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ParticipantHere is another article which fills in the details of Ruffin’s $1M “campaign contribution.”
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]BG, if Phil Ruffin sent a $1 million check, Trump had to return it because there are limits to direct contributions. Look it up.
Contributors are responsible to make sure they comply. Ruffin has lawyers and he’s not dumb.It was a stunt made for TV so Trump can claim independence from big money, and you fell for it.[/quote]I didn’t “fall” for anything, FIH. Did you read the interview of Ruffin provided in the link?
…They were having dinner at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago mansion in Palm Beach, Fla., when the subject came up, according to Ruffin. For Ruffin, there was one vital question: Why would Trump want to subject himself to a potentially bruising political campaign given all he had accomplished?
Trump responded that the country was broken and he knew he could fix it, Ruffin said in an interview Tuesday at his Treasure Island office. Despite Ruffin’s initial advice against the campaign, he vowed to give $1 million to his friend’s presidential run, if it ever came to pass — a promise he said he fulfilled after Trump’s campaign launched last year.
But Trump didn’t take the money.
“He immediately sent it back,” Ruffin said. Trump reiterated a standard campaign bragging point — that he’s a self-funded candidate — and said he wouldn’t budge on that, even for Ruffin.
While Trump would not accept a big campaign contribution, according to Ruffin, the candidate did accept help in another way. Last week, Ruffin and his wife donated $1 million at a Des Moines, Iowa, fundraiser for veterans that Trump held instead of participating in the Republican debate.
Ruffin said he made the donation because “it was a good cause” and was in line with his other charitable interests. He said the donation was more about charity than supporting Trump as a candidate.
Still, Ruffin’s donation and presence at the Des Moines event made him a crucial supporter during a key moment in his friend’s highly controversial campaign. Ruffin’s contribution was among about $6 million raised by that event, including $1 million from Trump and $500,000 from investor Carl Icahn, owner of the mothballed Fontainebleau Las Vegas project, according to media reports…
http://vegasinc.com/business/gaming/2016/feb/03/interview-with-phil-ruffin-why-he-thinks-trump-wou/
Okay, it’s not clear here whether this check from Ruffin (which Trump sent back) was actually a $1M check or a smaller one with the promise of more to come (from Ruffin’s various enterprises). I’m SURE BOTH of these billionaries are aware of the legal limits on the various types of campaign contributions. They’re both very successful businessmen. Based upon how close Ruffin states he and Trump were in the interview, I don’t see him promising to donate $1M to the Trump campaign for publicity for himself or to create a “publicity stunt” for Trump to stump on. But Trump ended up using the incident in the Iowa caucus because he could, which made Ruffin “come out of the closet” about it in this early February interview.
Ruffin is 80 years old and is a “dust bowl refugee.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Ruffin
These folks aren’t wired to bring undue attention to themselves.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl] Umm, FIH? As a matter of public record, Trump is a “billionaire.”
2016 Presidential candidates’ net worth: Donald Trump vs. Bernie Sanders and more
He has plenty of money to “build an organization” and likely already has one in the works.
Trump knows plenty of influential people and, as you know, recently refused a $1M campaign donation from Phil Ruffin, owner of the Treasure Island Resort and Casino.
If the rest of the Republican candidates end up dropping like flies one by one because they can’t catch up with Trump the “Republican establishment” will have no choice but to get behind Trump. The next few weeks will tell the tale.[/quote]
Trump is full of hot air.
Celebrity and resentment is what is winning now.
The reason that Trump lost in Iowa is because he didn’t have an organization on the ground (which as you know takes years and an establishment to build).
Trump has been very stingy with spending money on the campaign trail… I don’t think that has that much money (relative to the billionaire class). If he wins the nomination, the will have to release this tax returns and other filings and we will see more into his wealth.
Phil Ruffin owns the Trump tower in Vegas. It is Phil Ruffin’s land that it’s built on. I think the $1 million contribution that Trump “declined” is just made for TV.
Like I said, we will see if the Republican establishment backs Trump. I’m loving this because I believe that the Republican party is self destructing. Let’s watch the reality show. That’s what makes life interesting.[/quote]Trump only decided he was going to run last summer, correct? He’s not a “career politician.” Acc to Ruffin, he actually sent the Trump campaign a check and Trump had it sent back to him. They’re “old friends.”
http://vegasinc.com/business/gaming/2016/feb/03/interview-with-phil-ruffin-why-he-thinks-trump-wou/
I don’t think Trump cares what happens to the Republican Party. He would have ran on an independent ticket if he thought he could be as successful in his campaign.
Yeah, I DO believe he says a lot of things just to keep the attention on his campaign. But I don’t think that’s who is really is. A lot of stuff that comes out of his mouth (that doesn’t have anything to do with his stance on the issues) is just for effect (such as the comments he makes about protestors on his campaign trail). The general public is used to “sensationalism” coming from his camp because he was a “reality TV” celebrity. He is a master at manipulating the MSM and it seems to work for him.
Four or eight years from now, when we are in another election cycle, voters aren’t going to care or remember what went on in the POTUS campaigns of 2016. It will be biz as usual and of course, the Republican Party will still be there. The general public has a short attention span.
ParticipantWhether Protestant or Catholic, there are a LOT of “evangelicals” and very conservative Christians as well as a large Mormon population in South County SD. This is more in the Republicans’ favor than the dems, I would think. We’ll see how the voter registrations, precinct by precinct wash out by June. It’s going to be an interesting election year, to say the least :=0
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Not sure if he will get the support of the Republican establishment, but if he doesn’t he won’t win for sure because he doesn’t have an organization. He’s too stingy, and not as rich as he says, to build an organization. . . [/quote]Umm, FIH? As a matter of public record, Trump is a “billionaire.”
