[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Hobie][quote]I would argue that a typical silicon valley engineer would be smarter than an oil drill worker in North Dakota.[/quote]

Seriously? The dripping arrogance and elitism of this post makes me ill.

By the way, there is no such thing as an ‘oil drill’.
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Objectively the guy with the higher academic credentials is smarter. Nothing to feel ill about. That’s just the way we define things. Maybe unfair or not that humane but we like objective measures.[/quote]That doesn’t mean he/she is superior and deserves more rights than someone working in the oil fields.

BTW, those young oilfield workers make enough cash to be set for life in about 7-8 years (if they work FT and will travel at whim wherever they are needed). They can save almost their entire paycheck because the contractors they work for put them up at local hotels or company-owned mobile homes and give them a per-diem for meals. And they aren’t typically stationed close to cities where they can easily spend loads of money. Most of them get one sit-down restaurant meal and catch a movie in a small town each week and then it’s back to work. It’s a GREAT way for a non-college-educated male (need to be very strong) to get way ahead in life at a young age. Especially one who can’t afford to finish college without taking out loans.

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flyer, you well know that that little plan by SV “power brokers” will never see the light of day, much less make it on any CA ballot. I don’t care WHO introduces it or HOW MUCH venture capital is thrown at it.

It’s dead in the water (as all looney-tune proposals coming from whacked-out nutcases should be) :=0

[bearishgurl]

[quote=outtamojo][quote=flyer]Here’s what some are proposing:

http://fusion.net/story/368445/shervin-california-secession/

Might sound like a great idea until tech and other bubble industries burst again, and they are all out on the street, leaving the rest of us holding their bag. No thanks.[/quote]

Like the bags we already hold for the red moocher states?[/quote]Which red states are you referring to, outtamojo? TX, which has a HUGE illegal immigrant population (although not as high as CA’s) sucking up the freebies and sneaking over the border every day to attend school? How about OK (where EVERY.single.county voted Trump, lol) where a large portion of residents have gas and oil lease income, many people grow and can and even butcher their own food and 537,000 of its residents are eligible for Indian Health Services (IHS)? I have over 150 relatives in these states and although I believe two of them are on SSD, I don’t know of even ONE who is even getting food stamps, much less any form of “welfare.”

And are you aware that in most “red states,” the cash “welfare benefit” is actually one-half (or less) than it is in CA? Do you honestly think people can live on that without working under the table?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=flu][quote=harvey][quote=flu]Here’s food for thought. What if, instead of the supreme Court deciding women rights, gay rights, seperation of church and state for the entire country, the supreme Court just ruled permanently that those rights would be decided strictly by the states individually…

That way if the majority of a state wanted to ban abortion, they can ban abortion. And those states that are pro choice, can have pro choice… And then if the states laws don’t fit your belief system…well, move to a state that does.?

The federal government would then only be responsible for defense of the country, some infrastructure, and some research and development.[/quote]

Wow.

You just missed the entire meaning of the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.[/quote]

Maybe, but wouldn’t it solve the problem? i mean that way red states that want their ultra conservative “values” can have it in their respective states. And folks here in CA can have want we want. And then people will tend to gravity to where they feel comfortable living?

The problem with U.S. is since it’s a medley of different people with different views, cultures, norms,etc. Perhaps, a “one size fit all” doesn’t exactly work.[/quote]flu, seriously, 90% of US residents would “feel comfortable” living in coastal CA. But cost of housing is an issue for them. In most cases, that is the ONLY reason why they’re not already here. Many of those “deplorables” in flyover America DO have the skills to compete for CA-based high-tech jobs. Do you really want them all here applying for jobs when we already crank out dozens of new CA Native engineering graduates out of at least 32 CA public universities and numerous CA-based private universities every single May, June and December?

[bearishgurl]

Why don’t you read those two articles on academic studies on this issue I just provided here, FIH. You might learn something.

Based on my experience last Saturday on the street in two large neighborhoods just south of East Tropicana Ave in the “Paradise” and “Whitney” areas of your fine city, I believe LV also has quite a few illegal immigrants. Yes, hospitality workers have to furnish original documents for a Form I-9 to be hired. I get that. But they have parents up to 85 years old “hiding” in back bdrms. I don’t know how many of them are actually registered to vote, however. I believe they were brought to the US to take care of children and the home because these workers are subject to work any of three shifts (day, swing, or graveyard) and even back-to-back shifts (8 hrs apart) at the whim of their employer. We all know that LV is a 24-hour city.

