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Participant[quote=Russell]Where did I say I live in a superior community? Jamul would be off topic on this thread right?Actually, not fighting for my neighborhood here.If I mentioned Jamul I apologize for the thread-jack.[/quote]
You didn’t Russell. sdduuuuude gave you away đ
Participant[quote=Russell]Where did I say I live in a superior community? Jamul would be off topic on this thread right?Actually, not fighting for my neighborhood here.If I mentioned Jamul I apologize for the thread-jack.[/quote]
You didn’t Russell. sdduuuuude gave you away đ
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am not labeling anything, but driving through neighborhoods, at different times does give one a feeling if he would like it there. It is a perception, right? It may or may not be right. you can’t know it intimate until you live in it some.[/quote]
Scarlett, you CAN get out and park and walk and visit your prospective buying area day and night and esp. Fri/Sat. nights to get a better “feel” for it, as you may be doing now. You can also plant yourself there at the time you leave for work in the morning and drive yourself to work to gauge the time it takes.
If your kids came home from school in their new neighborhood happy and were meeting new friends, would you remove them from that school because YOU didn’t like it? Are you sure you’re not discounting schools because of YOUR perception? After all, it is elem. school we’re talking about here, right?
My comments were posted on *your* thread but not directed to YOU, in particular. I was using the $500K as an example b/c that was your price range.
I guess I’m a little out of touch because when I was young and raising kids, I don’t recall my generation as being that “picky” about neighborhoods and such and MR wasn’t even an issue then. I’m getting a feel from this Board that many Piggs in the market to buy right now or that have recently purchased are a younger demographic that are college-educated (only 34% of people in my age group have a college degree and I am NOT among them). Most of these posters seemed OBSESSED with finding a “pristine” or “flawless” environment for their kids to grow up in and there really IS NONE. When their kids actually go to work after living their lives in their parent’s well-chosen “cloistered, gated HOA bedroom,” how will they “deal” with the “grit and disappointments” of the “real world?”
I think you and your spouse made a very wise move by getting out of your condo in RB when you did. You could be deeply underwater by now and stuck, trying to renegotiate your loan(s) or listing it for a “short-sale.”
I’m with you about Tierrasanta and San Carlos. They are too far away from your employers. In addition, TS schools are full of “transient students,” reflective of one of the largest military housing complexes in the country situated there, plus another large mil. complex, just across the fwy. Henry High and Green Elem. in SC and Grossmont High in Fletcher Hills are good schools but the well-built homes there near Cowles Mtn. and adjacent FH probably exceed your price range. Lemon Elem. at the foot of Mt. Helix is also a good school. HOWEVER, the homes surrounding it are quite old and for the most part need a lot of work (some are on septic). IMO, the construction in Clairemont is far superior to TS and half of SC and the climate is also cooler.
Scarlett, I know you can find something in 92110, 92111, 92117, 92121 or 92122 that meets your needs if you are patient and are not afraid of a little work (that doesn’t have to be done all at once).
As has been posted earlier on this thread, there’s nothing wrong with renting in an area you’re interested in first to see how *you* and *your family* like it. Why don’t you scout some private (not REO) listings to see if there are any seniors willing to give you a lease/option because they don’t feel they can presently compete with REOs? Have your agent check withdrawn listings for you. Just an idea.
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am not labeling anything, but driving through neighborhoods, at different times does give one a feeling if he would like it there. It is a perception, right? It may or may not be right. you can’t know it intimate until you live in it some.[/quote]
Scarlett, you CAN get out and park and walk and visit your prospective buying area day and night and esp. Fri/Sat. nights to get a better “feel” for it, as you may be doing now. You can also plant yourself there at the time you leave for work in the morning and drive yourself to work to gauge the time it takes.
If your kids came home from school in their new neighborhood happy and were meeting new friends, would you remove them from that school because YOU didn’t like it? Are you sure you’re not discounting schools because of YOUR perception? After all, it is elem. school we’re talking about here, right?
My comments were posted on *your* thread but not directed to YOU, in particular. I was using the $500K as an example b/c that was your price range.
I guess I’m a little out of touch because when I was young and raising kids, I don’t recall my generation as being that “picky” about neighborhoods and such and MR wasn’t even an issue then. I’m getting a feel from this Board that many Piggs in the market to buy right now or that have recently purchased are a younger demographic that are college-educated (only 34% of people in my age group have a college degree and I am NOT among them). Most of these posters seemed OBSESSED with finding a “pristine” or “flawless” environment for their kids to grow up in and there really IS NONE. When their kids actually go to work after living their lives in their parent’s well-chosen “cloistered, gated HOA bedroom,” how will they “deal” with the “grit and disappointments” of the “real world?”
I think you and your spouse made a very wise move by getting out of your condo in RB when you did. You could be deeply underwater by now and stuck, trying to renegotiate your loan(s) or listing it for a “short-sale.”
I’m with you about Tierrasanta and San Carlos. They are too far away from your employers. In addition, TS schools are full of “transient students,” reflective of one of the largest military housing complexes in the country situated there, plus another large mil. complex, just across the fwy. Henry High and Green Elem. in SC and Grossmont High in Fletcher Hills are good schools but the well-built homes there near Cowles Mtn. and adjacent FH probably exceed your price range. Lemon Elem. at the foot of Mt. Helix is also a good school. HOWEVER, the homes surrounding it are quite old and for the most part need a lot of work (some are on septic). IMO, the construction in Clairemont is far superior to TS and half of SC and the climate is also cooler.
