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Participant[quote=AN]Have you ever driven South in the morning? I have. Just so you know, there’s is usually no traffic going South in the morning and going North in the afternoon, between South County and Sorrento area.[/quote]
Driving from Sorrento to Chula is NOT the same route as driving from PQ to dtn. in the morning.
[quote=AN]BTW, Bing is Microsoft. They calculate time based on distance and speed limit.[/quote]
What is the speed limit on southbound I-15, say, near Ted Wms. Pkwy. bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. on weekdays?? How about Mercy Rd. exit? Miramar Rd. exit? Clairemont Mesa?? How long to get thru the bottlenecked Balboa Park? How about getting to your parking space/garage? Or finding a meter?? You see what I’m saying, here??
[quote=AN]Where do you get your data from? Are you just trying to overexaggerate to make PQ look as bad as possible?[/quote]
I just guessed 30 miles. Concede that I didn’t know. I just looked at Mapquest which states it’s 10-13 miles (depending on loc. at PQ) to get to the beach at DM (just no. of Bully’s), total travel time 17-22 mins.
I was not trying to make PQ look bad. Your $895K McMansion in PQ has been built in several zip codes, including 91915 (slightly smaller). I was making fun of its “really bad” design, IMO, for the price it fetched.
[quote=AN]You got it, it’s location location location. Whether you agree with it or not won’t change the fact that PQ’s has a bigger draw, hence the price premium over south county per sq-ft and per lot size. The SOLDs listings speaks for themselves.[/quote]
No, I don’t believe PQ has a bigger “draw” than 91910. Acc. to SD Lookup, there were 101 SOLDS in 91910 since 3/17/10 and 100 SOLDS in PQ since 3/26/10. So there have been more sales in PQ in a little shorter time frame.
“Location” is subjective, AN. What your particular needs/wants are aren’t what everyone needs/wants. Some folks wish to preserve an older home and live in a ‘hood with 80+ yr. old trees and character. Historically, the best (and most exp.) locations in CA were those closest to the coast and ‘hood’s with historical significance, such as Beverly Hills (Los Angeles) or Mission Hills (SD). The “bay” can’t really be considered the coast, because you have to drive over the bridge or up the strand to get there. Hence, Chula properties are NOT coastal either, even though 91910 and 91911 are mostly situated in a “coastal” weather zone. Some people don’t care about living near “high-tech companies” I am one of those people.
If you take the recent solds from both PQ and 91910, PQ is more consistent in price from property to property. Many people who own unique luxury properties in Chula paid cash so have no need to put their properties on the market at its bottom or near bottom (2010). Hence, there were few luxury sales in CV since 3/17.
I know where I can walk my dog in front of two “empty-but-not-vacant luxury properties” tonite. What does that mean? It means beautifully furnished and not in distress, landscaping trimmed, alarm system on, pool clean but no one living there. Why? One family lives in Guadalajara. They will come late next month, for the summer. PQ does not even have these types of properties. I do not know the percentage of recent closings in PQ or 91910 which were distress sales.
I agree that PQ probably is a bigger draw to tech-worker buyers. I do not particularly prefer Chula over SD but I must remain for now. If I could live anywhere in the county, I would move to Fleetridge (92106). If the property didn’t have thick windows, I would install them and would live there until I die. I’ve had properties in portions of four streets picked out for myself since the summer of ’80. Who knows, maybe someday I’ll get there 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]Have you ever driven South in the morning? I have. Just so you know, there’s is usually no traffic going South in the morning and going North in the afternoon, between South County and Sorrento area.[/quote]
Driving from Sorrento to Chula is NOT the same route as driving from PQ to dtn. in the morning.
[quote=AN]BTW, Bing is Microsoft. They calculate time based on distance and speed limit.[/quote]
What is the speed limit on southbound I-15, say, near Ted Wms. Pkwy. bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. on weekdays?? How about Mercy Rd. exit? Miramar Rd. exit? Clairemont Mesa?? How long to get thru the bottlenecked Balboa Park? How about getting to your parking space/garage? Or finding a meter?? You see what I’m saying, here??
[quote=AN]Where do you get your data from? Are you just trying to overexaggerate to make PQ look as bad as possible?[/quote]
I just guessed 30 miles. Concede that I didn’t know. I just looked at Mapquest which states it’s 10-13 miles (depending on loc. at PQ) to get to the beach at DM (just no. of Bully’s), total travel time 17-22 mins.