2016 Presidential candidates’ net worth: Donald Trump vs. Bernie Sanders and more
He has plenty of money to “build an organization” and likely already has one in the works.
Trump knows plenty of influential people and, as you know, recently refused a $1M campaign donation from Phil Ruffin, owner of the Treasure Island Resort and Casino.
If the rest of the Republican candidates end up dropping like flies one by one because they can’t catch up with Trump, the “Republican establishment” will have no choice but to get behind Trump. The next few weeks will tell the tale.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl] the illegal or temp work visa group working in the CA ag industry who is sending home regular “remittances” to their families back in MX that Trump proposes to block if MX refuses to pay for a wall. [/quote]
I have not heard Trump say that the would seize remittances lately.
He implies however that we have trade deficits with Mexico and China and we will somehow not pay them unless they do what we want. And according to Trump, they will be “thrilled” to submit.[/quote]I’ll try to find the link, FIH. I believe he said it in either OH or NH (or both). It was recent. That is his “leverage” with MX, among other things. He also proposed that MX be compelled to send the US a list of their felons so we can vet them at the time of their application for a visa.
He doesn’t plan for the US to “seize” the remittances. Trump proposes to prohibit US banks from processing them. Not sure about his plans for prohibiting the mailing of money orders. MO’s represent over half or more of all the remittances regularly sent to MX.
Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]The Smog check thing is a scam setup to get people to buy new cars etc… IMO.
I have a friend who moved to a small town in nor-cal (to retire) where they don’t have the smog test requirement.
I am kind of envious of him (especially at smog test time).[/quote]That is exactly where I might head in the next couple of years if I can get my CC account permanently straightened out with the bureaucrats, shoveler. I’ll take my (now 22 year-old) car with me cuz none of my kids want it, lol … and maybe I’ll end up buying a used 4WD as a second vehicle if it is a snowy locale :=)
I’ve also got peeps from “flyover country” (where my car wouldn’t be subjected to a “smog check”) who have actually offered to pay me FMV or a little more for my vehicle. They are amazed that I show up every year in it like clockwork, it looks and runs great and that it has ~275K miles on the odometer, lol.
Participant[quote=spdrun]OK. It’s factory tint. Any halfway sentient human should be able to notice (a) factory markings on the glass and (b) lack of plastic tintfilm inside the glass. Take it to the cops first, it seems dumb to pay for an expert opinion unless they still whine about it.[/quote]Progressive won’t charge for an opinion.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl] I must have a pretty “vociferous” group of boomers in my little “microcosm” just nine miles from the Int’l border, lol …[/quote]
Look further East to the McMansions of Chula Vista. Lots of Mexican dual citizens who paid cash for their houses. They go back and forth and have business in Mexico. They don’t appreciate Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall.[/quote]This group likely won’t even have an opinion on that. They’re not the part of the illegal or temp work visa group working in the CA ag industry who is sending home regular “remittances” to their families back in MX that Trump proposes to block if MX refuses to pay for a wall. The CV (and Bonita) “well-heeled group” can come and go freely across the border as they please and so can all their family members. There is no need for members of this group to send regular “remittances” to MX banks.
Participant[quote=spdrun]So go to the local pigsty and explain the situation to a different denizen of said venue. . . .[/quote]
I would follow spd’s suggestion, mixxalot. I got a tint ticket for my front side windows in about 2000 as their aftermarket tint was a shade too dark for CA (but the car was orig sold in CA and had already been driven for a few years with this tint applied). I had the two windows replaced with lighter tint at $40 each and then parked in my local pigsty’s parking lot. I went inside and showed my “fix-it ticket” at the counter and they sent a uniformed denizen outside to check and pass my new tint and the ticket was written off in my presence.
In your case, you may be able to take your vehicle to be signed off at your local pigsty w/o even replacing the tint. But before doing so, go to someplace reputable like Progressive:
http://www.progressivemobile.com/
… and get their opinion on if your tint is light enough to be “legal” in CA. They’re “experts” on this subject.
Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=bearishgurl]flu, I can tell you from direct experience that “a good percentage of (Trump’s) supporters” are “Hispanic.” [/quote]
Sorry this is BS! Not supported by any data!
If you care about real data, then here it is, fresh from today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/25/hispanic-poll-donald-trump-marco-rubio-ted-cruz-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/80881576/
[/quote]I saw your article re: the USA Today poll and will read it. I must have a pretty “vociferous” group of boomers in my little “microcosm” just nine miles from the Int’l border, lol …We haven’t yet seen how the repub candidates will fare in TX and FL (which both have large Hispanic populations).
And btw, I’m not a registered Republican and haven’t yet made up my mind who I will vote for in the primary … or even if I will re-register to do so.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]. . . Trump is now discontent amplified.[/quote]This is precisely why Election 2016 is a “new day,” FIH. This country has a lot more serious “issues” today than it did in 2008, in spite of the “mortgage meltdown” looming at the time.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Hispanic republicans are a very small portion. Hillary will win Nevada because of Hispanics and blacks.[/quote]Don’t be so sure about that, FIH. There is still time to re-register for the primary election in CA and the general election in NV. It is too soon to tell what will happen.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]the constitution requires the potus be min. 35 years old, i think. if they could have seen how old people are taking over the land, maybe they would have put a max. it’s hilarious to think about a 35 year old actually getting elected. would look so young nowadays.[/quote]I believe JFK was only 35 when he was elected POTUS.
edit: He was 44 years of age. Obama was also only 47 years old at the time of his inauguration.
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