Scarlett, I know you can find something in 92110, 92111, 92117, 92121 or 92122 that meets your needs if you are patient and are not afraid of a little work (that doesn’t have to be done all at once).
As has been posted earlier on this thread, there’s nothing wrong with renting in an area you’re interested in first to see how *you* and *your family* like it. Why don’t you scout some private (not REO) listings to see if there are any seniors willing to give you a lease/option because they don’t feel they can presently compete with REOs? Have your agent check withdrawn listings for you. Just an idea.
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am not labeling anything, but driving through neighborhoods, at different times does give one a feeling if he would like it there. It is a perception, right? It may or may not be right. you can’t know it intimate until you live in it some.[/quote]
Scarlett, you CAN get out and park and walk and visit your prospective buying area day and night and esp. Fri/Sat. nights to get a better “feel” for it, as you may be doing now. You can also plant yourself there at the time you leave for work in the morning and drive yourself to work to gauge the time it takes.
If your kids came home from school in their new neighborhood happy and were meeting new friends, would you remove them from that school because YOU didn’t like it? Are you sure you’re not discounting schools because of YOUR perception? After all, it is elem. school we’re talking about here, right?
My comments were posted on *your* thread but not directed to YOU, in particular. I was using the $500K as an example b/c that was your price range.
I guess I’m a little out of touch because when I was young and raising kids, I don’t recall my generation as being that “picky” about neighborhoods and such and MR wasn’t even an issue then. I’m getting a feel from this Board that many Piggs in the market to buy right now or that have recently purchased are a younger demographic that are college-educated (only 34% of people in my age group have a college degree and I am NOT among them). Most of these posters seemed OBSESSED with finding a “pristine” or “flawless” environment for their kids to grow up in and there really IS NONE. When their kids actually go to work after living their lives in their parent’s well-chosen “cloistered, gated HOA bedroom,” how will they “deal” with the “grit and disappointments” of the “real world?”
I think you and your spouse made a very wise move by getting out of your condo in RB when you did. You could be deeply underwater by now and stuck, trying to renegotiate your loan(s) or listing it for a “short-sale.”
I’m with you about Tierrasanta and San Carlos. They are too far away from your employers. In addition, TS schools are full of “transient students,” reflective of one of the largest military housing complexes in the country situated there, plus another large mil. complex, just across the fwy. Henry High and Green Elem. in SC and Grossmont High in Fletcher Hills are good schools but the well-built homes there near Cowles Mtn. and adjacent FH probably exceed your price range. Lemon Elem. at the foot of Mt. Helix is also a good school. HOWEVER, the homes surrounding it are quite old and for the most part need a lot of work (some are on septic). IMO, the construction in Clairemont is far superior to TS and half of SC and the climate is also cooler.
Scarlett, I know you can find something in 92110, 92111, 92117, 92121 or 92122 that meets your needs if you are patient and are not afraid of a little work (that doesn’t have to be done all at once).
As has been posted earlier on this thread, there’s nothing wrong with renting in an area you’re interested in first to see how *you* and *your family* like it. Why don’t you scout some private (not REO) listings to see if there are any seniors willing to give you a lease/option because they don’t feel they can presently compete with REOs? Have your agent check withdrawn listings for you. Just an idea.
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am not labeling anything, but driving through neighborhoods, at different times does give one a feeling if he would like it there. It is a perception, right? It may or may not be right. you can’t know it intimate until you live in it some.[/quote]
Scarlett, you CAN get out and park and walk and visit your prospective buying area day and night and esp. Fri/Sat. nights to get a better “feel” for it, as you may be doing now. You can also plant yourself there at the time you leave for work in the morning and drive yourself to work to gauge the time it takes.
If your kids came home from school in their new neighborhood happy and were meeting new friends, would you remove them from that school because YOU didn’t like it? Are you sure you’re not discounting schools because of YOUR perception? After all, it is elem. school we’re talking about here, right?
My comments were posted on *your* thread but not directed to YOU, in particular. I was using the $500K as an example b/c that was your price range.
I guess I’m a little out of touch because when I was young and raising kids, I don’t recall my generation as being that “picky” about neighborhoods and such and MR wasn’t even an issue then. I’m getting a feel from this Board that many Piggs in the market to buy right now or that have recently purchased are a younger demographic that are college-educated (only 34% of people in my age group have a college degree and I am NOT among them). Most of these posters seemed OBSESSED with finding a “pristine” or “flawless” environment for their kids to grow up in and there really IS NONE. When their kids actually go to work after living their lives in their parent’s well-chosen “cloistered, gated HOA bedroom,” how will they “deal” with the “grit and disappointments” of the “real world?”
I think you and your spouse made a very wise move by getting out of your condo in RB when you did. You could be deeply underwater by now and stuck, trying to renegotiate your loan(s) or listing it for a “short-sale.”
