they call it Chulajuana.[/quote]Oh, I think it happens all over SD as well, deadzone, especially at schools near trolley stops. It’s just usually more inconvenient for the parents to get their kids to school everyday the further north (and east) they have to take them (and get them picked in the afternoons from school or a trolley station).
South County schools, though mostly very good, are just far more “conveniently located” for this purpose, making the daily logistics work in the long term :=0
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I think the only creepy thing about the scene at the trolley station is what some might characterize as:
“A swarm of foreign kids invading our country. Pretty soon those kids will become soldiers of the new Aztlan Empire. The fate of White women would be too horrible to contemplate, and White men will be left to wander the earth.”
That kind of narrative has been spoken before.[/quote]
brian, you’re really REACHING with the assumptions you’re making ….
This phenom has NOTHING to do with any of this fantasy of yours. OR citizenship or race. It has to do with non-resident students (actually out-of-country residents, or “foreigners,” as you stated) taking public K-12 classroom seats away from bona-fide resident students.
Yes, I HAVE been there early in the am and also in the afternoon! I picked that particular station to discuss here because of its prime location connecting to 8 bus routes which take trolley riders to IB (to connect to Coronado from there) and San Diego via Chula Vista and National City, connecting along the way to Regional (CV & NC) bus routes which take same riders to at least 25 more K-12 public schools and 2 CC campuses. It’s the southernmost trolley “hub” of sorts. It’s a pretty fast and efficient system on a tight but frequent timetable. I’ve had to actually run to/from the bus to connect to the trolley several times when my car was in the shop.
A parent who just crossed the US/MX border can easily move on down the road to go to work in SD or turn westbound around the strand up to Coronado from there (for their hospitality job) after dropping their school-age kids off at this station. It’s common for 2 or more students from one family to be spread among different schools if their parent used fraudulent address(es) to enroll them. It’s also common for students to take different bus routes from their siblings/cousins (who were brought into the US with them that morning) to get to school. It only costs $36 month each for student bus/trolley passes (age 6-18).
Legitimate RESIDENT parents OF ALL races/Nationalities are livid over this situation, ESPECIALLY if they are paying high Mello Roos in a particular school attendance area which is overcrowded and/or their own kids couldn’t get into their “home” schools (or had to wait for a year or more on a waiting list to get into them).
Of course, not having any kids yourself, you wouldn’t understand the magnitude of the problem unless your own family experienced it. Hence, my suggestion to go visit this very public place which is NOT the same as “lurking on (or outside) school grounds.” I didn’t suggest you follow any kids onto the trolley … thus you won’t be stalking and its not “creepy.” But, even if you DID board a trolley some school kids got on and even subsequently boarded their bus with them to their school, as long as you don’t get off at their school with them, you won’t be accused of “stalking.”
If the 3 school districts in SD County most affected by this issue just had a handful of “residency compliance officers” on the payroll, they could very quickly learn much to help their district reduce and eventually eliminate this seemingly intractable problem … opening up hundreds (if not thousands) of slots in these schools for legitimate resident students and even inter-district transfers! But the reality is that these districts don’t really want to know.
As CAR suggested earlier, this is just one of those things that you have to see and experience for yourself.
You seem to be inventing phobias in your head here … or could they possibly be due to a recent “suggestion” made by none other than our resident troll, pri_dk?
Participantbrian, let’s be realistic here. The teacher’s unions don’t want to rock the boat on this issue, either. After all, a portion of each district’s schools are situated in older areas, where the vast majority of homeowners have grown children. If the district couldn’t move around students from one attendance area to another and/or fill slots in these under-capacity schools with whatever warm bodies applied for them with a “guardianship affidavit,” then that school likely wouldn’t have enough students for the district to be able to afford to keep it open. This would trickle down to possible layoffs and forced early retirements of the teachers and their unions don’t want that.
In other states (especially states which have very cold winters where schools have to run heat just to keep their plumbing from freezing), schools in older neighborhoods DO end up getting closed and the few students residing in them are bussed elsewhere to school. But I’ve never seen this happen in SD. At one time, Chula Vista High School had less than 400 students living within its attendance boundaries and the SUHSD was considering closing it. But alas, they found a way to keep it open by expanding its vocal music dept and accepting apps for out-of-area students who wanted to audition for a spot in one of their show choirs. It now has a whopping ~2700 students!
