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Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Isnt Eastern Chula Vista the home of obscene Mello Roos and HOA fees?
In the NCC prime areas, the Mello Roos are typically $400 or $800 per year and most homes have no MR. This is hardly crippling or obscene for people buying homes $700K and above. At my kids schools 2/3rd’s of the households pay $800/yr while the other 1/3rd does not pay MR. Comparable homes in Eastern Chula Vista have MR of $2,000 to $4,000 per year.
The one notable exception is Encinitas Ranch which is not where the school district buyers flock because it feeds into the lowest performing school in the area. The draw of Encinitas Ranch is a pristine golf course/ocean view community close to the freeway and beaches in a great own. there isnt another community like it in all of SD County. (disclaimer-I am not a fan of Encinitas Ranch)
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I get where all the WTF vitriol came from now, lol. The highlighted portion of this post was not there when I replied to the first sentence of it a few hours ago. I only replied to the first sentence which was the entire post at that time. This is the first time I’ve seen the rest of the post.
sdr, I was not referring to “NCC” in any of my posts on this thread. I was referring to North County and primarily those communities located within the PUSD attendance areas.
I understand that MR is virtually non-existent west of I-5 and low or minimal in communities directly east of I-5.
In some cases, the annual HOA dues (pd once yr) for SFR tracts is worth it. It keeps all the roofs of the same quality, keeps the homes painted only approved colors and keeps recreational and broken down vehicles from being “stored” in the front of homes, etc. This uniform “look” to the area helps ALL homeowners values stabilize.
Participantwtf?? Above is nothing but a pack of insults that have no legitimate (or otherwise) basis so I will refrain from responding to it. For the record, “coastal CA” refers to “coastal CA counties” such as SD, Orange, LA, Ventura, etc. And yes, 4S Ranch IS considered to be in North County.
“NCC” never entered into my discussion here. But . . . since you brought it up, how DID HS’s in your “farm area” do in 2011 on their CACI’s?? To be more specific, we’re referring here to those particular HS’s located in your beloved “Gridlocked Nirvana.”
Why don’t you fill us all in??
Participantwtf?? Above is nothing but a pack of insults that have no legitimate (or otherwise) basis so I will refrain from responding to it. For the record, “coastal CA” refers to “coastal CA counties” such as SD, Orange, LA, Ventura, etc. And yes, 4S Ranch IS considered to be in North County.
“NCC” never entered into my discussion here. But . . . since you brought it up, how DID HS’s in your “farm area” do in 2011 on their CACI’s?? To be more specific, we’re referring here to those particular HS’s located in your beloved “Gridlocked Nirvana.”
Why don’t you fill us all in??
Participantwtf?? Above is nothing but a pack of insults that have no legitimate (or otherwise) basis so I will refrain from responding to it. For the record, “coastal CA” refers to “coastal CA counties” such as SD, Orange, LA, Ventura, etc. And yes, 4S Ranch IS considered to be in North County.
“NCC” never entered into my discussion here. But . . . since you brought it up, how DID HS’s in your “farm area” do in 2011 on their CACI’s?? To be more specific, we’re referring here to those particular HS’s located in your beloved “Gridlocked Nirvana.”
Why don’t you fill us all in??
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Isnt Eastern Chula Vista the home of obscene Mello Roos and HOA fees?[/quote]
For sfr’s only:
BVHS attendance area – 85% no MR (1/3 of MR street bonds only – avg $80 mo), annual HOA only (abt $450).
Eastlake attendance area – 85% with MR (65% low to moderate; 35% high); 90% HOA with 1/4 of these encumbered by 2 HOAs.
Olympian attendance area – 100% MR (80% moderate, 20% obscene), 90%+ HOA encumbered.
Otay Ranch attendance area – 100% MR (90%+ obscene), 90%+ HOA encumbered.
Hilltop/BVHS “swing area” of Terra Nova has no MR but is HOA encumbered <$100 mo. Consider that the "obscene" amount of annual MR for a $535K house in Otay Ranch of the same age and with exactly the same "Tuscan" building style, square footage and lot size as a $650K+ house in 4S Ranch may be substantially less than the “obscene” amount charged in 4S.
Every homebuyer with a family should do this math to see exactly what they are getting for ALL the money they will be spending and take ALL the schools in the respective attendance areas into account. That is … the ones willing to pay MR to reside in particular attendance areas.