I’m with you about Tierrasanta and San Carlos. They are too far away from your employers. In addition, TS schools are full of “transient students,” reflective of one of the largest military housing complexes in the country situated there, plus another large mil. complex, just across the fwy. Henry High and Green Elem. in SC and Grossmont High in Fletcher Hills are good schools but the well-built homes there near Cowles Mtn. and adjacent FH probably exceed your price range. Lemon Elem. at the foot of Mt. Helix is also a good school. HOWEVER, the homes surrounding it are quite old and for the most part need a lot of work (some are on septic). IMO, the construction in Clairemont is far superior to TS and half of SC and the climate is also cooler.
Scarlett, I know you can find something in 92110, 92111, 92117, 92121 or 92122 that meets your needs if you are patient and are not afraid of a little work (that doesn’t have to be done all at once).
As has been posted earlier on this thread, there’s nothing wrong with renting in an area you’re interested in first to see how *you* and *your family* like it. Why don’t you scout some private (not REO) listings to see if there are any seniors willing to give you a lease/option because they don’t feel they can presently compete with REOs? Have your agent check withdrawn listings for you. Just an idea.
Participant[quote=Scarlett]I am not labeling anything, but driving through neighborhoods, at different times does give one a feeling if he would like it there. It is a perception, right? It may or may not be right. you can’t know it intimate until you live in it some.[/quote]
Scarlett, you CAN get out and park and walk and visit your prospective buying area day and night and esp. Fri/Sat. nights to get a better “feel” for it, as you may be doing now. You can also plant yourself there at the time you leave for work in the morning and drive yourself to work to gauge the time it takes.
If your kids came home from school in their new neighborhood happy and were meeting new friends, would you remove them from that school because YOU didn’t like it? Are you sure you’re not discounting schools because of YOUR perception? After all, it is elem. school we’re talking about here, right?
My comments were posted on *your* thread but not directed to YOU, in particular. I was using the $500K as an example b/c that was your price range.
I guess I’m a little out of touch because when I was young and raising kids, I don’t recall my generation as being that “picky” about neighborhoods and such and MR wasn’t even an issue then. I’m getting a feel from this Board that many Piggs in the market to buy right now or that have recently purchased are a younger demographic that are college-educated (only 34% of people in my age group have a college degree and I am NOT among them). Most of these posters seemed OBSESSED with finding a “pristine” or “flawless” environment for their kids to grow up in and there really IS NONE. When their kids actually go to work after living their lives in their parent’s well-chosen “cloistered, gated HOA bedroom,” how will they “deal” with the “grit and disappointments” of the “real world?”
I think you and your spouse made a very wise move by getting out of your condo in RB when you did. You could be deeply underwater by now and stuck, trying to renegotiate your loan(s) or listing it for a “short-sale.”
I’m with you about Tierrasanta and San Carlos. They are too far away from your employers. In addition, TS schools are full of “transient students,” reflective of one of the largest military housing complexes in the country situated there, plus another large mil. complex, just across the fwy. Henry High and Green Elem. in SC and Grossmont High in Fletcher Hills are good schools but the well-built homes there near Cowles Mtn. and adjacent FH probably exceed your price range. Lemon Elem. at the foot of Mt. Helix is also a good school. HOWEVER, the homes surrounding it are quite old and for the most part need a lot of work (some are on septic). IMO, the construction in Clairemont is far superior to TS and half of SC and the climate is also cooler.
Scarlett, I know you can find something in 92110, 92111, 92117, 92121 or 92122 that meets your needs if you are patient and are not afraid of a little work (that doesn’t have to be done all at once).
As has been posted earlier on this thread, there’s nothing wrong with renting in an area you’re interested in first to see how *you* and *your family* like it. Why don’t you scout some private (not REO) listings to see if there are any seniors willing to give you a lease/option because they don’t feel they can presently compete with REOs? Have your agent check withdrawn listings for you. Just an idea.
Participant[quote=Russell]Is there any place in the county that is more cloistered by freeways than Clairemont? Where are kids supposed to play without the major risk or a drive by abduction? Tiny little parks on busy surface streets . . . [/quote]
I just canât resist jousting Russellâs comments. Wow, Russell, where do YOU live that’s superior to Clairemont?? Could it be . . . Jamul??? omg, better have an acct. with a muffler shop!! Getting into some of those driveways out there can be challenging unless youâre driving a lifted truck â LOL. Oh, and I know two âexecutivesâ that purchased out there during the âbubble,â and have since spent a small fortune on remodeling, concrete, fill dirt, etc. Alas, the area has CRATERED in value and they are SO UNDERWATER, cash-wise. Still there, because they have so much CASH INVESTED. What else can they do??
I live in an urban downtown area âsurrounded by fwysâ (Chula) and see six year olds riding their bikes everywhere, even to mom and pop stores and Seven-Eleven to buy milk. Many 80+ year old people walk with their walkers or ride their scooters daily and well as all other ages, some 2-3x day, same route. NOBODY has wrought iron on the windows, very few have alarm systems and children play in the front yards and play ball in the street and sidewalks. Even developmentally disabled adults find their way home successfully from the bus stop after attending “Day School.” If ANYONE is vulnerable, these people are. We have plenty of parks and BIG back yards but for the most part, neighbors are social. Many are too old to drive. For the most part, this is the safest, most âLeave it to Beaverâ âhood I have ever lived in.
