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Participant[quote=harvey]BG doesn’t understand how young people could be in a city?
Do she not know what a city is?
Of course they rode in on busses!
http://www.google.com/maps/@41.8642407,-87.6391274,3a,75y,3.58h,82.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgO48KU1LNng-Y5nOGP8Pnw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
[/quote]pri_dk doesn’t understand that these idiots didn’t pay for their own bus ride. Nor will they pay for their bus ride back to their “hometowns.” Nor are they paying for their meals on “riot days.” They also actually make good money for spending their time as a “temporary rabble rouser.”Otherwise, they wouldn’t bother doing it.
Ask yourselves WHO is paying for all of this.
Participant[quote=harvey]And this is how propaganda works.[/quote]pri_dk, why don’t you tell the Piggs how all these young people were able to gather together and organize themselves into dozens of carefully-orchestrated protests? Did they all take the bus downtown from the suburbs or park in $20+ day lots downtown one day just to spend hours in the cold shouting at the top of their lungs, carrying signs and foul-mouthing cops? Aren’t some of them missing work and/or school? How is it that the downtrodden, homeless, mentally ill and drifters are able to organize themselves in such a fashion after sleeping on the cold dirty sidewalk with no shower for days and having little to nothing to eat that morning? Were 500+ of them just hanging out together (with their shopping carts) one day on just one city block and said to each other, “Let’s get together and start a movement. That will get us a bed to sleep in tonight and breakfast tomorrow.”
Sorry kid, but money talks and BS walks.
It is actually YOU who is buying into the “propaganda” of the MSM. You simply cannot wrap your head around the fact that your precious Dems with their “dark horse” heavy contributors (ex: Soros) have had to resort to this due to their choice of an uninspiring, subpar 2016 presidential candidate and thus are now corrupt. Soros (thru 2 middlemen) paid 3 different “organizations” (including “La Raza”) to protest on the streets of SD outside of the Trump Rally in May of this year, all waving Mexican flags. The SD County Democratic Party released a list of these groups who intended to protest Trump’s rally two weeks in advance, as required to get a permit to protest. Much to their chagrin, they ended up being relegated to Petco Park and southward (4+ blocks from the rally entrance) and during the rally, barricaded down there by law enforcement consisting mostly of borrowed personnel from 27 city, county and Federal agencies.
If you don’t mind your tax dollars being spent in this fashion just to have one political candidate come into town and speak for 1.5 hours, then you just keep drinking your special kool-aid while listening to your fav ultra-lib “news” pundits wringing their hands and patting each other on the back all day :=0
November 14, 2016 at 3:40 PM in reply to: Electoral College: the disenfranchisement of Californians #803656Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]This is for you , BG. Enjoy!
We don’t need the flyover states. All we need are the blue states and the rising new economy cities. We should treat the reds like apartheid South Africa.George Will wrote:
Arizona whites have gone from 74 percent to 54 percent of the population in 25 years; minorities will be a majority there by 2022. Texas minorities became a majority in 2004; whites are now 43 percent of the population. Nevada is 52 percent white and projected to be majority-minority in 2020. Georgia is 54 percent white, heading for majority-minority in 2026. Because of inexorably rising minorities, Clinton, an epically untalented candidate, did better than Obama did in 2012 in Georgia, Texas, Arizona and where 1 in 8 Americans lives — California.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/a-ruinous-triumph-for-the-gop/2016/11/09/18b9e804-a6a3-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html[/quote]Well, I’m not sure how many people actually read the (extremely biased) WAPO rag OR George Will, one of its top lackey “editorialists”, but why does your brand of “identity politics” even matter in attempting to decide why a particular state is currently red or blue? Why do you automatically assume that the more so-called “minorities” a state has, the bluer it will become? That actually could not be further from the truth.
The only exception is the presence of undocumented immigrant voters in a particular state, how plentiful they are and whether they actually make it to the polls to vote on election day (or make it to the address where they had their absentee ballot sent to pick up that ballot, fill it out and mail it back). Those (illegal) voters in a Trump versus Clinton contest (where one candidate has threatened to deport them) would most definitely vote for Clinton …. for obvious reasons.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I agree, BG. The flyover parts of NV are dangerous for liberal elitists like myself. I have no interest in going….[/quote]I was being facetious but NOT referring to Deplorables when I suggested off-roading was not a good idea in rural NV. I was referring to the multiple gubment-controlled “test sites” situated in the vast wasteland we call Nevada. Often the chain-link fencing is few and far between (with “Warning,” “Danger,” “US Government Property,” and “No Trespassing” signs posted on it). The few entrances are often gravel roads with human armed guards where only gubment licensed vehicles carrying certain (properly-badged) gubment and contractor personnel are allowed in. Period.