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I don’t really see a problem with documented bi-nationals who have family and jobs in San Diego. The kids could just as well be living in San Diego. Maybe they have 2 homes.
BG, you should live and let live. The gestapo was successful because well-meaning would snitch on one another.[/quote]
Oh yeah, I HAVE and DO “live and let live.” Honestly, I could care less anymore. But when I saw people get out of (dusty) old cars with MX plates to take their kids through the back entrance of my kid(s) elem school grounds every morning on the way to work (so they weren’t so “obvious” to the front office), it really angered me at the time. ALL of the vehicles had MX plates and some of the vehicles were so run down that I have no idea how they made it to/from SD every day. My neighbors were angry as well, but there was absolutely nothing any of us could do about it. My kids’ elem school just ended up setting up more temporary classrooms (which are still there today) and hiring 4 more FT teachers by about 2000. But those days are gone. Schools at or over capacity are just rejecting students now (in lieu of hiring).
After my kid(s) got in HS, they just laughed at the fact that a LOT of their classmates were driving vehicles with MX plates on them and parking them in the student parking lot! These HS students were obviously driving themselves to school every day (from TJ?). My kid(s) stated that many of their fellow students admitted to them that they lived in TJ.
The joke is on the SD County homeowner (esp the South County homeowner) with school-age kids.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Doesn’t seem practical, time wise, to commute everyday from Tijuana for school in San Diego. They would have to get up at 4:00am, endure delays at the border… missing school days, etc..
The border agents do ask questions to see if entry is legitimate (shopping, tourism… ).
My friend was recently turned back because he didn’t have his credit/debit card and didn’t have enough money for shopping. The border agent actually asked to see the money.
We probably have more problems with kids who live in bad areas attending school in better areas without residency.[/quote]
The parents are coming up to the US early, anyway, usually to work an early shift (many work in hotels, restaurants, landscaping, etc). The SENTRI lane isn’t that slow. And as I stated before, some of the parents ARE US citizens who are choosing to live in TJ because its housing is so much cheaper than SD and they can afford hired household help in MX. I also had several “professional” coworkers who chose to live in TJ with their families. All were bilingual and the ones who had kids had them enrolled in private schools in SD County. Back then, my co-workers DID put their kids in the car at 5:00 am but I hear it is a little faster now in the morning with the SENTRI lanes. Some had relatives on the US side whom they took their kids to in the mornings to dress for school and get taken to school later.
And yes, families living in areas where they don’t like the local school are forever utilizing any way can to transfer their kid to another school. The simplist way seems to be to use the “after-school care ruse,” whereby your after school caregiver is your relative who lives in LJ, etc and so your kid needs to attend school there so it will be convenient for your relative to pick them up. This doesn’t always work (and it doesn’t work well for HS/MS) but the parent doesn’t need to enter the kid in a lottery or complete an interdistrict transfer which has little chance of being admitted.
The families who live in attendance areas where one or more their schools are on the current NCLB list have more options. In this case, a district will even offer a student free bus transportation to a “better” school if their family qualifies for it.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Children at the trolley station is no indication of anyone crossing the border to attend school.
Mexican license plates could just mean the cars cannot be registered in california.
Maybe a better test would be to cross the border with a child dressed for school in the car. How early would you have to get up in the morning?[/quote]
VERY early, and believe me, these parents don’t mind. They like to beat the rush hour and they’re used to leaving for the US early in the am. And the kids ARE dressed for school. The border agent can ask the kids anything they want. 95% of the time, these kids have their own documentation available. It’s not the border agent’s job to determine if these kids are attending school in the US using fraudulent addresses.
[quote=spdrun] . . . As far as the school issue … crack down on shills signing guardian affidavits. If they know they’ll be billed for two times the cost of school plus legal costs, they might think twice.[/quote]
True story:
Back in the early nineties, the going rate for one of those “shills” was $40 per month per student … not sure what it is today. It was a very attractive proposition for a single parent collecting aid, even one renting under a “Section 8” contract! That’s $360 year per student per school year in income to collect school district mail for the student and forward it to the parents in MX!