I know this because I have a relative who retired from Sam’s Town and now has a union pension.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, voter registration in Spanish is suspicious to you?

That’s the only thing I got from your long post full of assumptions.[/quote]No. ~70% of the vehicles parked next to the “tabling event” held in the back of the campus bearing MX license plates, YES! Voter Registration applicants leaving the tables after turning in their apps to the Clinton campaign workers and getting into their MX-plated vehicles, YES!

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Um, last I checked, HRC only won the popular vote by 200,000 votes! It’s been argued that there are 11M “unauthorized immigrants” currently living in the US (I personally believe that number is closer to 16K and that there are 8-9K of them residing in CA alone). Assuming that 2/3 of that ~11M are NOT minors or prisoners, that leaves approx 7,340,000 “unauthorized immigrants” throughout the nation, who, by hook or crook, could have (surreptitiously or out in the open, depending on locale) registered to vote this year or in a prior election cycle and didn’t move. A (Hispanic) friend brought these two enlightening (2015) articles to my attention just this morning:

see: http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/poll-13-of-illegal-aliens-admit-they-vote/

Assuming arguendo that only 13% of the ~7,340,000 voted in the general election this year (as the article above suggests ADMITTED to doing so) we can surmise that at least 954,200 or nearly 1M “unauthorized immigrants” illegally residing in the US voted in the general election this year.

I personally believe that number is closer to 3-4M.

NONE of this group would have voted for Trump. And NONE of them would waste their vote on a third-party candidate. ALL of their votes would have gone to HRC, for obvious reasons. The presence of HRC on the ballot was the only catalyst for members of this group to register at all.

It is VERY possible that Trump very likely won the LEGAL popular vote. Unfortunately, CA DOES NOT WANT to clean up their voter rolls of ineligible voters, as evidenced by its passage of AB-60 (eff: 1/1/15) combined with the (very deliberate) passage of its new “Motor Voter Law” (eff: 1/1/16). Our esteemed Dem-controlled Legislature likes it just the way it is.

Oh . . . and as of last night, there were still 620,000 mail-in ballots to be counted at the SD County Registrar of Voters (likely all of them). I wonder how many of those were mailed to legitimate addresses of SD County-based friends and relatives and picked up by MX residents to/from their way to work to be later returned by mail. Bill Clinton’s speech on behalf of HRC at BVHS on May 21 of this year registered dozens in this “‘binational’ worker-bee-group” (living in MX/working in US). I observed with my own eyes their “tabling event” set up in front of the student theatre and completely conducted in Spanish. The adjacent teacher parking lot was filled with dusty vehicles bearing MX license plates, as was the HUGE football-field shaped student parking lot in front of the school and well as the spillover parking lot at the SW corner of Otay Lakes and H Streets (now a SWC construction site). I drove thru ALL the parking lots while the rally was in progress and parked on a side street and got out of my car to observe the tabling event more closely (the corrupt Clinton machine at work, doing what they do best).

I have no doubt that some of those new voter registrations were those of (non-resident) parents who had kids enrolled in that school.

CA voters weren’t “disenfranchised” in this election We had our say (as we ALWAYS do) and we furnished nearly 50% of the electoral votes attributed to HRC on 11/8. We’re not responsible if voters in other states felt differently. The CA Piggs who feel disaffected can cut the nonsense and stop whining now . . . or move :-0.

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[quote=spdrun]Hey bearishgurl, you won. Congratulations! Why do you have to be an insufferable beyotch about it? You strike me as the mean girl in high school, and you haven’t grown up beyond that point apparently.[/quote]Oh, C’mon, spd (as Pres. Obama would say), I like to yank brian/FIH’s chain … just as he constantly does to me. After all, HE is the one who said I would be eating crow :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=NotCranky]Good job BG,

Now hopefully the self righteous celebrity, self deluded cosmopolitan types will submit like they should.[/quote]

Yeah fine. I submit. I have to spend some quiet time to reprogram my computer to better read the pulse of the country. BG was right.