Participant[quote=harvey][quote=njtosd]
Have you seen the Craigslist ads offering $ for protesters?[/quote]Have you? Send us a link.
[quote]But it is pretty clear they are busing people in.[/quote]
What makes it pretty clear?
[quote]You don’t see many of the protesters being interviewed – which is interesting. Or maybe I just haven’t seen them.[/quote]
And this is how propaganda works. Plant the suggestion over and over again, present videos of innocuous things like busses parked on a road with the title “Protesters being bussed in…”
And if I point out that you’ve been completely duped, label me an elitist for subscribing to critical thought.
So here it is, spam it all over Facebook, I’m sure BG already has: http://abcnews.com.co/donald-trump-protester-speaks-out-i-was-paid-to-protest/
Props to the author, a stand-up guy who is obviously not an MSM shill:
http://abcnews.com.co/author/abcnews/
BTW, did ABC News change their logo? It looks a little different…[/quote]Why don’t you have a look at this article, pri_dk … for starters.
And do you need help locating the Project Veritas videos online? If so, let me know.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Why is Dubai attractive? Lots of people hate it but success speaks for itself
Doesn’t matter what you like. It matter what the market demands
45 millions visitors come to Vegas every year. Direct flights to all over the world — Norwegian, Condor, Hainan airlines to name a few new entrants.There were anti trump protests on Saturday night. I came down to the strip to join them. Mostly young people in their 20s. The deplorables in NV are in cities like Parump, Elko or whatever
Like florida. we have lots of retirees who a republicans, but their millennial grandkids will get through to them or not visit them.[/quote]In NV, Clark County was the only “true blue” County. (Could Clark County’s votes leaning 10.4% blue be due in part to illegal immigrants voting??) Not saying that is the reason Clark County is now blue but just throwing that out here based upon what I saw in the street the weekend before last, lol …
Clinton won Washoe County (County seat: Reno) by just 1.2%. Trump won your state capitol, Carson City, by a landslide (as he did adjacent El Dorado County, CA).
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/nevada/
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/california/
The rest of your state is all comprised of deplorables and irredeemables living amongst the (rare) fauna hardy enough to survive the inhospitable (where the flora isn’t so fortunate). Trust me, FIH, I know :=0 I’ve driven thru nearly every foot of your fair state, several times … that is, the parts which actually have roads. I wouldn’t recommend going “off-roading” in rural NV (the vast majority of the state, btw). One could get machine guns or cannons pointed at them if they accidentally set foot on the “wrong soil” … or sand/gravel/aggregate, or whatever you want to call it.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=spdrun] No one sane wants to return there.[/quote]That’s why state by state battles would be fun to watch. Let’s give the deplorables what they want. Then they’ll just have to swallow their pride and accept it. Or they can become immigrants to blue states and start over….[/quote]FIH, do you personally want more Deplorables (from flyover America) to move to your (just barely blue) state to compete for jobs in the hospitality industry? Do you honestly think all of America’s Deplorables are dying to give up their lakes, rivers and streams, forests and four seasons only to move to one of the most arid deserts in the universe with occasional howling winds and tumbleweeds as high as houses??
ParticipantFIH, what do you think of females who take offense to people flying (and rioting with) Mexican flags on American soil? :=0
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=bearishgurl][quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.[/quote]I would prefer this to an alpha OR beta male (illegal or otherwise) flying the Mexican flag on American soil (in lieu of the American flag).
That’s what we have in many neighborhoods in CA (which last time I checked, was part of the US).[/quote]
If you’re truly confident, you would take offense or even care what flag people want to fly.
I just find is odd that American males take offense some easily to things they consider micro aggressions, or minor dissing of their culture. If something is superior, it can stand own its own merit.
Manly males who take offense easily are in reality girly men under an alpha facade.[/quote]If you say so.
Flying another country’s flag in the US, instead of an American flag (especially in one’s front yard on holidays such as Veteran’s Day) is not a “minor diss” of American culture. It is utterly disrespectful. I see this all the time and feel that those inhabitants haven’t taken the oath of citizenship and are not citizens. It doesn’t matter whether the inhabitants are actually a “legal resident” or illegal immigrants and not American citizens, it is still disrespectful.
