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Participant[quote=temeculaguy]Now that I’ve had a day or two to mull it over, perhaps I overlooked the airport noise at liberty. Like sdrealtor, my visits to winesteals made me think that being able to walk home would be awesome and it looked nice.
But the North Park/South Park thing is probably best for your situation. I liked the areas closer to the park and I like South park. I was there last year drinking at some really cool outdoorish casual restaraunt that had a sand lot, playground kinda thing and there was a little league team having it’s after game party. I was on a date with a woman who had never had children and who would never live anywhere that wasn’t considered urban and she had stars in her eyes seeing families dominating a fairly urban area (of course I was seeing more red flags than than a moscow parade spectator, it’s a good thing I love my dogs and got spayed and nutuered with them). But now that I can put in perspective, that would be a good compromise for what the Op is looking for.
For clarification, my name says temecula, but I would never reccomend it to you based on what you were looking for and walter is or king of tangents, he wasn’t serious. You wont find it all, youll find acceptable amounts of what you want and what you need, but I think you might find something close in that area, you just need to be picky and do your research, a few streets one way or another can make a huge difference.
You will be giving up one thing though, all the really hot single dads are out in the burbs, at least that what I have posted on my ads.[/quote]
Lordy, TG . . . . I just choked on my coffee! Did you ever think the “ads” you’re posting might be attracting the wrong kind of gal? Why don’t you expand your age limit out of the 25-35 yo set ;=D
February 2, 2012 at 8:20 AM in reply to: Redfin shows San Diego Inventory at 31% below the two year low… WHY? #737240ParticipantMy “educated” guess is that the hardest hit areas (the ones with the most “distress”) will stay flat for years to come. The areas with little to no distress will sell at prices according to what buyers will pay in accordance with its level of desirability. If a buyer refuses to pay the prices of a non-distressed area, they will go to a more distressed area to purchase property in which they can make a deal in their price range or continue to rent in their (non-distressed) area of choice until they cave in and pay what the market will bear there.
I agree with pemeliza in that longtime-owner-sellers with substantial equity who do not have to sell can wait this market out indefinitely, unless they are already very old. In that case, their heir(s) will either take title to the property, rent it out or sell it for whatever they can get today.
“Distressed areas” include those with substantial “shadow inventory” even though there is currently little active inventory there.
Participant[quote=UCGal]UM… BG… AN posted that bit about Louisiana. Not me. (Just saw you edited it to correct.)
To your other point… I live in the UC cluster -so Standley MS and UCHS are always an option. They look great on paper… but my experience has been that API’s don’t tell the whole story.
I’ve had friends with kids with very good experiences at those schools- and friends who’s kids failed to thrive there. One pulled her son from Standley to go to Roosevelt. Not convenient – but a better fit for her son.
(My other friends who’ve choiced into Roosevelt live closer and had crappier (on paper) neighborhood middle schools.)
HTM is one option. As you’ve noted – it seems to line up with my kids strengths and interests. Why not apply? Improves the odds infinitely (from zero to greater than zero)
But they get so many more applications than have slots available – according to the website – 4 times the number of applications than spaces… 25% odds are not the best.
http://www.hightechhigh.org/admissions/HTH-AdmissionsFAQ.php#I_won_t_be_able_to_attend_an_information_session_at_the_HTH_village_where_I_intend_to_apply__Can_I_attend_one_elsewhere
[/quote]I understand that the 400 or so admissions every year are to replace the graduates (and few dropouts/transfers) at HTM/HTH.
It does appear continuing students do NOT have to reapply. So once the student is accepted, they may stay as long as they have transportation to get there every day and follow their rules.
You state you have a fifth grader and the site states that applications for current fifth graders can be accepted until 2/28/12 and stay active for one year.
I don’t know if Standley starts in 6th or 7th grade, but what’s the harm in enrolling in Standley this year or next and then continuing to apply for other MS choices and keep renewing your ap at HTM/HTH?
Who knows, he may get accepted in 9th or 10th grade.
I just don’t see a big problem here, for you or AN. Both of you are fortunate to be surrounded by “good schools.”
Remember that all “mainstream” high schools in CA have same or similar textbooks and teach the same stuff (for college prep purposes).
It’s the law.
ParticipantAN, I saw your link to LA school choice. It was made possible by the Friedman Foundation, which appears to issue vouchers to those students who want to attend public/private schools or homeschools out of their attendance areas.