In the BVHS attendance area, there is largely no MR, except in the tracts immediately surrounding Rancho Del Rey Middle. (Most of the 20 year-old tracts behind BVMS are nearly finished paying off their street bonds.) HOWEVER, based upon what I’ve read there, most Piggs wouldn’t care for the inventory there. It is zoned >=3 units to an acre, the average age is 30+ years old and many of the lots there would NOT be considered “low maintenance.” And some areas are on septic. For the handy Piggs, it’s a contractor’s and entertainer’s dream ….
break out the chain link and porta pottis … there are still some good buys in 91902, IMO :=]
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Isnt Eastern Chula Vista the home of obscene Mello Roos and HOA fees?[/quote]
For sfr’s only:
BVHS attendance area – 85% no MR (1/3 of MR street bonds only – avg $80 mo), annual HOA only (abt $450).
Eastlake attendance area – 85% with MR (65% low to moderate; 35% high); 90% HOA with 1/4 of these encumbered by 2 HOAs.
Olympian attendance area – 100% MR (80% moderate, 20% obscene), 90%+ HOA encumbered.
Otay Ranch attendance area – 100% MR (90%+ obscene), 90%+ HOA encumbered.
Hilltop/BVHS “swing area” of Terra Nova has no MR but is HOA encumbered <$100 mo. Consider that the "obscene" amount of annual MR for a $535K house in Otay Ranch of the same age and with exactly the same "Tuscan" building style, square footage and lot size as a $650K+ house in 4S Ranch may be substantially less than the “obscene” amount charged in 4S.
Every homebuyer with a family should do this math to see exactly what they are getting for ALL the money they will be spending and take ALL the schools in the respective attendance areas into account. That is … the ones willing to pay MR to reside in particular attendance areas.
In the BVHS attendance area, there is largely no MR, except in the tracts immediately surrounding Rancho Del Rey Middle. (Most of the 20 year-old tracts behind BVMS are nearly finished paying off their street bonds.) HOWEVER, based upon what I’ve read there, most Piggs wouldn’t care for the inventory there. It is zoned >=3 units to an acre, the average age is 30+ years old and many of the lots there would NOT be considered “low maintenance.” And some areas are on septic. For the handy Piggs, it’s a contractor’s and entertainer’s dream ….
break out the chain link and porta pottis … there are still some good buys in 91902, IMO :=]
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Isnt Eastern Chula Vista the home of obscene Mello Roos and HOA fees?[/quote]
For sfr’s only:
BVHS attendance area – 85% no MR (1/3 of MR street bonds only – avg $80 mo), annual HOA only (abt $450).
Eastlake attendance area – 85% with MR (65% low to moderate; 35% high); 90% HOA with 1/4 of these encumbered by 2 HOAs.
Olympian attendance area – 100% MR (80% moderate, 20% obscene), 90%+ HOA encumbered.
Otay Ranch attendance area – 100% MR (90%+ obscene), 90%+ HOA encumbered.
Hilltop/BVHS “swing area” of Terra Nova has no MR but is HOA encumbered <$100 mo. Consider that the "obscene" amount of annual MR for a $535K house in Otay Ranch of the same age and with exactly the same "Tuscan" building style, square footage and lot size as a $650K+ house in 4S Ranch may be substantially less than the “obscene” amount charged in 4S.
Every homebuyer with a family should do this math to see exactly what they are getting for ALL the money they will be spending and take ALL the schools in the respective attendance areas into account. That is … the ones willing to pay MR to reside in particular attendance areas.
In the BVHS attendance area, there is largely no MR, except in the tracts immediately surrounding Rancho Del Rey Middle. (Most of the 20 year-old tracts behind BVMS are nearly finished paying off their street bonds.) HOWEVER, based upon what I’ve read there, most Piggs wouldn’t care for the inventory there. It is zoned >=3 units to an acre, the average age is 30+ years old and many of the lots there would NOT be considered “low maintenance.” And some areas are on septic. For the handy Piggs, it’s a contractor’s and entertainer’s dream ….
break out the chain link and porta pottis … there are still some good buys in 91902, IMO :=]
Participant[quote=nla]Eastern Chula Vista high schools’ scores are not that bad:
Bonita Vista: 851
Asian: 933
Filipino: 902
Hispanic or Latino: 826
White: 883Eastlake: 833
Asian: 915
Filipino: 874
Hispanic or Latino: 807
White: 861Olympian: 845
Asian: 871
Filipino: 902
Hispanic or Latino: 816
White: 862Otay Ranch: 824
Asian: 912
Filipino: 893
Hispanic or Latino: 787
White: 868[/quote]Shhh… this is the county’s best kept secret, nla. We must remain humble while 95% of homebuying Piggs are still fixated on all points in North County. We don’t need more overcrowded schools down here, lol.