Homes which display both American and Mexican flags year-round are okay. There are a lot of these as well.
Participant[quote=harvey] . . . He’ll probably be claiming it’s rigged again in four years – since he’s been validated and emboldened by support like yours. And it will be far more dangerous when a sitting president says he’ll refuse to accept the results of an election.[/quote]You’re assuming Trump will try to run again in 2020. No one knows that yet . . . not even him. At the current age of 70, all kinds of things could happen where he would be unwilling or unable to run again. Perhaps he will accomplish all he wants to in his first term (where he has a majority of the house and senate for at least two years) that he won’t feel the need to re-run. The presidency ages a person significantly. Unlike other presidents we’ve had, Trump has a lot more choices in life than clinging to the presidency if he’s tired of it.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=FlyerInHi]The take away for the elections is that an overt prick can be president but a female prick cannot, eventhough the female is only arguably a covert prick.
By small actions by elitist I mean the little things that some people feel dissed about like the soda tax that people view as a value judgement on their dietary habits. Or Hollywood praising the Prius over the big SUV. Or saying that American sniper was not a good movie (it sucked).
Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.[/quote]
Once again, the sweeping generalizations about the non-coastal areas. Areas where, from what I can tell, you’ve never lived.
I do agree that some people resent being told what they should drink or drive more than others. Most men I know hate being told what to do at all. I haven’t noticed it break down along party lines – but maybe that’s so. We are always looking for a balance between independence and social obligations and I don’t think you or anyone else is guaranteed to have the right answer.
And finally, by the way, I find your fixation on (your version of) healthy eating eating a little odd, but so be it. And we’ve never owned an SUV or a Prius, so maybe we’re just out of it altogether.[/quote]You’re not “out of it,” nj.
Actually, FIH currently resides in (inland) Las Vegas, NV. Or so he says. I can personally attest that that city is full of deplorables, including working-class Hispanics and middle-class retirees (some longtime Nevadans and also mostly deplorable). And FIH has stated here that he drives a Camry and has an older pickup he uses to go to Home Depot, etc, lol …
HRC won NV by just 24K votes so it must have a good portion of deplorables in its 3 major population centers. The rest of the state has a higher population of jackrabbits and wild horses than people but those scattered staunch desert-dwellers are both deplorable and irredeemable :=0. In short, by virtue of choosing to declare NV his “home state,” FIH is no longer a member of the “coastal liberal elite.”
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi] . . . Real alpha males shouldn’t give a shit what coastal liberals think. But the modern American alpha male needs constant reminder that he’s greatest. He needs to fly the flag on his garage and his president better damn well wear a flag pin.[/quote]I would prefer this to an alpha OR beta male (illegal or otherwise) flying the Mexican flag on American soil (in lieu of the American flag).
That’s what we have in many neighborhoods in CA (which last time I checked, was part of the US).
November 13, 2016 at 3:21 PM in reply to: Electoral College: the disenfranchisement of Californians #803606Participant[quote=ocrenter][quote=bearishgurl]Nearly 5M votes remain to be counted in CA PLUS 595,000 in SD County. It is possible that it is taking so long to count them …. especially in SD County because these are all signed mail ballots of voters purporting to be citizens and residents who may not actually be. See:
Even though my precinct (and the surrounding similarly-situated ones in 91910 and 91902 that I checked) appear to have 1/3 R, 1/3 D and 1/3 I voter registrants (give or take 5 points), the precincts in LA County and the populous bay area counties are overwhelmingly Democrat. Regardless of what shenanigans are discovered among CA’s mail-in and “provisional” ballots (a big RED FLAG) in the precincts around here, I do believe HRC has taken the Golden State.
As far as I know, CA’s most populous counties scrubbed their decedent voter rolls in September of this year so this shouldn’t be too much of a problem.[/quote]
What you are saying here is someone launched a sophisticated wide spread voter fraud program in a state where the vote is only worth 1/3 compared to small Great Plains states. In a state where you said yourself millions of votes are moot due to the electoral college.[/quote]I didn’t say “someone” did anything. I said the Clinton Campaign made 70+ stops in semi-rural and rural CA (primarily agricultural towns and outside farms in CA’s agricultural counties) and including a few cities such as Chula Vista, El Centro, Brawley, Riverside, San Bernardino, Bakersfield, Visalia, Fresno, Merced, Stockton, Lodi, and certain East LA County cities during the primary season. At each stop, they conducted a “Tabling Event,” either partially or wholly conducted in Spanish where they attempted to register to vote anyone who had a valid CA Driver License (well knowing that illegal immigrants had over a full year to legally obtain one), regardless if Voter Registration applicants actually had a valid CA address which THEY THEMSELVES rented or purchased.