In this era (and even moreso after “welfare reform” was passed in 1996), able-bodied parents were put to work at least 24 hrs per week by their social worker, to gain work experience, as a condition of their continued participation in their aid program(s). As such, we had two “moms” collecting aid who were catching up our backlog of filing for us for a few months in my local govm’t office. They had known each other prior to coming to work for us and BOTH of them bragged during breaks and lunch how they were making money (under the table) hand over fist by “selling” their addresses to Mexican parents to fulfill the public school residency requirement (the “guardian affidavit requirement” as we know it today was not yet in place). One of these “aid workers” (both always well-dressed, lol) claimed that 27 students used her (2-bdrm) rental home’s address to prove their residency for the school district and the other aid worker claimed she had 43 students that year using the address of her (3 bdrm) rental home for a residency requirement. They got away with “sponsoring” so many students because EACH SCHOOL at the time only knew the addresses of the students which attended their own school and these shills “sponsored” kids (even within the same family) attending several different area schools.
So me and two coworkers (who had kid(s) enrolled in CVESD schools) eventually got together and wrote the then CVESD Superintendent, (the now infamous) Ed Brand a carefully worded letter, naming names and quoting them, documenting addresses, even giving him two very obviously boarded-up local homes to “look into” as being used for addresses for students attending certain after-school daycare homes so they (the after school-care students) could attend a “better” elementary school and the provider could pick them all up at one school.
About a month later, we got a polite one-page reply letter signed for him by his secretary essentially thanking us for the info but stating that a) the district doesn’t have the staff to check out every address on student residency verification forms for legitimacy or to see who actually lives there (we only asked them to check out 4 addresses); and, 2) the TWO employees employed by the district to check on students at home were hired solely for truant officer duties. He then stated that he would attempt to create a “task force” to develop a plan to “cross-reference” addresses used to attend one school against addresses used to attend other schools in the same district and thanked us for the “suggestion” (we didn’t make that suggestion, but ok). He further went on to say that even if CVESD could cross-reference addresses used from school to school this doesn’t fix the problem of the same address being also used for local secondary school residency purposes (SUHSD). However, he didn’t volunteer to forward our letter to SUHSD or even mention the problem to that superintendent.
Waaah … Brand’s poor “hands were tied,” folks, and, of course, he didn’t have to mention it to us but we ALL knew that it wasn’t in the District’s “best interest” to disenroll students who were regularly occupying their warm seats.
The buck stops with the superintendent, folks. If he/she’s not willing to do anything about the problem, then there is nothing any parent can do except take time out of their jobs to contact their representative (with evidence of residency fraud?) and/or periodically testify before the Legislature on this subject with same. In these parts, complaining to the school board (sadly) won’t do any good :=0
Of course, our infamous Ed Brand has since done the “super” stint three more times in two other SD County school districts (SUHSD twice) and was eventually forced out of SMUSD with a $410K buyout offer … just to get rid of him without facing a lawsuit. Then the (stupid) SUHSD Board took him back, much to the chagrin of the teachers and parents:
http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070124/news_1mi24supe.html
http://mauralarkins.com/EdBrandSweetwaterSuperintendent.html
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2014/jun/30/sweetwater-board-brand-superintendent-leave/
http://www.10news.com/news/sweetwater-board-votes-to-remove-superintendent-ed-brand-06302014
Finally, the SUHSD Board saw the light and voted (with “interim” trustees borrowed from SD County BoE casting 4 out of 5 votes, lol) to place their (two-time) Superintendent Brand on (fully paid) “administrative leave” three months before his ($252K annual) contract expired (he had already announced his “retirement” two months prior). This was nearly 23 years after our detailed letter of complaint (with attachments and photos), folks, and the student residency fraud problem still persists, in spite of a few minor “residency procedure” reforms (such as the bogus “guardian affidavit form”) which were enacted in the interim. I’m not blaming Brand for all of it, but he was definitely a big part of a (corrupt?) systemic dysfunction which completely looked the other way to this situation in a public school district whose southernmost schools were just over two miles from the US/MX border. Hence, the “ousting” of four SUHSD board members (and the super prior to Brand’s 2nd stint) due to their guilty pleas on various corruption charges.
When the rest of those (expensive) CFD’s in Chula Vista were built out after about 2003 or so, all h@ll broke loose among those homeowner parents who were paying very high Mello Roos for their local schools which didn’t have space for their own kids . . . and rightly so. By their sheer numbers, these parents seemed to be a lot more effective than me or my co-workers were back in the day. (The reality is that our kids didn’t attend schools built with MR bond money and thus we weren’t “damaged” enough to have our complaint taken seriously.)