I was not trying to make PQ look bad. Your $895K McMansion in PQ has been built in several zip codes, including 91915 (slightly smaller). I was making fun of its “really bad” design, IMO, for the price it fetched.
[quote=AN]You got it, it’s location location location. Whether you agree with it or not won’t change the fact that PQ’s has a bigger draw, hence the price premium over south county per sq-ft and per lot size. The SOLDs listings speaks for themselves.[/quote]
No, I don’t believe PQ has a bigger “draw” than 91910. Acc. to SD Lookup, there were 101 SOLDS in 91910 since 3/17/10 and 100 SOLDS in PQ since 3/26/10. So there have been more sales in PQ in a little shorter time frame.
“Location” is subjective, AN. What your particular needs/wants are aren’t what everyone needs/wants. Some folks wish to preserve an older home and live in a ‘hood with 80+ yr. old trees and character. Historically, the best (and most exp.) locations in CA were those closest to the coast and ‘hood’s with historical significance, such as Beverly Hills (Los Angeles) or Mission Hills (SD). The “bay” can’t really be considered the coast, because you have to drive over the bridge or up the strand to get there. Hence, Chula properties are NOT coastal either, even though 91910 and 91911 are mostly situated in a “coastal” weather zone. Some people don’t care about living near “high-tech companies” I am one of those people.
If you take the recent solds from both PQ and 91910, PQ is more consistent in price from property to property. Many people who own unique luxury properties in Chula paid cash so have no need to put their properties on the market at its bottom or near bottom (2010). Hence, there were few luxury sales in CV since 3/17.
I know where I can walk my dog in front of two “empty-but-not-vacant luxury properties” tonite. What does that mean? It means beautifully furnished and not in distress, landscaping trimmed, alarm system on, pool clean but no one living there. Why? One family lives in Guadalajara. They will come late next month, for the summer. PQ does not even have these types of properties. I do not know the percentage of recent closings in PQ or 91910 which were distress sales.
I agree that PQ probably is a bigger draw to tech-worker buyers. I do not particularly prefer Chula over SD but I must remain for now. If I could live anywhere in the county, I would move to Fleetridge (92106). If the property didn’t have thick windows, I would install them and would live there until I die. I’ve had properties in portions of four streets picked out for myself since the summer of ’80. Who knows, maybe someday I’ll get there 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]According to Bing, it’ll take you 19 minutes to downtown from PQ driving 65 mph.
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/?org=aj…%5B/quote%5DI’m sorry, I just don’t see this constellation. Not without a broomstick. Maybe 39 mins. at mid-morning 🙂 “Bing” is probably out of state.
There are some mornings I can’t even get to dtn. from NC (5 mi. away) in 19 mins!
Look at your Bing map again. Have you ever tried leaving bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. for dtn. SD?? Just wondering.
Participant[quote=AN]According to Bing, it’ll take you 19 minutes to downtown from PQ driving 65 mph.
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/?org=aj…%5B/quote%5DI’m sorry, I just don’t see this constellation. Not without a broomstick. Maybe 39 mins. at mid-morning 🙂 “Bing” is probably out of state.
There are some mornings I can’t even get to dtn. from NC (5 mi. away) in 19 mins!
Look at your Bing map again. Have you ever tried leaving bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. for dtn. SD?? Just wondering.
Participant[quote=AN]According to Bing, it’ll take you 19 minutes to downtown from PQ driving 65 mph.
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/?org=aj…%5B/quote%5DI’m sorry, I just don’t see this constellation. Not without a broomstick. Maybe 39 mins. at mid-morning 🙂 “Bing” is probably out of state.
There are some mornings I can’t even get to dtn. from NC (5 mi. away) in 19 mins!
Look at your Bing map again. Have you ever tried leaving bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. for dtn. SD?? Just wondering.
Participant[quote=AN]According to Bing, it’ll take you 19 minutes to downtown from PQ driving 65 mph.
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/?org=aj…%5B/quote%5DI’m sorry, I just don’t see this constellation. Not without a broomstick. Maybe 39 mins. at mid-morning 🙂 “Bing” is probably out of state.
There are some mornings I can’t even get to dtn. from NC (5 mi. away) in 19 mins!
Look at your Bing map again. Have you ever tried leaving bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. for dtn. SD?? Just wondering.
