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September 16, 2011 at 8:47 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729297September 16, 2011 at 8:04 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729295
bearishgurl
Participant[quote=AN]BG, another bad assumption. Adding a 3rd garage won’t change my side yard one bit. It just decrease the size of my front yard.[/quote]
AN, you still haven’t told us if you looked at the garage setback regulations for the City of SD and took measurements and determined that you could get a permit to put in a 3rd car bay.
September 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729291Participant[quote=AN]Bad assumption. The lot/setback/configuration is almost exactly the same. In place of the 3rd car garage, I have a bigger front yard.[/quote]
It’s not the FY setback that may be the problem. It’s the side and rear setbacks. Check the regulations on this and get back to us, AN.
You also make the assumption (above) that you will work for the same employer for 20 years, which is an anomaly these days. No one is faulting you for wanting to live near your family or wanting to have a short “commute” to your current employment. But don’t try to turn a tract MM neighborhood into allowing something that you will be able to fashion yourself to accommodate your future hobby garage/workshop needs when it is the wrong area to be planning this stuff in. It’ll never fly, either with the City or the neighbors. If you want eventually have a car/hobbyist garage workshop, it’s a free country but it’s just not doable right there. You must accept that you’ll have to move for that, AN :=]
Participant[quote=briansd1]As Ann Coulter might put it, Sarah Pailin is “an American original — virtuous, pure, graceful and feminine like only and American female could be.”
. . . [/quote]
Except when she claims to hunt to “feed her family,” lol!
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September 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729287ParticipantFor the record, Piggs, I’ve never owned any property in East County or lived there. I’ve always loved Mt Helix but can’t deal with the winding roads up and down. This particular area of EC and surrounds are “growing” on me. A buyer can get a lot of bang for their buck out there. :=]
September 16, 2011 at 3:43 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729286Participant[quote=briansd1]BG, if AN chooses EC then he would be choosing a bedroom community and a commute in exchange for acreage.
About up zoning, if the lots in MM were upzoned I’m sure many families would build additional houses on their lots for their relatives or to sell or rent for profit.[/quote]
No, he would be choosing to live in a suburb located further away from his particular job. Said property is only about 17 miles to dtn SD.
Except for current vacant land, I don’t see MM existing SFR neighborhoods upzoned for the purposes you are stating here. There is already a dearth of street parking there as many houses were built on std 5000 sf lots. There is little room for granny flats and the like (esp detached bldgs) and nowhere for these “tenants” to park on the property.
September 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729281Participant[quote=AN]I’m confused. If there’s another house with the exact same floor plan and the exact same lot size and have 3 cars garage, what’s preventing them of approving a garage addition that make a 2 car garage into a 3 car garage? If it’s that hard to add a garage, then wouldn’t it be that much harder to add anything on those acreage lots?[/quote]
Setback and lot configuration, AN. You may not have it. Those houses already built with three-car garages in your area likely have some of the house built over the garage and use up less of a footprint than your “older” house does. The City has already invented the wheel on this issue and has handouts available to give you and probably put them in pdf form on its website. Check it out and get back to us.
Permitting and building a garage, workshop, gazebo, storage sheds, corral, barn, cabana or all seven of these on a 1-3 AC flat lot out in the unincorporated county is a completely different animal than what you are proposing here. Besides being subject to less regulation, these owners HAVE the land and you and I don’t. It’s as simple as that :=]
September 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729278Participant[quote=briansd1]BG I don’t think the Asian markets in El Cajon compare to Mira Mesa and Kearny Mesa.
Incidental AN’s choice of location supports my theory on cities. AN lives and works in Mira Sorrento. That’s his city and he doesn’t have to commute to and from a bedroom community. I bet his friends and family are nearby.[/quote]
I just commented on this, brian and yes, I too, believe AN has settled in his “old stomping ground.” There’s nothing wrong with this and a LOT of people do this. Some even return to their old stomping ground to “retire” after being away 45+ yrs, lol.
As far as EC being a “bedroom” community, that is untrue. It is actually a very diverse urban city in its own right and “close-in” suburb of SD. The acreages I’m referring to here are mostly located in the unincorporated section of EC.
Read the reviews for the Asian market(s) I posted, brian and you will find out what customer’s experiences have been there 🙂
September 16, 2011 at 3:16 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729276Participant[quote=AN]I’m confused. You said people buy houses in small lot because they don’t think long term, but then you turn around and tell me to change the one thing that I love most about where I’m living, which is having the ability to go home in 5-10 minutes and eat lunch and see my wife and kids. I can see myself working for at least another 20 years. 20 years is a long time to do something you don’t like (in my case, commute). Not everyone want acreage either. I’m perfectly happy with ~.25 acre. I’m not going to sacrifice location for acreage. There’s a reason why that house on 1 acre sold for a little over $400k. AFAIK, that house is also in suburbia as well. Overpaying is all relative. You can’t make a generalization statement like “They often take the path of least resistance and overpay for a home on a tiny lot in *newer* suburbia/exurbia…” without looking foolish.[/quote]
Couple of things, AN. I never stated YOU bought a house on a small lot because YOU didn’t want to be there. Correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding from YOUR situation is that you bought a place to be near other family members in the same area as you grew up in. I also understood that your spouse was employed – was it as a nurse? Do I have this wrong, also? If she is employed, then why do you want to go home in the middle of the business day? That was my thinking.