If you have enough time and energy to fight “city hall” in bureaucratic Cali, spdrun, I say, go for it! I’ve already expended way too much of my talents/expertise in this regard with little to zero results to show for it and I’m done (and my kids are now long gone). Have at it. And Good Luck to all :=0
Participant[quote=spdrun][quote=bearishgurl]If an infusion of 2 million Syrians seeking refuge from their war-torn existence can do same and buy/lease (from FNMA/HUD?) the bulk of Detroit’s vacant eyesores, fix them up a little and start small businesses themselves, then maybe the city can eventually right itself on the map again. [/quote]
I’d actually disagree with ghettoizing a large % of the refugees in Detroit — it would actually prevent assimilation. I’d advocate encouraging 100,000 or so to settle there, with the remainder distributed to other US cities and towns.[/quote]
Isn’t there an existing American population in Detroit for newcomers to “assimilate” with? I don’t know how big Detroit’s actual population is. Is it too small in any one given area to have any influence on newcomers?
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I doubt it’s true.
I know a guy who crosses frequently. The border patrol grill him which causes him to be frequently late. They ask him. What are you coming for? Shopping? Where’s your money? Where’s your credit card?
Sometimes he’s sent to secondary inspection.The kids would be late to school all the time and they would fail. Plus they would have to lie to the border patrol as to the reason for crossing.[/quote]
brian, don’t you have a flexible schedule?? Why don’t you drive to aforementioned trolley station next time you’re down here. Make sure you get there by 6:30 to 6:45 am on a weekday and stay at least one hour. Alternate observing the parking lot drop-off zone and sitting on the benches with trolley riders. I guarantee you’ll get an eyeful.
Participant[quote=harvey][quote=CA renter] Thousands of “Mexican” kids (yes, crossing the US border every single weekday) attend US public schools and community college in SD and Imperial counties. [/quote]
Oh my, we’ve got children getting an education and bettering their lives!
We need to hire more government workers to stop all of this government spending![/quote]
Uhh, no pri_dk, the districts don’t hire any more workers. They simply stop accepting students for an (overcrowded) school. If a resident with school-age children legitimately moves into the area of a public school their kids would have attended which has reached capacity, their kids are placed in another district school which has room for them which may or may not be close by. If the new resident is a taxpayer paying Mello Roos for schools in the particular attendance area of their new home, their kids may or may not be able to attend those schools which they are paying for.
That’s the reality on the ground. I’m not sure which planet you dropped in from.
Oh, and um, that was MY quote, not CA renter’s.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, did you read the Politico article about immigration needed for Detroit?
If we closed the borders, we would begin to atrophy like Japan. Our wealth would slowly decrease, in real terms and relative to faster growing countries.
We need more legal immigration to keep young and vibrant. If fact, I think we should take in 2 million out of the 4 million Syrian refugees. We can easily do that. But I know that it’s not doable politically.[/quote]
brian, the reason Detroit still has so many vacant homes is 1) most of its well-paying jobs disappeared long ago, along with the bulk of its former workforce; and 2) its weather is among the worst in the nation all year (even their summers are humid and and full of mosquitos).
That (and crumbling infrastructure in many of its neighborhoods) is the reason why one can still buy a dilapidated single family home (which hasn’t been occupied in at least a decade) for <$50K in Detroit. It is what it is. From what I've read, it seems that some Gen Y have gone in there to start small businesses and try to turn it around, section by section. If an infusion of 2 million Syrians seeking refuge from their war-torn existence can do same and buy/lease (from FNMA/HUD?) the bulk of Detroit's vacant eyesores, fix them up a little and start small businesses themselves, then maybe the city can eventually right itself on the map again. Detroit is not representative of the rest of the country. It is an island unto itself.
Participant[quote=spdrun]bearishgurl —
(1) Mexicans are a nationality not a uniform racial group. Saying “Mexicans are white” would be like saying “Americans are white.” They’re generally some mixture of white and Amerindian. There are also Middle Eastern and Asian communities (Carlos Slim = Carlos SAlim = Lebanese roots), among other groups.Other Hispanics (Dominicans, Cubans, Panamanians especially) more often have African blood thrown into the mix. Don’t equate “Hispanic” with “Mexican” either, since “Hispanic” is a linguistic and regional term, not a nationality. “Latino” adds the Portuguese speaking country in South America to the mix 🙂
(2) Non-residents shouldn’t go to public schools in San Diego for free. Doesn’t matter if they come from Mexico or Fallbrook. Schools should enforce residency requirements better on all people.