[quote=Russell] I see the overall atmosphere in the area as not conducive to what I consider comfortable family living compared to that which can be had on relatively equal terms otherwise….[/quote]
Russell, if my l-o-o-o-o-ng memory serves me correctly, the âabductionsâ here I’ve been privy to the details of have been âcrimes of opportunity:â
1) boys riding bikes every day home from school on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Nestor)
2) parents high, partying, and asleep at the switch (Sabre Springs)
3) teenage girl walking home alone from bus stop on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Bonita)
4) young woman stopped under dark fwy viaduct at Mercy Rd. (opportunity AND trust & authority due to badge) (PQ)
5) young boy in beach bathroom alone with no male escort while aunt waited outside (O’Side)
6) 4th grade girl riding bike on nearby cyn rim alone (North Park)
The only little girl that I remember getting plucked out of her front yard lived in Otay Mesa, on a busy street.
The recent incidences of the murders of two teenagers in RB, one on a public and open jogging trail are very sad. Neither should have been alone but who was to know?? I might have at one time jogged alone on the same trail. The perpetrator was classified by CDC as a sexually violent predator. This is a completely different animal than your “garden variety” sex registrant in that the condition is incurable. Of course, he should have early on been sentenced indefinitely to a state mental institution.
Even if two nine year olds are TOGETHER riding bikes or walking, it will severely lessen the odds that either will be abducted (staying in public sight and not inside 8â Donax Reed).
You can’t worry about every single citizen living in a particular area that has had to “register” as a sex-offender at one time or another. Most pled guilty or were convicted 20, 30, or 40 or more years ago of “molesting” a relative or family friend and have had no incident since. I lived in Bonita in an era where its feeder middle and high schools had a âCA Distinguished Schoolâ label. Yet during that whole time there were no less than six âsex registrantsâ living within a 3 block radius of us. I’m NOT on the side of the “criminal” but you need to train your kids on what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior from adults and that they are not obligated to be respectful of a person just because they’re an adult. If anyone were to try to abduct or attack one of them, G@d help the attacker as it would be very ugly and noisy.
Bet. â90 and â92, I conducted some very successful open houses ALONE on listings located in 92113, 92114, 91945, 92154, 92139 and 91977, always wearing a dress or skirt and pumps. Out of those zips, my listing off 44th St., just south the beautiful Greenwood Cemetery grounds (Mtn. View 92113) , a little well-built house I sold for $107K, was in the quietest âhood. I might have had pepper spray in my possession during those open houses but never had to use it. There were no cell phones. I had a pager and sometimes a house phone. Never had one problem whatsoever and drugs, burglary and auto theft were MUCH more of a problem then than now.
If a potential buyer has a cap of say $500K to spend on a property and then discounts a zip code or neighborhood because they perceive it to be too near a fwy (subjective), has registered sex offenders living nearby, don’t “think” they’ll like the schools, perceive it to be “blue collar,” perceive it to be “too old,” only see “old people” when driving around, worry about nearby “shopping,” perceive it to be too “ghetto,” etc., then they may as well move to the middle of Montana because they won’t find anything in SD County that âmeets their needs.â After they get settled in âMontana,â they may realize a neighbor or two has built an underground fortress with their own fortified arsenals in preparation for âArmageddonâ â LOL!
Hereâs a common SD example of âmistaken perception.â A very high percentage of 92107 lives on public assistance, incl. TANF, SSI, SSD, VA Disability, SDI, worker’s comp, etc., but its SFR value is higher than avg. with many properties exceeding $1M in value. You could drive along a couple of the main sts there and assume it’s “ghetto, working class, party-town, hangout for runaways and beach bums,” etc. But that couldn’t be further from the truth because YOU can’t afford to live there unless you have a section 8 voucher or rent an apt. on a transient day/week/month st.
Keep an open mind. Donât âlabelâ a community unless you have intimate knowledge of it. âNuff said.
Participant[quote=Russell]Is there any place in the county that is more cloistered by freeways than Clairemont? Where are kids supposed to play without the major risk or a drive by abduction? Tiny little parks on busy surface streets . . . [/quote]
I just canât resist jousting Russellâs comments. Wow, Russell, where do YOU live that’s superior to Clairemont?? Could it be . . . Jamul??? omg, better have an acct. with a muffler shop!! Getting into some of those driveways out there can be challenging unless youâre driving a lifted truck â LOL. Oh, and I know two âexecutivesâ that purchased out there during the âbubble,â and have since spent a small fortune on remodeling, concrete, fill dirt, etc. Alas, the area has CRATERED in value and they are SO UNDERWATER, cash-wise. Still there, because they have so much CASH INVESTED. What else can they do??
I live in an urban downtown area âsurrounded by fwysâ (Chula) and see six year olds riding their bikes everywhere, even to mom and pop stores and Seven-Eleven to buy milk. Many 80+ year old people walk with their walkers or ride their scooters daily and well as all other ages, some 2-3x day, same route. NOBODY has wrought iron on the windows, very few have alarm systems and children play in the front yards and play ball in the street and sidewalks. Even developmentally disabled adults find their way home successfully from the bus stop after attending “Day School.” If ANYONE is vulnerable, these people are. We have plenty of parks and BIG back yards but for the most part, neighbors are social. Many are too old to drive. For the most part, this is the safest, most âLeave it to Beaverâ âhood I have ever lived in.