Participant[quote=AN]According to Bing, it’ll take you 19 minutes to downtown from PQ driving 65 mph.
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/?org=aj…%5B/quote%5DI’m sorry, I just don’t see this constellation. Not without a broomstick. Maybe 39 mins. at mid-morning 🙂 “Bing” is probably out of state.
There are some mornings I can’t even get to dtn. from NC (5 mi. away) in 19 mins!
Look at your Bing map again. Have you ever tried leaving bet. 7:00 and 7:30 a.m. for dtn. SD?? Just wondering.
Participant[quote=AN]
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100017243-84….
Closed at 895k. . .http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100010307-12…. Closed for $760k for a 2384 sq-ft house. . .
How many 2300 sq-ft house in 91910 w/ only 7500 sq-ft NO-view lot can fetch $760k?[/quote]
AN, I didn’t see any on SDLookup SOLDS but I think you might be trying to compare apples to oranges here.
A lot of the housing stock in 91910 (north of H St. and west of 805) are fixers. There are not many family-type “bread and butter” properties, as you call them, near dtn. CV. Most of the orig. built 1800+ sf properties in the western portion of 91910 are located south of H St.
The “coveted” properties near dtn. CV on 1+ AC lots, such as these active listings, don’t come up the market very often, for good reason – PRIVACY. In addition, they are located just over ONE MILE from the bay, which spells “cool breeze.”
This thing took at least 3 years to build.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100028590-475_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here’s a light fixer on the same st. I’ve was inside a few yrs. ago and it’s in relatively good shape. Needs new appls. and deck repair. Over 1 AC lot/2 levels.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100025182-445_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are two examples of recent SOLD comps in the dtn./Hilltop area.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100011582-10_2nd_Ave_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Not a bad price pd. for the “Lucious Wright House” considering it’s Mills Act contract and $860 yr. prop tax bill. Buy a tractor mower – LOL.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069677-333_Hilltop_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Whoever got this fixer got an AWESOME deal. It’s in GREAT cond. on the outside and has a 120 ft. long driveway.
Do any Piggs have REALIST around here? I would venture that these were both ALL-CASH deals.
The above properties, a “move-on” and “custom” are less than one mile from each other. Look at the diversity. Then add your 777SF “short-sale hopeful” on 2nd and G (7 min. walk to Carvalos St. and 5 min. walk to 333 Hilltop) to this pile and there you have it. A mishmash of non-homogenous properties. I’ve seen two properties with atriums in the middle of the step-down ‘60’s LR (yes, complete with dirt, recirculating fountain and real trees) and brass intercom system in the middle of this ‘hood. Dtn. Chula cannot even be compared to PQ. It is a completely different market. The small tracts here are mostly WWII boxes. Many are completely remodeled.
[quote=AN]I guess the big recurring theme here is that for almost all of the older areas around Chula Vista, the housing stock is VERY diverse. You have $200k starter homes all the way up to $2M custom homes.[/quote]
Now you understand, except make that $200K to $4M.
If you want 70’s or 80’s built without MR, you will have to go to East J St. (E. of 805). Part of north side has great views but entire area suffers from high power lines. If you are willing to pay MR (and sometimes street bonds) then go to Rancho Del Rey (RDR), north and south of East H St.
If you are willing to pay about $100 mo. HOA then go to Terra Nova. This SOLD has one of the few unobstructed full views of dtn. SD in the subdivision!
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090041981-490_Smoky_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Back to your $895K McMansion (3725 SF) on Watson Ranch St. in PQ, did you notice it has exorbitant MR? This figure probably does NOT include mo. street bonds or HOA. And how do you park a vehicle in front of one garage door and still drive into the other garage?? We used to laugh about McMillin’s “space-saving-tandem” design in Otay Ranch. For these reasons, Watson Ranch St. did GREAT to fetch $895K, IMO. Add in A/C costs onto this property 4-5 mos. per yr., “regular” prop. taxes and fire policy and omg, it’s a recipe for another “60-Minutes-white-elephant walk-away.”
And why would the buyers need to have an income of $250K to 300K to buy this?? Aren’t they bringing in a downpayment?
Here are listings which sold recently in 91910 in the very exclusive gated Comm. of Belmonte (BVM and BVH schools & Discovery Elem. Sch. [w/Spanish immersion program]). They have HOA and are comparable in size to your Watson Ranch SOLD. 15 mi. from dtn – half the distance of PQ. Ocean breezes on the 2nd highest hill in the area. No A/C needed here. Hey, isn’t PQ 30+ miles inland??