I took screenshots of her CA campaign list on her website and it was extensive and encompassed nearly 4 months of stops over several times per week.
I posted (two, I believe) academic studies here which stated that approximately 13% of the country’s ~11M illegal immigrants admitted that they voted regularly. Those studies were conducted before the current election cycle. Assuming arguendo that it was only 13% who voted in this country on or before 11/8/16 for the 2016 General Election, that’s at least 1,430,000 who voted (likely 100% for Clinton).
This thread was created to insinuate that Clinton had been cheated out of the presidency because she won the popular vote (currently ~400,000 with millions of votes still left to count). If 1,430,000 votes cast should be thrown out because they were cast by non-citizens (I actually believe this number to be 2-3M higher), then Clinton hasn’t really won the legal US popular vote …. yet. She is still over 1M (legal) votes behind Trump. The Dems have been pandering heavily to the undocumented immigrants in CA ever since they tried to organize them into a union to fight for a higher wages for In-Home Supportive Services (IHSS) duties they were rendering to senior citizens and disabled people (including their own relatives, whom they were already living with and receiving “free” room and board from) and also when they tried mightily to organize all the hospitality housekeeping workers and industrial janitorial workers into SEIU locals (about 1994-1995). I know this because I was there. I myself was a Dem activist and so understand how they operate but I never resorted to the illegal tactics they employ today.
These h@ll-raising groups felt empowered to disrupt (not all illegal …. but mostly) Trump rallies in the likes of Costa Mesa and also tried hard in SD to make a BIG SCENE but our law enforcement was on top of them and contained them to several blocks south of the rally entrance before and during the rally. This group showed up at the SD Convention Center because they were PAID HANDSOMELY by Dem operatives to attempt to disrupt these rallies all over the nation (but raised the most h@ll in CA where Trump couldn’t even come here without local governments being out at least $1M in law enforcement overtime, special forces cost and vandalism they caused just for a 1-2 hour rally). It was disgusting and does not represent longtime Californian’s values, including my own. This was NOT the CA I know. What would happen to us Piggs if we went down to Tijuana (or even Mexico City) and began marching in the streets waving American Flags and shouting obscenities while setting fire to Mexican flags and overturning a police vehicle after stomping on it?? WTF? Why do we have to put up with this??? These people are illegally here! They have no right to even BE here! Why do illegals feel so “empowered” in CA and how did they get this way?? Ask yourself how the Dem’s “Dark Horse Operatives” were able to continually run ads in broad daylight to recruit illegals, the homeless and mentally ill (for PAY) to disrupt Trump’s rallies all over the nation and then “pretend” that they were “attacked” by Trump supporters.
ocrenter, you don’t need to couch your phrases around here by saying, “. . . “`someone’ launched a sophisticated widespread voter fraud . . .” Just like the inability to say the words, “radical Islamic terrorism,” you apparently have the inability to call the Clinton campaign for what it was, which was a systematic (both covert and overt) underground operation run by very experienced operatives in constant collusion with the DNC whose specific goals were to make sure, by hook or crook, that their own party candidate, Bernie Sanders, never got the nomination so that the road was wide open for Clinton to obtain it. During the general election, the Clinton campaign did everything in their power to smear Trump’s reputation by parading a ridiculous assortment of non-credible has-beens to tell tall tales to the public about incidents which supposedly happened 10-35 years ago. In addition, they spent hundreds of millions on defamatory ads against Trump aired all over the nation several times per day. The Clinton campaign had a war chest of over $900M. I don’t know how much of the Dem’s $$ was actually wasted on their deeply flawed presidential candidate, but it had to be most of it. After running her largely negative campaign from the beginning, (when it was negative against Sanders) she didn’t ultimately win the presidency because (1) she had no real message of her own for the American people; and, (2) the Clintons are corrupt, plain and simple. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM
In addition, the Clinton’s “lifestyle,” while legal, doesn’t comport with the majority of America’s values, plain and simple. Being a woman had nothing to do with it. Being HRC had everything to do with it and that “problem” couldn’t be fixed. She brought way too much negative baggage into the mix and America voted with their feet to overthrow the Obama/Clinton legacy (as I posted here in the past that they would). The pollsters (as I previously posted here on at least two occasions) didn’t understand these dynamics. The bottom line is HRC felt that she was “owed” the presidency and ran her campaign accordingly and she (smugly) felt that it was finally “her turn” to be president. The reality, however, is that no one is really owed anything …. especially that which they have no control over.