[quote=Russell] I see the overall atmosphere in the area as not conducive to what I consider comfortable family living compared to that which can be had on relatively equal terms otherwise….[/quote]
Russell, if my l-o-o-o-o-ng memory serves me correctly, the âabductionsâ here I’ve been privy to the details of have been âcrimes of opportunity:â
1) boys riding bikes every day home from school on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Nestor)
2) parents high, partying, and asleep at the switch (Sabre Springs)
3) teenage girl walking home alone from bus stop on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Bonita)
4) young woman stopped under dark fwy viaduct at Mercy Rd. (opportunity AND trust & authority due to badge) (PQ)
5) young boy in beach bathroom alone with no male escort while aunt waited outside (O’Side)
6) 4th grade girl riding bike on nearby cyn rim alone (North Park)
The only little girl that I remember getting plucked out of her front yard lived in Otay Mesa, on a busy street.
The recent incidences of the murders of two teenagers in RB, one on a public and open jogging trail are very sad. Neither should have been alone but who was to know?? I might have at one time jogged alone on the same trail. The perpetrator was classified by CDC as a sexually violent predator. This is a completely different animal than your “garden variety” sex registrant in that the condition is incurable. Of course, he should have early on been sentenced indefinitely to a state mental institution.
Even if two nine year olds are TOGETHER riding bikes or walking, it will severely lessen the odds that either will be abducted (staying in public sight and not inside 8â Donax Reed).
You can’t worry about every single citizen living in a particular area that has had to “register” as a sex-offender at one time or another. Most pled guilty or were convicted 20, 30, or 40 or more years ago of “molesting” a relative or family friend and have had no incident since. I lived in Bonita in an era where its feeder middle and high schools had a âCA Distinguished Schoolâ label. Yet during that whole time there were no less than six âsex registrantsâ living within a 3 block radius of us. I’m NOT on the side of the “criminal” but you need to train your kids on what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior from adults and that they are not obligated to be respectful of a person just because they’re an adult. If anyone were to try to abduct or attack one of them, G@d help the attacker as it would be very ugly and noisy.
Bet. â90 and â92, I conducted some very successful open houses ALONE on listings located in 92113, 92114, 91945, 92154, 92139 and 91977, always wearing a dress or skirt and pumps. Out of those zips, my listing off 44th St., just south the beautiful Greenwood Cemetery grounds (Mtn. View 92113) , a little well-built house I sold for $107K, was in the quietest âhood. I might have had pepper spray in my possession during those open houses but never had to use it. There were no cell phones. I had a pager and sometimes a house phone. Never had one problem whatsoever and drugs, burglary and auto theft were MUCH more of a problem then than now.
If a potential buyer has a cap of say $500K to spend on a property and then discounts a zip code or neighborhood because they perceive it to be too near a fwy (subjective), has registered sex offenders living nearby, don’t “think” they’ll like the schools, perceive it to be “blue collar,” perceive it to be “too old,” only see “old people” when driving around, worry about nearby “shopping,” perceive it to be too “ghetto,” etc., then they may as well move to the middle of Montana because they won’t find anything in SD County that âmeets their needs.â After they get settled in âMontana,â they may realize a neighbor or two has built an underground fortress with their own fortified arsenals in preparation for âArmageddonâ â LOL!
Hereâs a common SD example of âmistaken perception.â A very high percentage of 92107 lives on public assistance, incl. TANF, SSI, SSD, VA Disability, SDI, worker’s comp, etc., but its SFR value is higher than avg. with many properties exceeding $1M in value. You could drive along a couple of the main sts there and assume it’s “ghetto, working class, party-town, hangout for runaways and beach bums,” etc. But that couldn’t be further from the truth because YOU can’t afford to live there unless you have a section 8 voucher or rent an apt. on a transient day/week/month st.
Keep an open mind. Donât âlabelâ a community unless you have intimate knowledge of it. âNuff said.
Participant[quote=Russell]Is there any place in the county that is more cloistered by freeways than Clairemont? Where are kids supposed to play without the major risk or a drive by abduction? Tiny little parks on busy surface streets . . . [/quote]
I just canât resist jousting Russellâs comments. Wow, Russell, where do YOU live that’s superior to Clairemont?? Could it be . . . Jamul??? omg, better have an acct. with a muffler shop!! Getting into some of those driveways out there can be challenging unless youâre driving a lifted truck â LOL. Oh, and I know two âexecutivesâ that purchased out there during the âbubble,â and have since spent a small fortune on remodeling, concrete, fill dirt, etc. Alas, the area has CRATERED in value and they are SO UNDERWATER, cash-wise. Still there, because they have so much CASH INVESTED. What else can they do??
I live in an urban downtown area âsurrounded by fwysâ (Chula) and see six year olds riding their bikes everywhere, even to mom and pop stores and Seven-Eleven to buy milk. Many 80+ year old people walk with their walkers or ride their scooters daily and well as all other ages, some 2-3x day, same route. NOBODY has wrought iron on the windows, very few have alarm systems and children play in the front yards and play ball in the street and sidewalks. Even developmentally disabled adults find their way home successfully from the bus stop after attending “Day School.” If ANYONE is vulnerable, these people are. We have plenty of parks and BIG back yards but for the most part, neighbors are social. Many are too old to drive. For the most part, this is the safest, most âLeave it to Beaverâ âhood I have ever lived in.