My understanding is that the State of LA lost nearly one million people after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 due to Federally-funded permanent out-of-state resettlements. Not sure how many former LA residents have actually moved back there due the massive housing condemnation that has taken place since Katrina.
Prior to Katrina, it was widely publicized that LA’s HS graduation rate was dismal. In addition, their welfare and food stamp rolls were the highest in the nation (likely due to residents lack of education and the state’s lack of well-paying permanent jobs).
I don’t know what the current population is in the State of LA but would surmise that it is lower than San Diego County and possibly lower than the City of San Diego.
School choice could not take place here with just ONE donor.
I don’t believe taxpayers should fund private education when we are funding appropriate public education which by law is available to every student regardless of their disability.
In LA’s case, private school vouchers do not appear to be funded wholly or at all by taxpayer funds.
Participant[quote=AN]…There’s nothing wrong with MM school. Their scores have been going up in recent years, but that’s neither here nor there. It’s irrelevant to the topic of school choice. Even if I live in the coveted Carmel Valley, it wouldn’t change the face that we don’t have enough choice.[/quote]
AN, I don’t think it’s irrelevant to those who already live in an attendance area of good schools and are complaining they have little school choice.
It could be compared to the employee who complains that a lesser-qualified person was hired over them for a promotion that they themselves didn’t apply for.
AN, what school choices would you LIKE to have that you don’t feel your child could “choice” into (within SDUSD)?
And have you made application to “choice” into any schools outside of your attendance area??
You must realize that once your child reaches HS, his/her school choices will be greater, no??
And you must also know that HS grades (grades 10-11) are the only grades considered for public college admission purposes in CA … right?
Participant[quote=sdrealtor][quote=kcal09]This must be hands down the worst and grossest ever!
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-110025068-9554_La_Jolla_Farms_Rd_La_Jolla_CA_92037%5B/quote%5D
FYI just checked back and it closed for $1.7m. Looks like they successfully stole one from the bank IMO. That was pretty close to the last sale in 1999. How many sales do you see in prime coastal areas at 1999 prices?[/quote]
Interior conditions aside, I have a $64M question. How much will it cost to shore up the hillside properly and get the work stamped by an engineer and signed off by the City??
And my $64K question is, how much (if any) of the original lot was lost in the “landslide?” If any, how much will it cost to get the plat map changed to reflect the *new* lot??
Acc to the limited photos, it did not appear that the landslide affected the foundation of the house but really can’t tell.
My motto is, you pay for exactly what you get in this life. Sometimes you are pleasantly surprised but not very often.
Participant[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]I saw in Albertson’s last night that SD Magazine had an article 10 reasons to Love San Diego.
I thumbed thru it in the checkout line and one of the 10 reasons was that the City offered the most “school choice” in the nation!
http://www.sandiegomagazine.com/media/San-Diego-Magazine/February-2012/10-Reasons-to-Love-San-Diego/%5B/quote%5D
Uh, we’re #4, not #1. Even at #4, we only got a B-. You might be happy with a B- but I’m not. I would put Louisiana at the top of the list for School choice.[/quote]Uh, guess I didn’t have time to read it thru. AN, lol. Given the after-effects of Katrina, I can understand why LA would have the most school choice, but why don’t you think SD residents don’t have enough school choice? I think probably close to half of the students residing in SDUSD do NOT attend the school in their attendance area.
UCGal sounded kinda pessimistic about her kid(s)’ chances of being picked to attend HTM. As she knows, you can’t “win” a spot if you don’t apply for it.
And what’s wrong with Standley MS and UCHS? Last time I looked (albeit not recently), these were very good schools.
edit: sorry, I first directed my reply to UCGal. It was actually AN who read the article.
AN, what’s wrong with the schools in MM? I thought they had been high-scoring in recent years?? And why don’t you think your kid will be able to “choice?”
ParticipantI saw in Albertson’s last night that SD Magazine had an article 10 reasons to Love San Diego.