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100000434-405_Milagrosa_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100003133-443_Milagrosa_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are three 91910 SOLDS where the MR is comparable to your Least Tern Ct. SOLD in PQ. Same schools as Belmonte.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100012643-1149_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090065388-1177_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069880-1013_Burga_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
The low MR on the first two links is retiring in 2-3 yrs.
I don’t know where the jobs are near PQ. I am out of touch with the area but last time I looked there were four companies on Carroll Cyn. Rd. in Scripps Ranch – LOL.
There are a lot of companies in Eastlake now (8+ mi) and a few in Otay Mesa (7-8 mi) from dtn. CV. And then your usual shipbuilding and Navy jobs + proximity to dtn. SD.
I’m sorry, AN, what was the “draw” of PQ again?? Oh, tech jobs. O-o-o-o-k-kay. Well, maybe we will “grow” some tech jobs in Otay Mesa one day 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100017243-84….
Closed at 895k. . .http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100010307-12…. Closed for $760k for a 2384 sq-ft house. . .
How many 2300 sq-ft house in 91910 w/ only 7500 sq-ft NO-view lot can fetch $760k?[/quote]
AN, I didn’t see any on SDLookup SOLDS but I think you might be trying to compare apples to oranges here.
A lot of the housing stock in 91910 (north of H St. and west of 805) are fixers. There are not many family-type “bread and butter” properties, as you call them, near dtn. CV. Most of the orig. built 1800+ sf properties in the western portion of 91910 are located south of H St.
The “coveted” properties near dtn. CV on 1+ AC lots, such as these active listings, don’t come up the market very often, for good reason – PRIVACY. In addition, they are located just over ONE MILE from the bay, which spells “cool breeze.”
This thing took at least 3 years to build.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100028590-475_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here’s a light fixer on the same st. I’ve was inside a few yrs. ago and it’s in relatively good shape. Needs new appls. and deck repair. Over 1 AC lot/2 levels.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100025182-445_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are two examples of recent SOLD comps in the dtn./Hilltop area.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100011582-10_2nd_Ave_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Not a bad price pd. for the “Lucious Wright House” considering it’s Mills Act contract and $860 yr. prop tax bill. Buy a tractor mower – LOL.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069677-333_Hilltop_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Whoever got this fixer got an AWESOME deal. It’s in GREAT cond. on the outside and has a 120 ft. long driveway.
Do any Piggs have REALIST around here? I would venture that these were both ALL-CASH deals.
The above properties, a “move-on” and “custom” are less than one mile from each other. Look at the diversity. Then add your 777SF “short-sale hopeful” on 2nd and G (7 min. walk to Carvalos St. and 5 min. walk to 333 Hilltop) to this pile and there you have it. A mishmash of non-homogenous properties. I’ve seen two properties with atriums in the middle of the step-down ‘60’s LR (yes, complete with dirt, recirculating fountain and real trees) and brass intercom system in the middle of this ‘hood. Dtn. Chula cannot even be compared to PQ. It is a completely different market. The small tracts here are mostly WWII boxes. Many are completely remodeled.
[quote=AN]I guess the big recurring theme here is that for almost all of the older areas around Chula Vista, the housing stock is VERY diverse. You have $200k starter homes all the way up to $2M custom homes.[/quote]
Now you understand, except make that $200K to $4M.
If you want 70’s or 80’s built without MR, you will have to go to East J St. (E. of 805). Part of north side has great views but entire area suffers from high power lines. If you are willing to pay MR (and sometimes street bonds) then go to Rancho Del Rey (RDR), north and south of East H St.
If you are willing to pay about $100 mo. HOA then go to Terra Nova. This SOLD has one of the few unobstructed full views of dtn. SD in the subdivision!
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090041981-490_Smoky_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Back to your $895K McMansion (3725 SF) on Watson Ranch St. in PQ, did you notice it has exorbitant MR? This figure probably does NOT include mo. street bonds or HOA. And how do you park a vehicle in front of one garage door and still drive into the other garage?? We used to laugh about McMillin’s “space-saving-tandem” design in Otay Ranch. For these reasons, Watson Ranch St. did GREAT to fetch $895K, IMO. Add in A/C costs onto this property 4-5 mos. per yr., “regular” prop. taxes and fire policy and omg, it’s a recipe for another “60-Minutes-white-elephant walk-away.”
