[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

Scarlett, you would need to be on the ground to see various schools let out in the afternoon. Reading API demographic “statistics” on the internet can be deceiving. Just because a student has a Hispanic-sounding name … or has a “Hispanic” grandparent doesn’t make them “Hispanic.” Did you ever stop to think that it might benefit a school (in the form of receipt of various funds from Federal programs) if they encourage their students taking the CSTs to check a demographic box they most “identify with,” especially students of mixed heritage? What do you think is the true percentage of these students from ALL OVER SD County? Would you feel more comfortable placing your children in a school with at least 50% students of Chinese origin?

In addition, the term “Hispanic” includes those Caucasian individuals from Puerto Rico, the east coast of Mexico, Mexico City, South America, Spain and Portugal. Not every “Hispanic” originates from Baja, CA and/or needs ESL classes.

And what do these high API scores say about the teachers if a school is “perceived” as having a predominately “Hispanic” student population who scores high overall on the CSTs??

If you’re REALLY interested in Chula Vista, ask yourself these questions and plant yourself on the ground when the schools in the attendance area you are interested in are dismissed for the afternoon and you will learn the truth. Better yet, if you visit an elem school, note which “ethnicity” you perceive the parents/grandparents to have who are picking up these children.

Parents do themselves and their children a huge disservice by basing school desirability strictly on statistical information taken from the internet without checking out the actual school for themselves, IMHO.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]Thanks KIBU, I heard from my co-workers that actually 52 rush hour traffic got worse since they opened that extension.

Changing commute to non-rush hour is doable, but even so we are talking 45′ door to door for me and maybe 40′ for my husband (from Otay Ranch). On the other hand, PQ/Sabre Springs commute got worse according to my co-workers.

I disagree about San Marcos schools. The high school has improved substantially – API the same as the Carlsbad ones. I don’t remember the other schools. Commute – like Chula Vista more or less (+/- 5′ at non-rush)

Clairemont – let’s say you manage to choice the kid into UC schools – which is still a hassle and UC schools are not exceptionally great, except perhaps Curie. Still for the age of the houses and the school quality I think it’s still too expensive.

Mira Mesa is of course, still on the table due to the shorter commute and lower prices. Still, we did not like the general area, beside the Calle Cristobal one – that is pretty limiting to a small area. We will revisit it though, for sure.

I know, very hard decision! Maybe the prices will go down more by the time we have to buy….[/quote]

Scarlett, you are correct that the commute from Chula Vista to/from LJ/UCSD is 40-45 mins in the non-rush hours. In the rush hours, I would add 10-15 mins to that, barring any accidents. However, this time frame is only applicable to/from 91910 and 91911. These two zips (except for a small pocket of 91911) DO NOT have “newer” (>=year 2000) construction. The other 3 Chula Vista zips will take longer for your commute, unless you each pay the approx $88 month to use the SR-125 toll road to SR-54, SR-94, I-8 or SR-52 … or commute to work together to save one monthly toll.

I wouldn’t count on being able to “choice” into UC schools as a Clairemont resident unless your children qualify for VEEP status or a magnet program (into Spreckels, NOT Curie). If you want Curie for your kids, you will have to move into its attendance area, IMO.

Chula Vista Elementary School District IS a very good district. It has many top-rated schools. Sweetwater Union HS District ALSO has several great schools. In addition, SUHSD has a partnership with SDSU called “Compact for Success.”

See: http://coe.sdsu.edu/compact/partners.php

The compact guarantees admission to SDSU to an incoming freshman from SUHSD with a HS GPA of 3.00.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]Thanks KIBU, I heard from my co-workers that actually 52 rush hour traffic got worse since they opened that extension.

Changing commute to non-rush hour is doable, but even so we are talking 45′ door to door for me and maybe 40′ for my husband (from Otay Ranch). On the other hand, PQ/Sabre Springs commute got worse according to my co-workers.

I disagree about San Marcos schools. The high school has improved substantially – API the same as the Carlsbad ones. I don’t remember the other schools. Commute – like Chula Vista more or less (+/- 5′ at non-rush)

Clairemont – let’s say you manage to choice the kid into UC schools – which is still a hassle and UC schools are not exceptionally great, except perhaps Curie. Still for the age of the houses and the school quality I think it’s still too expensive.

Mira Mesa is of course, still on the table due to the shorter commute and lower prices. Still, we did not like the general area, beside the Calle Cristobal one – that is pretty limiting to a small area. We will revisit it though, for sure.

I know, very hard decision! Maybe the prices will go down more by the time we have to buy….[/quote]

Scarlett, you are correct that the commute from Chula Vista to/from LJ/UCSD is 40-45 mins in the non-rush hours. In the rush hours, I would add 10-15 mins to that, barring any accidents. However, this time frame is only applicable to/from 91910 and 91911. These two zips (except for a small pocket of 91911) DO NOT have “newer” (>=year 2000) construction. The other 3 Chula Vista zips will take longer for your commute, unless you each pay the approx $88 month to use the SR-125 toll road to SR-54, SR-94, I-8 or SR-52 … or commute to work together to save one monthly toll.