I thumbed thru it in the checkout line and one of the 10 reasons was that the City offered the most “school choice” in the nation!
http://www.sandiegomagazine.com/media/San-Diego-Magazine/February-2012/10-Reasons-to-Love-San-Diego/
ParticipantWOW, afx!! Great post! I’ve got biz on Park Blvd once a week for the next five weeks so will have to get down there and see these things for myself! I’ve been “asleep at the switch” down here in “Leave-it-to-Beaver” slow-moving Chula Vista and it seems whenever I have a free few days I leave the county for points north :=0
I remember caroling in South Park and Burlingame before X-mas in the “olden days” and it was baby and dog-friendly then but what you are describing now sounds amazing!!!
Participant[quote=briansd1]…The nice part about LS is that the housing units are new so you won’t need to repair before move in…[/quote]
For some reason, I’m seeing a lot of recent posts in this same vein when a Pigg is considering buying or buys in an “older area,” (Rich, for example?).
“Now it is time to get to know your local home depot really really well. :)”
Thanks, ocrenter ;=]
Just because an area is 50+ years old, this in no way means that a property for sale there hasn’t been remodeled down to the studs in the last 20 years and/or will need constant expensive repairs after move-in!! In addition, many older properties which have NOT been extensively remodeled have been extremely well-maintained over the years and have central A/C and even a central vac! Most of the sellers in these areas have the $$ for maintenance, gardeners, pool svc, etc. WHY is this so?? They don’t have HOA dues and MR, lol. A good portion have Prop 13 protection on their tax rates and another good portion (could be the same portion as the first portion) do NOT have a mortgage.
DUH…
The “potential buyer” Piggs on this site have likely been touring too many fvcked up REO’s and SS shacks out in the ‘burbs, IMHO.
[quote=flu] . . . 3. In this particular case: do I live more like in my lifestyle that I would personally like being an urbanite or do suffer living in suburbia and send them to a one of the schools that are arguably better….[/quote]
It depends on who’s arguing, flu, and what one considers the attributes of a “good school.” If it is “test scores” alone, then many of the schools in the “‘burbs” fail against those of the “city” and that much-maligned “South County” :=0
Actually, I think a parent can be an “urbanite” and have children who have a good public education and good life. You have to know WHERE to look at properties for your children to live in, you have to really KNOW the ‘hoods and the schools (and not just view online test scores).
Some of the happiest parents/families are those where the parent(s) went to the same schools they are now sending their children to. These schools are neither new or in the far reaches of suburbia/exurbia. Having other relatives nearby to help with their children is a bonus, too 🙂
Participant[quote=UCGal]A note on high tech high/high tech middle…. they are charter schools and admission is by lottery. There are also multiple sites. My understanding is that it is MUCH easier to get into the south bay campus (convenient to Chula Vista) than to the campus at Liberty station. I have applications in for the point loma campus for both my boys but am not optimistic. That said – it looks like an incredible program,
http://www.hightechhigh.org/?show=schools
Liberty Station might be a very good fit of urban/parks/convenience to the airport and family. Our friends who live there love it.[/quote]
UCGal, just saw this post. Based on the stuff you’ve posted that your son(s) are interested in, I would say “go for it!” You have nothing to lose by applying to the PL campus and re-applying every year. Some of the programs at HTH/HTM seem perfect for one or both of them!
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]Great suggestion on Liberty Station. Its kinda urban and kinda suburban. She should be able to get a nice place (3BR 1500 sq ft townhome) in her price range if she is patient. For a traveler, I dont know that one could have better access to the airport. Its clean, safe and walkable to all shopping one needs on a daily basis. There’s a Wine Steals for a quick night out or a glass of wine on the way home if you have time.
She should scope out a rental there and see if it makes sense for her. Plenty of time to buy as prices arent going any where soon nor are rates.[/quote]
Good advice about scoping out a rental in LS and proximity to the Lindbergh Field.
frossty, this doesn’t affect a tenant but you should be aware that every property in Liberty Station belongs to a homeowner’s association. There are several HOA’s there. I would surmise that townhome HOA dues there would be +/-$300 month.
In addition, Liberty Station was developed 18 years ago on the former Naval Training Center land (formerly SD Navy “boot camp”) which the Navy deeded to the City of SD. It was developed in stages by the Corky McMillin Co under a “land swap” agreement with the City and is now built out and “self-contained.” It is directly on the rising path of the jet runway of Lindbergh Field (SD Airport). When a jet takes off (every 15-20 mins, on avg) the noise at LS is deafening for up to 30 seconds. The worst noise is in the SFR/office area adjacent to the “Rock Church” near the Nimitz entrance. This is just down the street from High Tech High. In the past, the City imposed a “moratorium” on the Port District on jet takeoffs/landings of approx 10:20 p.m. (for the U.S. Mail jet). Not sure if it is this early anymore.