And why would the buyers need to have an income of $250K to 300K to buy this?? Aren’t they bringing in a downpayment?
Here are listings which sold recently in 91910 in the very exclusive gated Comm. of Belmonte (BVM and BVH schools & Discovery Elem. Sch. [w/Spanish immersion program]). They have HOA and are comparable in size to your Watson Ranch SOLD. 15 mi. from dtn – half the distance of PQ. Ocean breezes on the 2nd highest hill in the area. No A/C needed here. Hey, isn’t PQ 30+ miles inland??
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100000434-405_Milagrosa_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100003133-443_Milagrosa_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are three 91910 SOLDS where the MR is comparable to your Least Tern Ct. SOLD in PQ. Same schools as Belmonte.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100012643-1149_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090065388-1177_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069880-1013_Burga_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
The low MR on the first two links is retiring in 2-3 yrs.
I don’t know where the jobs are near PQ. I am out of touch with the area but last time I looked there were four companies on Carroll Cyn. Rd. in Scripps Ranch – LOL.
There are a lot of companies in Eastlake now (8+ mi) and a few in Otay Mesa (7-8 mi) from dtn. CV. And then your usual shipbuilding and Navy jobs + proximity to dtn. SD.
I’m sorry, AN, what was the “draw” of PQ again?? Oh, tech jobs. O-o-o-o-k-kay. Well, maybe we will “grow” some tech jobs in Otay Mesa one day 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100017243-84….
Closed at 895k. . .http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100010307-12…. Closed for $760k for a 2384 sq-ft house. . .
How many 2300 sq-ft house in 91910 w/ only 7500 sq-ft NO-view lot can fetch $760k?[/quote]
AN, I didn’t see any on SDLookup SOLDS but I think you might be trying to compare apples to oranges here.
A lot of the housing stock in 91910 (north of H St. and west of 805) are fixers. There are not many family-type “bread and butter” properties, as you call them, near dtn. CV. Most of the orig. built 1800+ sf properties in the western portion of 91910 are located south of H St.
The “coveted” properties near dtn. CV on 1+ AC lots, such as these active listings, don’t come up the market very often, for good reason – PRIVACY. In addition, they are located just over ONE MILE from the bay, which spells “cool breeze.”
This thing took at least 3 years to build.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100028590-475_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here’s a light fixer on the same st. I’ve was inside a few yrs. ago and it’s in relatively good shape. Needs new appls. and deck repair. Over 1 AC lot/2 levels.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100025182-445_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are two examples of recent SOLD comps in the dtn./Hilltop area.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100011582-10_2nd_Ave_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Not a bad price pd. for the “Lucious Wright House” considering it’s Mills Act contract and $860 yr. prop tax bill. Buy a tractor mower – LOL.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069677-333_Hilltop_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Whoever got this fixer got an AWESOME deal. It’s in GREAT cond. on the outside and has a 120 ft. long driveway.
Do any Piggs have REALIST around here? I would venture that these were both ALL-CASH deals.
The above properties, a “move-on” and “custom” are less than one mile from each other. Look at the diversity. Then add your 777SF “short-sale hopeful” on 2nd and G (7 min. walk to Carvalos St. and 5 min. walk to 333 Hilltop) to this pile and there you have it. A mishmash of non-homogenous properties. I’ve seen two properties with atriums in the middle of the step-down ‘60’s LR (yes, complete with dirt, recirculating fountain and real trees) and brass intercom system in the middle of this ‘hood. Dtn. Chula cannot even be compared to PQ. It is a completely different market. The small tracts here are mostly WWII boxes. Many are completely remodeled.
[quote=AN]I guess the big recurring theme here is that for almost all of the older areas around Chula Vista, the housing stock is VERY diverse. You have $200k starter homes all the way up to $2M custom homes.[/quote]
Now you understand, except make that $200K to $4M.
If you want 70’s or 80’s built without MR, you will have to go to East J St. (E. of 805). Part of north side has great views but entire area suffers from high power lines. If you are willing to pay MR (and sometimes street bonds) then go to Rancho Del Rey (RDR), north and south of East H St.
If you are willing to pay about $100 mo. HOA then go to Terra Nova. This SOLD has one of the few unobstructed full views of dtn. SD in the subdivision!