I wouldn’t count on being able to “choice” into UC schools as a Clairemont resident unless your children qualify for VEEP status or a magnet program (into Spreckels, NOT Curie). If you want Curie for your kids, you will have to move into its attendance area, IMO.

Chula Vista Elementary School District IS a very good district. It has many top-rated schools. Sweetwater Union HS District ALSO has several great schools. In addition, SUHSD has a partnership with SDSU called “Compact for Success.”

See: http://coe.sdsu.edu/compact/partners.php

The compact guarantees admission to SDSU to an incoming freshman from SUHSD with a HS GPA of 3.00.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]Thanks KIBU, I heard from my co-workers that actually 52 rush hour traffic got worse since they opened that extension.

Changing commute to non-rush hour is doable, but even so we are talking 45′ door to door for me and maybe 40′ for my husband (from Otay Ranch). On the other hand, PQ/Sabre Springs commute got worse according to my co-workers.

I disagree about San Marcos schools. The high school has improved substantially – API the same as the Carlsbad ones. I don’t remember the other schools. Commute – like Chula Vista more or less (+/- 5′ at non-rush)

Clairemont – let’s say you manage to choice the kid into UC schools – which is still a hassle and UC schools are not exceptionally great, except perhaps Curie. Still for the age of the houses and the school quality I think it’s still too expensive.

Mira Mesa is of course, still on the table due to the shorter commute and lower prices. Still, we did not like the general area, beside the Calle Cristobal one – that is pretty limiting to a small area. We will revisit it though, for sure.

I know, very hard decision! Maybe the prices will go down more by the time we have to buy….[/quote]

Scarlett, you are correct that the commute from Chula Vista to/from LJ/UCSD is 40-45 mins in the non-rush hours. In the rush hours, I would add 10-15 mins to that, barring any accidents. However, this time frame is only applicable to/from 91910 and 91911. These two zips (except for a small pocket of 91911) DO NOT have “newer” (>=year 2000) construction. The other 3 Chula Vista zips will take longer for your commute, unless you each pay the approx $88 month to use the SR-125 toll road to SR-54, SR-94, I-8 or SR-52 … or commute to work together to save one monthly toll.

I wouldn’t count on being able to “choice” into UC schools as a Clairemont resident unless your children qualify for VEEP status or a magnet program (into Spreckels, NOT Curie). If you want Curie for your kids, you will have to move into its attendance area, IMO.

Chula Vista Elementary School District IS a very good district. It has many top-rated schools. Sweetwater Union HS District ALSO has several great schools. In addition, SUHSD has a partnership with SDSU called “Compact for Success.”

See: http://coe.sdsu.edu/compact/partners.php

The compact guarantees admission to SDSU to an incoming freshman from SUHSD with a HS GPA of 3.00.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]Thanks KIBU, I heard from my co-workers that actually 52 rush hour traffic got worse since they opened that extension.

Changing commute to non-rush hour is doable, but even so we are talking 45′ door to door for me and maybe 40′ for my husband (from Otay Ranch). On the other hand, PQ/Sabre Springs commute got worse according to my co-workers.

I disagree about San Marcos schools. The high school has improved substantially – API the same as the Carlsbad ones. I don’t remember the other schools. Commute – like Chula Vista more or less (+/- 5′ at non-rush)

Clairemont – let’s say you manage to choice the kid into UC schools – which is still a hassle and UC schools are not exceptionally great, except perhaps Curie. Still for the age of the houses and the school quality I think it’s still too expensive.

Mira Mesa is of course, still on the table due to the shorter commute and lower prices. Still, we did not like the general area, beside the Calle Cristobal one – that is pretty limiting to a small area. We will revisit it though, for sure.

I know, very hard decision! Maybe the prices will go down more by the time we have to buy….[/quote]

Scarlett, you are correct that the commute from Chula Vista to/from LJ/UCSD is 40-45 mins in the non-rush hours. In the rush hours, I would add 10-15 mins to that, barring any accidents. However, this time frame is only applicable to/from 91910 and 91911. These two zips (except for a small pocket of 91911) DO NOT have “newer” (>=year 2000) construction. The other 3 Chula Vista zips will take longer for your commute, unless you each pay the approx $88 month to use the SR-125 toll road to SR-54, SR-94, I-8 or SR-52 … or commute to work together to save one monthly toll.

I wouldn’t count on being able to “choice” into UC schools as a Clairemont resident unless your children qualify for VEEP status or a magnet program (into Spreckels, NOT Curie). If you want Curie for your kids, you will have to move into its attendance area, IMO.