At least I got Nevada right and Catherine Cortez Masto was elected. But I extrapolated to other parts of the country. There are many more deplaorable than I thought.[/quote]Um . . . HRC won your esteemed State of NV by just 26,434 votes (2.4% of the vote), with 100% of precincts reporting. Could it possibly be that at least that many “unauthorized immigrants” made it thru your voter registration process and got to the polls to successfully cast their vote for her on or before election day . . . that is, those residing in NV’s only two populous counties (with JOBS), Clark and Washoe (plus county-independent Carson City, where thousands of Lake Tahoe workers live)?

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/nevadal

Cortez-Masto won her senate seat with 26,231 more votes than Heck (also 2.4% of the vote).

It appears that there were only 1,049,072 votes cast in NV for President and 1,015,085 votes cast for the Senate seat. Considering NV’s population is 2,890,845 and ~1/3 of that number are likely minors and prisoners, that leaves a roughly 50% turnout for the general election. What say you?

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, i can’t wait for you to eat crow next Tuesday. AZ is not so deep red anymore thanks to Latinos.
Joe Arpaio will lose.[/quote]Crashing this party late due to being up late with some of my fellow deplorables at Golden Hall :=]

Well peeps, the fat lady was able to get in 3 encores last night, a trifecta of red perfection, I’d say 🙂

Apparently, there either weren’t enough Latino VOTERS to make a difference in AZ (through low numbers or indifference or both) ….. OR a good portion of them were ineligible to register to vote (ask yourself why).

brian, you’re a “foodie” of sorts, aren’t you?

Why don’t you have some of your “cosmopolitan” friends over to a post-election party? Here are some new recipes you can try:

http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/cast-iron-chef/cooking-crow-meat-recipe-blackbird-pie

http://bertc.com/subfive/recipes/threecrows.htm

http://www.crowbusters.com/recipes.html

http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,crow,FF.html

Bon Appetit!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I used to live downtown and had 2 parking spaces.

My brother lived downtown and had 1 space. His girlfriend parked on the street and they paid a homeless guy to watch the car. Never got broken into.[/quote]That is not the kind of life I want, thank you. I want a LOCKED GARAGE of my own to park in and be able to back out of my driveway easily (without the nose of an F-250 sticking out into my driveway apron). And I like a driveway wide enough to have side pkg for a vehicle so the vehicle(s) parked in the garage can back out of the garage without hitting the vehicle in the side pkg (a driveway wide enough for boat/RV pkg). And I don’t want any homeless people hanging around my ‘hood and going thru my trash and recycle bins on trash day, thank you. And I don’t want to look out my front window and have my front view blocked by huge SUVs and trucks parked at my curb all day every day. And I am not alone. I think if you will poll the Piggs, you will find that NONE of this is too much to ask.

You live however you want to, FIH. Different strokes for different folks.

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[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=spdrun]Parking in San Diego is a cakewalk as compared to most similarly-sized US cities. OMG, you might have to walk a block after finding a spot![/quote]

Haha. That’s how I feel. There’s no traffic in San Diego. People are so needy.

neighborhoods in San Diego can easily double density without new infrastructure. Then we can have public transport[/quote]FIH, I can tell by your comment that YOU have never lived on a street that is constantly lined with cars on both sides 24/7 (some parked nearly blocking driveway aprons and touching the red zones). And YOU have never had neighbors with 4 or more vehicles where their garage was full of junk and their driveway only holds 1-2 vehicles :=0

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[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, you gonna to be very dissapointed.

Tomorrow, I’m hosting a little election watch party at my apartment. We’re going to have global elite fare — champagne, caviar, sushi. maybe a papaya shrimp salad… You know, the same stuff Trump serves at his super model parties.[/quote]

Umm . . .

Methinks that FIH/brian (our “in-house transplant” from SD to LV) has been living in a self-imposed “condo bubble.” He seems to be blissfully unaware what is actually going on amongst the masses of the “unwashed deplorables” in the streets of his esteemed (adopted) city and county :=0

[bearishgurl]

[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=FlyerInHi]
All you have to do is listen to Spanish Language media. The opposition to Trump is strong. Don’t understand why the MSM says Nevada is in play.

Any predictions, anyone? Being right makes you a winner. ;)[/quote]

Whatever Nate Silver says.

I think with Nevada the remaining uncertainty is the fact Clinton hasn’t broken 50% in any polls. There are enough undecideds and Gary Johnson voters that if they broke hard for Trump at the end it could flip.