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090041981-490_Smoky_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Back to your $895K McMansion (3725 SF) on Watson Ranch St. in PQ, did you notice it has exorbitant MR? This figure probably does NOT include mo. street bonds or HOA. And how do you park a vehicle in front of one garage door and still drive into the other garage?? We used to laugh about McMillin’s “space-saving-tandem” design in Otay Ranch. For these reasons, Watson Ranch St. did GREAT to fetch $895K, IMO. Add in A/C costs onto this property 4-5 mos. per yr., “regular” prop. taxes and fire policy and omg, it’s a recipe for another “60-Minutes-white-elephant walk-away.”
And why would the buyers need to have an income of $250K to 300K to buy this?? Aren’t they bringing in a downpayment?
Here are listings which sold recently in 91910 in the very exclusive gated Comm. of Belmonte (BVM and BVH schools & Discovery Elem. Sch. [w/Spanish immersion program]). They have HOA and are comparable in size to your Watson Ranch SOLD. 15 mi. from dtn – half the distance of PQ. Ocean breezes on the 2nd highest hill in the area. No A/C needed here. Hey, isn’t PQ 30+ miles inland??
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100000434-405_Milagrosa_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100003133-443_Milagrosa_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are three 91910 SOLDS where the MR is comparable to your Least Tern Ct. SOLD in PQ. Same schools as Belmonte.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100012643-1149_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090065388-1177_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069880-1013_Burga_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
The low MR on the first two links is retiring in 2-3 yrs.
I don’t know where the jobs are near PQ. I am out of touch with the area but last time I looked there were four companies on Carroll Cyn. Rd. in Scripps Ranch – LOL.
There are a lot of companies in Eastlake now (8+ mi) and a few in Otay Mesa (7-8 mi) from dtn. CV. And then your usual shipbuilding and Navy jobs + proximity to dtn. SD.
I’m sorry, AN, what was the “draw” of PQ again?? Oh, tech jobs. O-o-o-o-k-kay. Well, maybe we will “grow” some tech jobs in Otay Mesa one day 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100017243-84….
Closed at 895k. . .http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100010307-12…. Closed for $760k for a 2384 sq-ft house. . .
How many 2300 sq-ft house in 91910 w/ only 7500 sq-ft NO-view lot can fetch $760k?[/quote]
AN, I didn’t see any on SDLookup SOLDS but I think you might be trying to compare apples to oranges here.
A lot of the housing stock in 91910 (north of H St. and west of 805) are fixers. There are not many family-type “bread and butter” properties, as you call them, near dtn. CV. Most of the orig. built 1800+ sf properties in the western portion of 91910 are located south of H St.
The “coveted” properties near dtn. CV on 1+ AC lots, such as these active listings, don’t come up the market very often, for good reason – PRIVACY. In addition, they are located just over ONE MILE from the bay, which spells “cool breeze.”
This thing took at least 3 years to build.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100028590-475_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here’s a light fixer on the same st. I’ve was inside a few yrs. ago and it’s in relatively good shape. Needs new appls. and deck repair. Over 1 AC lot/2 levels.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100025182-445_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are two examples of recent SOLD comps in the dtn./Hilltop area.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100011582-10_2nd_Ave_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Not a bad price pd. for the “Lucious Wright House” considering it’s Mills Act contract and $860 yr. prop tax bill. Buy a tractor mower – LOL.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069677-333_Hilltop_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Whoever got this fixer got an AWESOME deal. It’s in GREAT cond. on the outside and has a 120 ft. long driveway.
Do any Piggs have REALIST around here? I would venture that these were both ALL-CASH deals.
The above properties, a “move-on” and “custom” are less than one mile from each other. Look at the diversity. Then add your 777SF “short-sale hopeful” on 2nd and G (7 min. walk to Carvalos St. and 5 min. walk to 333 Hilltop) to this pile and there you have it. A mishmash of non-homogenous properties. I’ve seen two properties with atriums in the middle of the step-down ‘60’s LR (yes, complete with dirt, recirculating fountain and real trees) and brass intercom system in the middle of this ‘hood. Dtn. Chula cannot even be compared to PQ. It is a completely different market. The small tracts here are mostly WWII boxes. Many are completely remodeled.
[quote=AN]I guess the big recurring theme here is that for almost all of the older areas around Chula Vista, the housing stock is VERY diverse. You have $200k starter homes all the way up to $2M custom homes.[/quote]
Now you understand, except make that $200K to $4M.