Chula Vista Elementary School District IS a very good district. It has many top-rated schools. Sweetwater Union HS District ALSO has several great schools. In addition, SUHSD has a partnership with SDSU called “Compact for Success.”

See: http://coe.sdsu.edu/compact/partners.php

The compact guarantees admission to SDSU to an incoming freshman from SUHSD with a HS GPA of 3.00.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=Scarlett]Thanks KIBU, I heard from my co-workers that actually 52 rush hour traffic got worse since they opened that extension.

Changing commute to non-rush hour is doable, but even so we are talking 45′ door to door for me and maybe 40′ for my husband (from Otay Ranch). On the other hand, PQ/Sabre Springs commute got worse according to my co-workers.

I disagree about San Marcos schools. The high school has improved substantially – API the same as the Carlsbad ones. I don’t remember the other schools. Commute – like Chula Vista more or less (+/- 5′ at non-rush)

Clairemont – let’s say you manage to choice the kid into UC schools – which is still a hassle and UC schools are not exceptionally great, except perhaps Curie. Still for the age of the houses and the school quality I think it’s still too expensive.

Mira Mesa is of course, still on the table due to the shorter commute and lower prices. Still, we did not like the general area, beside the Calle Cristobal one – that is pretty limiting to a small area. We will revisit it though, for sure.

I know, very hard decision! Maybe the prices will go down more by the time we have to buy….[/quote]

Scarlett, you are correct that the commute from Chula Vista to/from LJ/UCSD is 40-45 mins in the non-rush hours. In the rush hours, I would add 10-15 mins to that, barring any accidents. However, this time frame is only applicable to/from 91910 and 91911. These two zips (except for a small pocket of 91911) DO NOT have “newer” (>=year 2000) construction. The other 3 Chula Vista zips will take longer for your commute, unless you each pay the approx $88 month to use the SR-125 toll road to SR-54, SR-94, I-8 or SR-52 … or commute to work together to save one monthly toll.

I wouldn’t count on being able to “choice” into UC schools as a Clairemont resident unless your children qualify for VEEP status or a magnet program (into Spreckels, NOT Curie). If you want Curie for your kids, you will have to move into its attendance area, IMO.

Chula Vista Elementary School District IS a very good district. It has many top-rated schools. Sweetwater Union HS District ALSO has several great schools. In addition, SUHSD has a partnership with SDSU called “Compact for Success.”

See: http://coe.sdsu.edu/compact/partners.php

The compact guarantees admission to SDSU to an incoming freshman from SUHSD with a HS GPA of 3.00.

[bearishgurl]

Congrats, Nancy! How about I come visit and we hang out at your new neighbors and one of my favorite wineries, Wente Bros!

I like your (patient) “strategy!”

[bearishgurl]

Congrats, Nancy! How about I come visit and we hang out at your new neighbors and one of my favorite wineries, Wente Bros!

I like your (patient) “strategy!”

[bearishgurl]

Congrats, Nancy! How about I come visit and we hang out at your new neighbors and one of my favorite wineries, Wente Bros!

I like your (patient) “strategy!”

[bearishgurl]

Congrats, Nancy! How about I come visit and we hang out at your new neighbors and one of my favorite wineries, Wente Bros!

I like your (patient) “strategy!”

[bearishgurl]

Congrats, Nancy! How about I come visit and we hang out at your new neighbors and one of my favorite wineries, Wente Bros!

I like your (patient) “strategy!”

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1]. . . Good documentary:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/collegeinc/

econprof is right, an adjustment is good.[/quote]

I read part of the commentary and will look at the video tonight.

These “for-profit” vocational schools and Ph.D internet mills are the WORST, IMO.

Many of these vocational schools claim to have contacts in the industry and can place their students into FT employment upon graduation. This is a crock. They make these grandiose promises to potential students to sign them up and get their student loan proceeds. I’ve never seen anyone obtain a job from these schools’ “placement services.” When I worked for local government, I once had a supervisor/mgr who taught ROP classes at a local community college. She encouraged some of her graduates to apply for entry-level openings at local agencies and some DID get hired. Cost for program? $0. Most of her students were single moms who were getting free child care while they went to school and then worked their way off the welfare system.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=briansd1]. . . Good documentary:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/collegeinc/

econprof is right, an adjustment is good.[/quote]

I read part of the commentary and will look at the video tonight.

These “for-profit” vocational schools and Ph.D internet mills are the WORST, IMO.

Many of these vocational schools claim to have contacts in the industry and can place their students into FT employment upon graduation. This is a crock. They make these grandiose promises to potential students to sign them up and get their student loan proceeds. I’ve never seen anyone obtain a job from these schools’ “placement services.” When I worked for local government, I once had a supervisor/mgr who taught ROP classes at a local community college. She encouraged some of her graduates to apply for entry-level openings at local agencies and some DID get hired. Cost for program? $0. Most of her students were single moms who were getting free child care while they went to school and then worked their way off the welfare system.

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