[quote=Russell] I see the overall atmosphere in the area as not conducive to what I consider comfortable family living compared to that which can be had on relatively equal terms otherwise….[/quote]
Russell, if my l-o-o-o-o-ng memory serves me correctly, the âabductionsâ here I’ve been privy to the details of have been âcrimes of opportunity:â
1) boys riding bikes every day home from school on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Nestor)
2) parents high, partying, and asleep at the switch (Sabre Springs)
3) teenage girl walking home alone from bus stop on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Bonita)
4) young woman stopped under dark fwy viaduct at Mercy Rd. (opportunity AND trust & authority due to badge) (PQ)
5) young boy in beach bathroom alone with no male escort while aunt waited outside (O’Side)
6) 4th grade girl riding bike on nearby cyn rim alone (North Park)
The only little girl that I remember getting plucked out of her front yard lived in Otay Mesa, on a busy street.
The recent incidences of the murders of two teenagers in RB, one on a public and open jogging trail are very sad. Neither should have been alone but who was to know?? I might have at one time jogged alone on the same trail. The perpetrator was classified by CDC as a sexually violent predator. This is a completely different animal than your “garden variety” sex registrant in that the condition is incurable. Of course, he should have early on been sentenced indefinitely to a state mental institution.
Even if two nine year olds are TOGETHER riding bikes or walking, it will severely lessen the odds that either will be abducted (staying in public sight and not inside 8â Donax Reed).
You can’t worry about every single citizen living in a particular area that has had to “register” as a sex-offender at one time or another. Most pled guilty or were convicted 20, 30, or 40 or more years ago of “molesting” a relative or family friend and have had no incident since. I lived in Bonita in an era where its feeder middle and high schools had a âCA Distinguished Schoolâ label. Yet during that whole time there were no less than six âsex registrantsâ living within a 3 block radius of us. I’m NOT on the side of the “criminal” but you need to train your kids on what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior from adults and that they are not obligated to be respectful of a person just because they’re an adult. If anyone were to try to abduct or attack one of them, G@d help the attacker as it would be very ugly and noisy.
Bet. â90 and â92, I conducted some very successful open houses ALONE on listings located in 92113, 92114, 91945, 92154, 92139 and 91977, always wearing a dress or skirt and pumps. Out of those zips, my listing off 44th St., just south the beautiful Greenwood Cemetery grounds (Mtn. View 92113) , a little well-built house I sold for $107K, was in the quietest âhood. I might have had pepper spray in my possession during those open houses but never had to use it. There were no cell phones. I had a pager and sometimes a house phone. Never had one problem whatsoever and drugs, burglary and auto theft were MUCH more of a problem then than now.
If a potential buyer has a cap of say $500K to spend on a property and then discounts a zip code or neighborhood because they perceive it to be too near a fwy (subjective), has registered sex offenders living nearby, don’t “think” they’ll like the schools, perceive it to be “blue collar,” perceive it to be “too old,” only see “old people” when driving around, worry about nearby “shopping,” perceive it to be too “ghetto,” etc., then they may as well move to the middle of Montana because they won’t find anything in SD County that âmeets their needs.â After they get settled in âMontana,â they may realize a neighbor or two has built an underground fortress with their own fortified arsenals in preparation for âArmageddonâ â LOL!
Hereâs a common SD example of âmistaken perception.â A very high percentage of 92107 lives on public assistance, incl. TANF, SSI, SSD, VA Disability, SDI, worker’s comp, etc., but its SFR value is higher than avg. with many properties exceeding $1M in value. You could drive along a couple of the main sts there and assume it’s “ghetto, working class, party-town, hangout for runaways and beach bums,” etc. But that couldn’t be further from the truth because YOU can’t afford to live there unless you have a section 8 voucher or rent an apt. on a transient day/week/month st.
Keep an open mind. Donât âlabelâ a community unless you have intimate knowledge of it. âNuff said.
Participant[quote=Russell]Is there any place in the county that is more cloistered by freeways than Clairemont? Where are kids supposed to play without the major risk or a drive by abduction? Tiny little parks on busy surface streets . . . [/quote]
I just canât resist jousting Russellâs comments. Wow, Russell, where do YOU live that’s superior to Clairemont?? Could it be . . . Jamul??? omg, better have an acct. with a muffler shop!! Getting into some of those driveways out there can be challenging unless youâre driving a lifted truck â LOL. Oh, and I know two âexecutivesâ that purchased out there during the âbubble,â and have since spent a small fortune on remodeling, concrete, fill dirt, etc. Alas, the area has CRATERED in value and they are SO UNDERWATER, cash-wise. Still there, because they have so much CASH INVESTED. What else can they do??