When I worked F/T from 8-5 away from home (nearly 30 yrs), I never dreamed of “going home” in the middle of the business day and even telecommuting was unheard of. I guess times have changed :=}
The $415K recent sold is located in a close-in suburb to dtn SD. It is NOT located in the far reaches of east or north county or RIV County and therefore would not be considered an “exurb” to SD. MM could also be considered a close-in suburb to SD.
Car enthusiasts and other hobbyists LOVE to have land for workshops, parking or even for a small farm and/or horses. Obviously, if you are not willing to live more than +/- 3 mi from SV, you will never have this option :={
September 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729254Participant[quote=AN]There are plenty of houses in my development that have 3 cars garage (mine is a 2 cars garage). I’ve see some with 4 cars garage. It’s not that I really would put in a 10 cars garage. If I get to that point in my life, I can always just rent out a warehouse and park my cars there and work on them there.[/quote]
This doesn’t mean YOU will be able to build another bay on YOUR garage on YOUR lot.
I agree that there are hobby garages you can rent just north of Miramar Rd (next to the RR tracks) :=]
September 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729253Participant[quote=AN]Sorry BG, but I can’t go home for lunch when I have to drive 23 miles one way. I can do that when I have to drive 3.4 miles :-).[/quote]
Just brown bag it, instead. That’s what I did, even when I lived 1-3 miles from dtn SD :=]
I’m fooling with you, AN, because I really don’t think most young buyers think of their long-term true desires when making the biggest purchase of their lives. They often take the path of least resistance and overpay for a home on a tiny lot in *newer* suburbia/exurbia not realizing they may outgrow it quickly and may not be able to unload it without taking out of their pockets for selling costs (at the very least).
Not saying this is/was you, but when I hear suburbia/exurbia homeowners living on smallish lots in tract crackerboxes or mcmansions stating they want or need more room to spread out and did not purchase the type of property they really wanted and that room is now available for roughly $300-$400K for the first acre (addt’l acres far less) WITH a house and utils aready on it, how much better can this get? This is not TX or OK and these prices will not last forever. I’m not necessarily bullish but I think traditional or “equity sale” deals are currently bargained down due most of what’s currently on the market being distressed property. Obviously, those current “equity sale” sellers very much want to sell (retire?) and so do not have a “bubble mentality,” are realistic and will make a deal. They are out there.
September 16, 2011 at 11:45 AM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729249ParticipantI just drove past this property last wknd. It closed on 8/16 for $415K (traditional sale) and appeared to be in excellent condition! A very lucky buyer, indeed.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110027473-1708_Lanai_Dr_El_Cajon_CA_92019
Smallish lot for the area but fills the bill for car buffs and walking distance to Albertsons. And 1-3 mi to Asian Markets, AN :=}
A very good buy and there are more out there. Most need more work than this one but are on bigger lots :=]
September 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729244Participant[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]You car buffs are hanging out in the wrong place. You need to keep your eye on East County for available properties which already have everything you’re looking for, specifically 92019 and 92021. Or at the very least, the flat acreage is available with your 50’s ranch liveable “fixer” on it. They are there and bargains abound. Get your exurbia crackerboxes on the market and get moving! :=][/quote]
Yeah, but can I get to an Asian supermarket in < 1 mile? Can I get to Sorrento Valley for work in < 4 miles? MM have no HOA, so if I want, I can convert the entire first floor of my house into a 10 cars garage if I wanted to. I don't need acreage when I retire.[/quote] Uhhh, AN, good luck with the City on even obtaining a permit to build ONE more bay on your garage if you have a std 5000 to 6000 sf lot. see both of these (VERY conveniently located) Asian markets: http://www.yelp.com/biz/pinoy-express-asian-market-el-cajonDrive is 23 mi to Qualcomm. However, I have driven from the I-5/I-805 junction to the Greenfield Exit I-8 in 12 mins using SR-52. This was NOT during rush hour and did not include the surface streets.
Piggs, I’m serious when I say that there are properties with hoists out there (mostly south of I-8). Where do you think all these car collectors live who bring their shows to dtn Chula Vista and other communities once a month??
Want to erect a 4000 sf metal outbuilding with an addt’l high overhead door for toys and pickups with racks? No problem with the county if your lot is flat. Just buy a kit and there will minimal supervision. MANY of these lots have parking for 50 – 100 vehicles :=]
Just keep an open mind and try the drive sometime, AN. I think you might be pleasantly surprised how fast the 52 is 🙂
September 16, 2011 at 9:03 AM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729232ParticipantYou car buffs are hanging out in the wrong place. You need to keep your eye on East County for available properties which already have everything you’re looking for, specifically 92019 and 92021. Or at the very least, the flat acreage is available with your 50’s ranch liveable “fixer” on it. They are there and bargains abound. Get your exurbia crackerboxes on the market and get moving! :=]
September 15, 2011 at 3:38 PM in reply to: CA demographic shifts in the coming years will favor cities over suburbia #729177Participant[quote=walterwhite]My ultimate dream is the opposite; to have zero motorized vehicles. That would make me happy someday.[/quote]
scaredy, if you decide to “retire” back in your “beloved” Brooklyn, NY, you just might be able to do this :=]
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