I agree that you should rent first in SD County and get a feel for all the areas you are interested in purchasing in. You can’t tell very much from viewing properties online.
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]BG, she is a single mom, she needs schools and streets that her kid can bike or walk to and whose playmates in the neighbrhood attend the same schools. What’s the Chula to HTH drive at 7 am, half an hour? I say more, I dated a woman in Pt. Loma, very near that school, there’s no quick way there. Every light is like 5 minutes, I bet it takes an hour. What are the odds that in a city of 1.3 million, her kid gets one of the 400 spots in one of the good schools if she doesn’t live there. That place can be harder than college to get into.[/quote]
TG, I never suggested Chula Vista to the OP. I only mentioned my two “friend families” because they actually rec’d interdistrict transfers to attend the HT schools. It was to illustrate these schools’ liberal application policy. The new students are picked from a lottery to replace the graduates. Not sure how a continuing-student application is handled.
These families actually reside in the Bonita Vista Middle/High attendance area. These are VERY good schools (the best in the district). HOWEVER, these parents wanted their kids to have a math/science education with an emphasis on creativity and innovation and BV Middle/High are “mainstream” (college prep) schools. That is why they are driving their kids over to Liberty Stn every day. And yes, I’m sure it is longer than 30 mins one way for them.
I disagree with you about the bike riding and walking to the corner store in urban neighborhoods. Is is done every day by six year olds. I see it myself walking my dog and I am an urban dweller in a very charming mid-century neighborhood. Observing many urban ‘hoods more than 60 years old in SD County could be compared to watching “Leave it to Beaver.” You are forgetting that these areas don’t turn over like the ‘burbs and exurbs. Often, the bulk of urban residents have resided in the same house for 50+ years. They know every nook, cranny, ditch, tree, utility easement and what is SUPPOSED to be behind all of them. They even know where the squirrel and skunk families are “nesting.” They have NOTHING TO DO but walk the streets with each other, visit each other and mind everyone’s business. These are the BEST areas to raise a young child, ESP one who may be a “latchkey” kid for a couple of hours per day, IMHO.
Since you mention it, if the OP has a reliable relative to help with her child in central Chula Vista (Hilltop), she should know that there are always good well-built (1000-1800 sf) houses for sale in that area for $200K to $450K. They are 50-70 years old and MANY have been completely remodeled. Lots are 6,000 to 20,000 sf. The elementary schools are Rosebank, Hilltop Drive and Helen Goes Cook. IIRC, Rosebank and Cook have DASH (a 6 to 6 program) for a nominal weekly fee where homework help is available. The Middle/High schools are Hilltop.
ALL GOOD SCHOOLS!
Participant[quote=frossty]My budget’s under 500K.
Thanks to UCgal for the insight into Roosevelt. I’d LOVE to be in North Park, but:
Based on the insight on “progressive”, I’ll revise the school requirements: rigorous, diverse, dynamic. Strong math and science is very important; can that work without tigermom-ness?[/quote]
Look into “High Tech High,” a SDUSD Charter School which starts in the 7th grade. It is close to dtn SD and your child may likely be able to “choice” into it from several urban neighborhoods, including North Park (92104).
I actually know families who have obtained an “interdistrict transfer” for their kids to attend HT Middle and High from the “far reaches” of Chula Vista (an entirely different school district).
see: http://www.hightechhigh.org/
Hint: I’ve heard the “projects” assigned to students at HTHS are akin to actually “being on the job.”
And contrary to what sdduuuuude posted, Roosevelt Middle and SD High are very good schools 🙂
edit: I erroneously stated that HTH was part of SDUSD. It is located within the boundaries of SDUSD attendance areas but is a Charter School, thus it is not run by SDUSD. In addition, it has recently opened a Chula Vista campus. However, my friends’ children (in Chula Vista) attend the “Pt Loma” campus, located at “Liberty Station” (on the old SD Naval Training Center land). In addition, the middle school there begins in the 6th grade (not 7th grade, as I stated earlier).
HTMS/HS is an incredible opportunity for the students who are selected to attend it, IMHO … well worth the application process.
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