So it is and so be it :=}
Participant[quote=nla]Eastern Chula Vista high schools’ scores are not that bad:
Bonita Vista: 851
Asian: 933
Filipino: 902
Hispanic or Latino: 826
White: 883Eastlake: 833
Asian: 915
Filipino: 874
Hispanic or Latino: 807
White: 861Olympian: 845
Asian: 871
Filipino: 902
Hispanic or Latino: 816
White: 862Otay Ranch: 824
Asian: 912
Filipino: 893
Hispanic or Latino: 787
White: 868[/quote]Shhh… this is the county’s best kept secret, nla. We must remain humble while 95% of homebuying Piggs are still fixated on all points in North County. We don’t need more overcrowded schools down here, lol.
So it is and so be it :=}
Participant[quote=nla]Eastern Chula Vista high schools’ scores are not that bad:
Bonita Vista: 851
Asian: 933
Filipino: 902
Hispanic or Latino: 826
White: 883Eastlake: 833
Asian: 915
Filipino: 874
Hispanic or Latino: 807
White: 861Olympian: 845
Asian: 871
Filipino: 902
Hispanic or Latino: 816
White: 862Otay Ranch: 824
Asian: 912
Filipino: 893
Hispanic or Latino: 787
White: 868[/quote]Shhh… this is the county’s best kept secret, nla. We must remain humble while 95% of homebuying Piggs are still fixated on all points in North County. We don’t need more overcrowded schools down here, lol.
So it is and so be it :=}
Participant[quote=joec]…Economic and Social status has EVERYTHING to do with how successful, especially professional in work/life. It’s really who you know…[/quote]
joe, this really doesn’t matter to a 6th or 7th grader, or even to a high school student. None of this really matters until a student is a junior in college and needs career-oriented contacts and references for internships and work. This is the time where having “good contacts” and “who you know” matters. Jobs held by HS students are typically minimum-wage jobs or these students are hired by parents or the parent’s friends/relatives for summer jobs, etc.
Participant[quote=joec]…Economic and Social status has EVERYTHING to do with how successful, especially professional in work/life. It’s really who you know…[/quote]
joe, this really doesn’t matter to a 6th or 7th grader, or even to a high school student. None of this really matters until a student is a junior in college and needs career-oriented contacts and references for internships and work. This is the time where having “good contacts” and “who you know” matters. Jobs held by HS students are typically minimum-wage jobs or these students are hired by parents or the parent’s friends/relatives for summer jobs, etc.
Participant[quote=joec]…Economic and Social status has EVERYTHING to do with how successful, especially professional in work/life. It’s really who you know…[/quote]
joe, this really doesn’t matter to a 6th or 7th grader, or even to a high school student. None of this really matters until a student is a junior in college and needs career-oriented contacts and references for internships and work. This is the time where having “good contacts” and “who you know” matters. Jobs held by HS students are typically minimum-wage jobs or these students are hired by parents or the parent’s friends/relatives for summer jobs, etc.
Participant[quote=carli]You’re welcome, BG. I don’t know CCA’s exact enrollment figure, but I believe it’s just under 2000 students. I’m not sure what the odds are of students being selected via the lottery (by the way, the lottery is purely based on chance), but the rumor is that this school year, 200 students had to be turned away, which is far more than in past years. Again, this figure is not official, just what was discussed among parents. I don’t have time right now, but maybe later I’ll see if any of this info can be confirmed on the district website at http://www.sduhsd.net.[/quote%5D
carli, it is not uncommon for ANY HS to have to turn away +/- 200 students (zone/inter-district transfer hopefuls) regardless of whether the “turnaway procedure” is by lottery or lack of space for out-of-area students.
Due to the fact that CCA has +/- 2000 students and that there is no other requirement for admission except for entering the lottery (no auditions, etc required), it should have been the County’s top scoring HS on my list, dumping Eastlake as #12. I apologize for the omission :=]
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