If you want 70’s or 80’s built without MR, you will have to go to East J St. (E. of 805). Part of north side has great views but entire area suffers from high power lines. If you are willing to pay MR (and sometimes street bonds) then go to Rancho Del Rey (RDR), north and south of East H St.
If you are willing to pay about $100 mo. HOA then go to Terra Nova. This SOLD has one of the few unobstructed full views of dtn. SD in the subdivision!
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090041981-490_Smoky_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Back to your $895K McMansion (3725 SF) on Watson Ranch St. in PQ, did you notice it has exorbitant MR? This figure probably does NOT include mo. street bonds or HOA. And how do you park a vehicle in front of one garage door and still drive into the other garage?? We used to laugh about McMillin’s “space-saving-tandem” design in Otay Ranch. For these reasons, Watson Ranch St. did GREAT to fetch $895K, IMO. Add in A/C costs onto this property 4-5 mos. per yr., “regular” prop. taxes and fire policy and omg, it’s a recipe for another “60-Minutes-white-elephant walk-away.”
And why would the buyers need to have an income of $250K to 300K to buy this?? Aren’t they bringing in a downpayment?
Here are listings which sold recently in 91910 in the very exclusive gated Comm. of Belmonte (BVM and BVH schools & Discovery Elem. Sch. [w/Spanish immersion program]). They have HOA and are comparable in size to your Watson Ranch SOLD. 15 mi. from dtn – half the distance of PQ. Ocean breezes on the 2nd highest hill in the area. No A/C needed here. Hey, isn’t PQ 30+ miles inland??
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100000434-405_Milagrosa_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100003133-443_Milagrosa_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are three 91910 SOLDS where the MR is comparable to your Least Tern Ct. SOLD in PQ. Same schools as Belmonte.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100012643-1149_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090065388-1177_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069880-1013_Burga_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
The low MR on the first two links is retiring in 2-3 yrs.
I don’t know where the jobs are near PQ. I am out of touch with the area but last time I looked there were four companies on Carroll Cyn. Rd. in Scripps Ranch – LOL.
There are a lot of companies in Eastlake now (8+ mi) and a few in Otay Mesa (7-8 mi) from dtn. CV. And then your usual shipbuilding and Navy jobs + proximity to dtn. SD.
I’m sorry, AN, what was the “draw” of PQ again?? Oh, tech jobs. O-o-o-o-k-kay. Well, maybe we will “grow” some tech jobs in Otay Mesa one day 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100017243-84….
Closed at 895k. . .http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100010307-12…. Closed for $760k for a 2384 sq-ft house. . .
How many 2300 sq-ft house in 91910 w/ only 7500 sq-ft NO-view lot can fetch $760k?[/quote]
AN, I didn’t see any on SDLookup SOLDS but I think you might be trying to compare apples to oranges here.
A lot of the housing stock in 91910 (north of H St. and west of 805) are fixers. There are not many family-type “bread and butter” properties, as you call them, near dtn. CV. Most of the orig. built 1800+ sf properties in the western portion of 91910 are located south of H St.
The “coveted” properties near dtn. CV on 1+ AC lots, such as these active listings, don’t come up the market very often, for good reason – PRIVACY. In addition, they are located just over ONE MILE from the bay, which spells “cool breeze.”
This thing took at least 3 years to build.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100028590-475_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here’s a light fixer on the same st. I’ve was inside a few yrs. ago and it’s in relatively good shape. Needs new appls. and deck repair. Over 1 AC lot/2 levels.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100025182-445_Carvalos_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are two examples of recent SOLD comps in the dtn./Hilltop area.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100011582-10_2nd_Ave_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Not a bad price pd. for the “Lucious Wright House” considering it’s Mills Act contract and $860 yr. prop tax bill. Buy a tractor mower – LOL.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069677-333_Hilltop_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Whoever got this fixer got an AWESOME deal. It’s in GREAT cond. on the outside and has a 120 ft. long driveway.
Do any Piggs have REALIST around here? I would venture that these were both ALL-CASH deals.
The above properties, a “move-on” and “custom” are less than one mile from each other. Look at the diversity. Then add your 777SF “short-sale hopeful” on 2nd and G (7 min. walk to Carvalos St. and 5 min. walk to 333 Hilltop) to this pile and there you have it. A mishmash of non-homogenous properties. I’ve seen two properties with atriums in the middle of the step-down ‘60’s LR (yes, complete with dirt, recirculating fountain and real trees) and brass intercom system in the middle of this ‘hood. Dtn. Chula cannot even be compared to PQ. It is a completely different market. The small tracts here are mostly WWII boxes. Many are completely remodeled.