This being said, with the goatfawk that border control has become, I find it hard to believe that they cross the border every day. That would take HOURS. Could they be living somewhere locally and driving around on Mexican plates? (Which then becomes a DMV issue if they don’t register in the US.)[/quote]
Yes, I realize the term “Hispanic” could mean many different mixtures of “nationalities” depending on where their ancestors originated from and what region of Latin America they are from. But they are technically considered Caucasians.
These “Mexican” students (of all “colors,” btw) essentially “stealing” free seats in SD and Imperial County public schools are being driven across the border every weekday morning by their parents or other relatives, most of whom possess work visas and SENTRI passes. A parent who is a Mexican National can secure another SENTRI pass or border-crossing card for each of their children. Also, any of their children who were born in the US can carry their birth certificate in the vehicle in case it is needed at the border crossing.
http://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/sentri/eligibility/children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Crossing_Card
Also, anyone feel free correct me if I’m wrong here but a US border officer will sometimes not ask to see any documentation for obvious minors in the vehicle if the driver possessing the SENTRI pass states to the officer that the children riding with them are theirs.
Practically speaking, I’m sure these parents aren’t necessarily overt about the purposes of bringing the children across the border every morning (backpacks in the trunk, etc). Many Mexican parents (or grandparents) also pay tuition so their children/grandchildren can attend private school in the US while the parents work, which is perfectly legal. But as long as Great Auntie Esperanza (twice removed, lol), a longtime homeowner in Chula Vista, etc, is willing to have notarized and file a “guardian affidavit” (school district form) for each child with the appropriate school district(s), and accept all the district mailings for those child(ren), these kids are admitted to a public school in the attendance area of said friend/relative. For example, CA school districts will NOT mail any grade reports/transcripts to Mexican addresses.
Even if most or all of a Mexican National’s children were actually born in the US, many elect to continue to reside in the Tijuana area to be near other close family members and also save 70-80% on housing costs (as opposed to SD County). As do a lower percentage of American-born people of all races who are NOT Hispanic.
Yes, it somewhat muddies the waters that many of these kids successfully “stealing” seats in SD and Imperial County public schools are actually US citizens. But the state law refers only to residency as the basis for admission to its public K-12 schools, NOT nationality.
ParticipantBack to the OP … brian, do you not think if the US borders were closed to further immigration tomorrow that the US does not now have enough people to sustain it now and on into the future?
And is the US somehow going to be short workers and professionals in every field if they don’t keep accepting H1B visa applications, etc??
And lastly, who do you think does the vast majority of “grunt work” in northern states and in flyover country states which are more than 1000 miles from the US border? I’m speaking here of cattle ranching, sheep herding, hay baling and transport, septic/leachfield cleanout, truck loading and unloading, running farming equipment and other heavy equipment, collecting eggs, milking, cleaning out slaughterhouses, etc …. Um, more often than not, it’s “white” and “black” people . . . usually longtime residents or natives of that area and/or state … or “heirs” of the farm or ranch they’re working on. Every single agricultural area in the US isn’t completely infiltrated with “Mexicans.”
If there were no illegal workers in CA performing these duties, then the legal residents would have to take them over, plain and simple. If your longtime home is off the SR-99 for example, you have to take whatever job is available at the time or move. I know several people, who by all observations, look “white and are “white” but grew up in the likes of Delhi, Merced, Colusa, Turlock, Lodi, Visalia, etc. Most in their 60’s now, they never wanted to leave their family members behind and thus never moved away from their hometowns. All their lives, they worked at whatever jobs were available in their areas and some of them are still working part-time.
CA doesn’t need illegal immigrants and it certainly doesn’t need any more. Unfunded Federal mandates to take care of every undocumented worker and their families (medically, keeping food banks stocked, schooling w/”free breakfast/lunch program”) is absolutely financially crippling this state and many of its counties to the point where many local public agencies can barely function and run out of money long before June 30 every year.
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