[quote=ocrenter]Of course you also stated in an earlier post that Tyson Foods got workers from a developed country at the forefront of IT and tech with a higher % of college graduate workforce than the US, flew them and their families to Arkansas and got them to process chicken.[/quote]I reviewed my post in an attempt to understand what you are saying here and realized that I meant Vietnamese workers in AR meat packing plants, NOT Taiwanese. They were NOT flown in. They were already there. They were all hired out of AR and surrounding states after they or their parents were resettled in various US cities as refugees during a 15-year time period from about 1980 to 1995. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people
Sorry for the error.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=scaredyclassic]only betas read poetry, probably to impress girls.
go long on harley davidsons and mancave accesdories.
short hipsters.[/quote]
Thanks for the nice response and your return to the moral high ground.
My husband is 6’2″ and I can’t get my arms all the way around him at the chest (and I’m 5’6″). He was blessed with a football player body and puts on muscle almost effortlessly. It pisses me off. He was the first person to convince me to read poetry. He also likes graphic design, science and switching engines in and out of cars. Women know that men are many things because they always want to tell us about their secret (forbidden) interests – (i.e. poetry or similar). I’ve never heard a woman decide not to go out with someone because he liked opera. My daughter got my husband’s height, long legs and some long lost relatives good looks. She only talks to guys who are in band with her. Most of whom are a head shorter than her.
Men buy Harleys for other men.
Personally, I think the misogyny issue wasn’t so influential in the election because I have heard this sort of stuff (well maybe not as bad as the Trump quote) from every stripe of male – especially when they don’t think women are around. (I worked at a law firm where I was one of the 2 or 3 women lawyers out of 60 or 70). I heard guys say repulsive stuff about their daughters and their wives. And it wasn’t limited to the republicans or democrats. For most women I think Trumps comments were a bit ho hum – although the assault issues were something different.
The population of this country is no different than it was before the election. I think if anything good came out of all of this it shows how misinformed or mistaken the news media is. I think the hand wringing is too much. The Supreme Ct. nominee can’t be any more conservative than Scalia, and even with him there was significant movement in terms of gay marriage, etc. I cried when Reagan was elected (even though I wasn’t old enough to vote) and it wasn’t the end of the world. In fact, the Reagan years were good for a lot of people. The race issue, if anything, seems to have gotten worse under Obama – at least I think so. Maybe people just more willing to talk about it. Not saying any of this is good – just that outcomes can be very unpredictable.
Thanks again for your nice reply. Go to the gym and try to forget about all this crap – that’s what I’m going to do.[/quote]Great post, nj. There DOES seem to be a lot of (unnecessary) hand-wringing going on right now. I’m not threatened by Trump’s future Supreme Court justice picks, either. I see certainly one and maybe two reasonable choices appointed by Trump making it thru the confirmation hearings (the reason being that Trump is actually a “Reagan Democrat”). And I see that several Dem PACs funded by George Soros are again running craigslist ads in CA, WA and OR (and perhaps NY) offering young people nice sums of money to protest against the election of Trump and cause cities to have to spend a lot of money on extra law enforcement. For the life of me, I don’t understand why they are getting so much airtime. These thugs/kids are losers who can’t get regular jobs and are probably flunking out of college.
Like you, I wasn’t bothered by Trump’s rhetoric or his off-color jokes. I’ve worked around numerous lawyers myself for many years who regularly told off-color jokes to each other around the water cooler and copy machine, no matter who was in earshot. I like Trump. He’s a real, regular person (difficult to impossible to run into in “PC Coastal CA”). I have always been a direct person and as such, I feel a certain comfort level with him and wouldn’t mind meeting him in person.
Disclaimer: I have never been a big TV watcher and have never seen “The Apprentice” nor have I had a chance yet to read any of the books out there about Trump.
Oh, and I DID vote for Reagan …. twice! And before that, Jimmy Carter :=0
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