[quote=AN]I guess the big recurring theme here is that for almost all of the older areas around Chula Vista, the housing stock is VERY diverse. You have $200k starter homes all the way up to $2M custom homes.[/quote]
Now you understand, except make that $200K to $4M.
If you want 70’s or 80’s built without MR, you will have to go to East J St. (E. of 805). Part of north side has great views but entire area suffers from high power lines. If you are willing to pay MR (and sometimes street bonds) then go to Rancho Del Rey (RDR), north and south of East H St.
If you are willing to pay about $100 mo. HOA then go to Terra Nova. This SOLD has one of the few unobstructed full views of dtn. SD in the subdivision!
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090041981-490_Smoky_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Back to your $895K McMansion (3725 SF) on Watson Ranch St. in PQ, did you notice it has exorbitant MR? This figure probably does NOT include mo. street bonds or HOA. And how do you park a vehicle in front of one garage door and still drive into the other garage?? We used to laugh about McMillin’s “space-saving-tandem” design in Otay Ranch. For these reasons, Watson Ranch St. did GREAT to fetch $895K, IMO. Add in A/C costs onto this property 4-5 mos. per yr., “regular” prop. taxes and fire policy and omg, it’s a recipe for another “60-Minutes-white-elephant walk-away.”
And why would the buyers need to have an income of $250K to 300K to buy this?? Aren’t they bringing in a downpayment?
Here are listings which sold recently in 91910 in the very exclusive gated Comm. of Belmonte (BVM and BVH schools & Discovery Elem. Sch. [w/Spanish immersion program]). They have HOA and are comparable in size to your Watson Ranch SOLD. 15 mi. from dtn – half the distance of PQ. Ocean breezes on the 2nd highest hill in the area. No A/C needed here. Hey, isn’t PQ 30+ miles inland??
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100000434-405_Milagrosa_Cir_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100003133-443_Milagrosa_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
Here are three 91910 SOLDS where the MR is comparable to your Least Tern Ct. SOLD in PQ. Same schools as Belmonte.
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-100012643-1149_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090065388-1177_Carlos_Canyon_Dr_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-090069880-1013_Burga_Loop_Chula_Vista_CA_91910
The low MR on the first two links is retiring in 2-3 yrs.
I don’t know where the jobs are near PQ. I am out of touch with the area but last time I looked there were four companies on Carroll Cyn. Rd. in Scripps Ranch – LOL.
There are a lot of companies in Eastlake now (8+ mi) and a few in Otay Mesa (7-8 mi) from dtn. CV. And then your usual shipbuilding and Navy jobs + proximity to dtn. SD.
I’m sorry, AN, what was the “draw” of PQ again?? Oh, tech jobs. O-o-o-o-k-kay. Well, maybe we will “grow” some tech jobs in Otay Mesa one day 🙂
Participant[quote=AN]http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-Bonita-Houses_For_Sale-91902, this is the list of all active listings in 91902. This is where I got the $200k price from. As you can see from that list, there are 5 in the $200k range, 6 in the $300k range. So, although they’re not the majority of 91902, they are there. There are 11 properties currently active above $700k and 11 properties bellow $400k. So, I stand corrected. Their range should be $400k-600k, not $200k-600k. You do get a lot for $400k-$600k here. I wish I can get that kind of house for that kind of price up here.[/quote]
I have just started using SD Lookup b/c Piggs are using it and it is SHOCKING to me to see street after street how much the prices have fallen!
Participant[quote=AN]http://www.sdlookup.com/Real_Estate-Bonita-Houses_For_Sale-91902, this is the list of all active listings in 91902. This is where I got the $200k price from. As you can see from that list, there are 5 in the $200k range, 6 in the $300k range. So, although they’re not the majority of 91902, they are there. There are 11 properties currently active above $700k and 11 properties bellow $400k. So, I stand corrected. Their range should be $400k-600k, not $200k-600k. You do get a lot for $400k-$600k here. I wish I can get that kind of house for that kind of price up here.[/quote]
I have just started using SD Lookup b/c Piggs are using it and it is SHOCKING to me to see street after street how much the prices have fallen!
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