The media is portraying Pennsylvania as in play, but the polls there routinely show Clinton up by about 10. Unless the polls are very wrong, it’s going Clinton.[/quote]poorgradstudent, I just got back late last night from a 2-day/2-night precinct-walking blitz thru Clark County, NV with the Trump CA Strike team, which sent 4 busloads from LA/OC and 2 busloads from OAK to Reno on Friday. A TX Republican PAC generously funded our bus transportation and lodging and another *busload* arrived from CA by private vehicle.

We were warmly welcomed at the Las Vegas Trump HQ with a “Welcome CA Deplorables” sign where we were greeted by several tables of NV volunteers. We were treated to personal appearances by Ben Carson (Sat morn) and Rudy Guiliani (Sun morn) at Trump LV HQ where they were also conducting poll-watcher training meetings for volunteers. I met some great people (a few from SD).

My group of four precinct walkers hit three large subdivisions from Sat to Sun to primarily survey intent to vote. Saturday, our voters were largely Latino residing in a mixture of older tract homes as well as streets with ~1/2 AC lots. On Sunday, we worked solely in a very large over-55 SFR development. All in all, we saw dozens of Trump yard signs and chimney/second-story Trump banners as well as several “crooked Hillary” handmade posters on garage doors. All of the doors who answered to our group members (about 50%) on Saturday were polite and almost none of them had voted yet but intended to on election day. Most knew where their polling place was and a few had to be reminded with a door hanger. A few asked for extra door hangers to give away. Older residents frequently spoke Spanish only but a couple of them nodded enthusiastically when I stated I was a volunteer for the Trump campaign to get out the vote. I was able to speak enough Spanish to ask them if they knew where their polling place was and give them a door hanger with the address. The younger Latino residents also had not voted yet, but intended to. Since we were in the street wearing Trump T-shirts and hats all day, a passel of local Deplorables driving by in pool-service pickups, plumbing vans and landscaping pickups all stopped to give us a thumbs up and thank us for our efforts. So did front desk personnel, waitresses and bellhops. I saw numerous Trump bumper stickers (all over the back of the vehicle, actually) and nicely-outfitted Trump dogs. One voter came out from behind his high-walled backyard and told us that he named his new pitbull pup “Trump.”

In the senior-citizen ‘hood, there were a lot of TV’s going on and we got 3 doors slammed on us …. either they took one look at us and turned about-face or stated they didn’t want to have anything to do with politics (obviously suffering from “election fatigue”). We managed to sway one undecided to vote Trump. The vast majority who answered their doors (~50%) had already made their minds up to vote Trump and half had done so during NV’s 2 early in-person voting weeks in October. The rest already knew where their polling places were and most of this group stated they would vote in the middle of the day (to save time) and took door hangers from us with their polling places on them. One lady told me that her daughter was also precinct walking for Trump and gave her a stack of door hangers which she had been spreading around. On two occasions, the senior-citizen couple got into a fight because (1) the wife said she was only voting Trump cuz her husband wanted her to and (2) the husband took one look at us and told us to get off his property and then his wife ran down the sidewalk after us and wanted a flyer and thanked us for our efforts, lol …..

btw, our ~400-strong CA Strike Team of “Deplorables” consisted of Chinese, Filipino, Taiwanese, a few Russians, Lebanese, Iranians, Hispanics, Caucasians, African Americans and all combinations thereof. We also had 3 attorneys (that I know of) one physician, several nurses, lots of IT people as well as outside salespeople and public school employees. I would say that half of them were “retired.” There was also a NV college-student volunteer group who split up to walk precincts. :=0

We were the second to the last group of the CA Strike Team to leave for home on Sunday and at least 75 NV volunteers were still there at HQ at that time busily calling voters with their mini laptops and headsets.

Oh, and I just learned a few minutes ago from a friend that Longtime Dem Supporter and Donor Steve Wynn has now strongly “intimated” to Fox’s Neil Cavuto this afternoon that he has decided to vote for Trump at the 11th hour …. for a variety of very good reasons. Yes, even though he professes to be longtime friends of Bill and Hill, lol …. I hope his (now public) announcement influences his many thousands of “worker bees” in LV and Reno to likewise vote for Trump.

The “fat lady” has now begun warming up her pipes, folks . . . may the show go on!

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OK, I’ll stick my neck out a little on election eve. Trump takes AZ, NV, FL and NC. And UT, if that state is still “in play.” I’m still studying the other tossup states plus the ones Trump is trying to “steal” from the Dems. Hopefully …. more later today.

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