I live in an urban downtown area âsurrounded by fwysâ (Chula) and see six year olds riding their bikes everywhere, even to mom and pop stores and Seven-Eleven to buy milk. Many 80+ year old people walk with their walkers or ride their scooters daily and well as all other ages, some 2-3x day, same route. NOBODY has wrought iron on the windows, very few have alarm systems and children play in the front yards and play ball in the street and sidewalks. Even developmentally disabled adults find their way home successfully from the bus stop after attending “Day School.” If ANYONE is vulnerable, these people are. We have plenty of parks and BIG back yards but for the most part, neighbors are social. Many are too old to drive. For the most part, this is the safest, most âLeave it to Beaverâ âhood I have ever lived in.
[quote=Russell] I see the overall atmosphere in the area as not conducive to what I consider comfortable family living compared to that which can be had on relatively equal terms otherwise….[/quote]
Russell, if my l-o-o-o-o-ng memory serves me correctly, the âabductionsâ here I’ve been privy to the details of have been âcrimes of opportunity:â
1) boys riding bikes every day home from school on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Nestor)
2) parents high, partying, and asleep at the switch (Sabre Springs)
3) teenage girl walking home alone from bus stop on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Bonita)
4) young woman stopped under dark fwy viaduct at Mercy Rd. (opportunity AND trust & authority due to badge) (PQ)
5) young boy in beach bathroom alone with no male escort while aunt waited outside (O’Side)
6) 4th grade girl riding bike on nearby cyn rim alone (North Park)
The only little girl that I remember getting plucked out of her front yard lived in Otay Mesa, on a busy street.
The recent incidences of the murders of two teenagers in RB, one on a public and open jogging trail are very sad. Neither should have been alone but who was to know?? I might have at one time jogged alone on the same trail. The perpetrator was classified by CDC as a sexually violent predator. This is a completely different animal than your “garden variety” sex registrant in that the condition is incurable. Of course, he should have early on been sentenced indefinitely to a state mental institution.
Even if two nine year olds are TOGETHER riding bikes or walking, it will severely lessen the odds that either will be abducted (staying in public sight and not inside 8â Donax Reed).
You can’t worry about every single citizen living in a particular area that has had to “register” as a sex-offender at one time or another. Most pled guilty or were convicted 20, 30, or 40 or more years ago of “molesting” a relative or family friend and have had no incident since. I lived in Bonita in an era where its feeder middle and high schools had a âCA Distinguished Schoolâ label. Yet during that whole time there were no less than six âsex registrantsâ living within a 3 block radius of us. I’m NOT on the side of the “criminal” but you need to train your kids on what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior from adults and that they are not obligated to be respectful of a person just because they’re an adult. If anyone were to try to abduct or attack one of them, G@d help the attacker as it would be very ugly and noisy.
Bet. â90 and â92, I conducted some very successful open houses ALONE on listings located in 92113, 92114, 91945, 92154, 92139 and 91977, always wearing a dress or skirt and pumps. Out of those zips, my listing off 44th St., just south the beautiful Greenwood Cemetery grounds (Mtn. View 92113) , a little well-built house I sold for $107K, was in the quietest âhood. I might have had pepper spray in my possession during those open houses but never had to use it. There were no cell phones. I had a pager and sometimes a house phone. Never had one problem whatsoever and drugs, burglary and auto theft were MUCH more of a problem then than now.
If a potential buyer has a cap of say $500K to spend on a property and then discounts a zip code or neighborhood because they perceive it to be too near a fwy (subjective), has registered sex offenders living nearby, don’t “think” they’ll like the schools, perceive it to be “blue collar,” perceive it to be “too old,” only see “old people” when driving around, worry about nearby “shopping,” perceive it to be too “ghetto,” etc., then they may as well move to the middle of Montana because they won’t find anything in SD County that âmeets their needs.â After they get settled in âMontana,â they may realize a neighbor or two has built an underground fortress with their own fortified arsenals in preparation for âArmageddonâ â LOL!
Hereâs a common SD example of âmistaken perception.â A very high percentage of 92107 lives on public assistance, incl. TANF, SSI, SSD, VA Disability, SDI, worker’s comp, etc., but its SFR value is higher than avg. with many properties exceeding $1M in value. You could drive along a couple of the main sts there and assume it’s “ghetto, working class, party-town, hangout for runaways and beach bums,” etc. But that couldn’t be further from the truth because YOU can’t afford to live there unless you have a section 8 voucher or rent an apt. on a transient day/week/month st.
Keep an open mind. Donât âlabelâ a community unless you have intimate knowledge of it. âNuff said.
Participant[quote=Russell]Is there any place in the county that is more cloistered by freeways than Clairemont? Where are kids supposed to play without the major risk or a drive by abduction? Tiny little parks on busy surface streets . . . [/quote]
I just canât resist jousting Russellâs comments. Wow, Russell, where do YOU live that’s superior to Clairemont?? Could it be . . . Jamul??? omg, better have an acct. with a muffler shop!! Getting into some of those driveways out there can be challenging unless youâre driving a lifted truck â LOL. Oh, and I know two âexecutivesâ that purchased out there during the âbubble,â and have since spent a small fortune on remodeling, concrete, fill dirt, etc. Alas, the area has CRATERED in value and they are SO UNDERWATER, cash-wise. Still there, because they have so much CASH INVESTED. What else can they do??
I live in an urban downtown area âsurrounded by fwysâ (Chula) and see six year olds riding their bikes everywhere, even to mom and pop stores and Seven-Eleven to buy milk. Many 80+ year old people walk with their walkers or ride their scooters daily and well as all other ages, some 2-3x day, same route. NOBODY has wrought iron on the windows, very few have alarm systems and children play in the front yards and play ball in the street and sidewalks. Even developmentally disabled adults find their way home successfully from the bus stop after attending “Day School.” If ANYONE is vulnerable, these people are. We have plenty of parks and BIG back yards but for the most part, neighbors are social. Many are too old to drive. For the most part, this is the safest, most âLeave it to Beaverâ âhood I have ever lived in.
[quote=Russell] I see the overall atmosphere in the area as not conducive to what I consider comfortable family living compared to that which can be had on relatively equal terms otherwise….[/quote]
Russell, if my l-o-o-o-o-ng memory serves me correctly, the âabductionsâ here I’ve been privy to the details of have been âcrimes of opportunity:â
1) boys riding bikes every day home from school on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Nestor)
2) parents high, partying, and asleep at the switch (Sabre Springs)
3) teenage girl walking home alone from bus stop on trail surrounded by 8′ Donax Reed (Bonita)
4) young woman stopped under dark fwy viaduct at Mercy Rd. (opportunity AND trust & authority due to badge) (PQ)
5) young boy in beach bathroom alone with no male escort while aunt waited outside (O’Side)
6) 4th grade girl riding bike on nearby cyn rim alone (North Park)
The only little girl that I remember getting plucked out of her front yard lived in Otay Mesa, on a busy street.
The recent incidences of the murders of two teenagers in RB, one on a public and open jogging trail are very sad. Neither should have been alone but who was to know?? I might have at one time jogged alone on the same trail. The perpetrator was classified by CDC as a sexually violent predator. This is a completely different animal than your “garden variety” sex registrant in that the condition is incurable. Of course, he should have early on been sentenced indefinitely to a state mental institution.
Even if two nine year olds are TOGETHER riding bikes or walking, it will severely lessen the odds that either will be abducted (staying in public sight and not inside 8â Donax Reed).
You can’t worry about every single citizen living in a particular area that has had to “register” as a sex-offender at one time or another. Most pled guilty or were convicted 20, 30, or 40 or more years ago of “molesting” a relative or family friend and have had no incident since. I lived in Bonita in an era where its feeder middle and high schools had a âCA Distinguished Schoolâ label. Yet during that whole time there were no less than six âsex registrantsâ living within a 3 block radius of us. I’m NOT on the side of the “criminal” but you need to train your kids on what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior from adults and that they are not obligated to be respectful of a person just because they’re an adult. If anyone were to try to abduct or attack one of them, G@d help the attacker as it would be very ugly and noisy.
Bet. â90 and â92, I conducted some very successful open houses ALONE on listings located in 92113, 92114, 91945, 92154, 92139 and 91977, always wearing a dress or skirt and pumps. Out of those zips, my listing off 44th St., just south the beautiful Greenwood Cemetery grounds (Mtn. View 92113) , a little well-built house I sold for $107K, was in the quietest âhood. I might have had pepper spray in my possession during those open houses but never had to use it. There were no cell phones. I had a pager and sometimes a house phone. Never had one problem whatsoever and drugs, burglary and auto theft were MUCH more of a problem then than now.
If a potential buyer has a cap of say $500K to spend on a property and then discounts a zip code or neighborhood because they perceive it to be too near a fwy (subjective), has registered sex offenders living nearby, don’t “think” they’ll like the schools, perceive it to be “blue collar,” perceive it to be “too old,” only see “old people” when driving around, worry about nearby “shopping,” perceive it to be too “ghetto,” etc., then they may as well move to the middle of Montana because they won’t find anything in SD County that âmeets their needs.â After they get settled in âMontana,â they may realize a neighbor or two has built an underground fortress with their own fortified arsenals in preparation for âArmageddonâ â LOL!
Hereâs a common SD example of âmistaken perception.â A very high percentage of 92107 lives on public assistance, incl. TANF, SSI, SSD, VA Disability, SDI, worker’s comp, etc., but its SFR value is higher than avg. with many properties exceeding $1M in value. You could drive along a couple of the main sts there and assume it’s “ghetto, working class, party-town, hangout for runaways and beach bums,” etc. But that couldn’t be further from the truth because YOU can’t afford to live there unless you have a section 8 voucher or rent an apt. on a transient day/week/month st.
Keep an open mind. Donât âlabelâ a community unless you have intimate knowledge of it. âNuff said.
Participant[quote=EconProf]I suspect a lot of these 5+ bedroom McMansions are dinasaurs and will suffer greviously on a price per SF basis. When rising utility costs are factored in along with Americans’ coming healthy desire to downsize, quality and location will triumph over size. A smaller footprint is a good thing.[/quote]
I wholeheartedly agree, Econprof. But you forgot to add their exorbitant MR and HOA to the mix. Thanks for posting!
Participant[quote=EconProf]I suspect a lot of these 5+ bedroom McMansions are dinasaurs and will suffer greviously on a price per SF basis. When rising utility costs are factored in along with Americans’ coming healthy desire to downsize, quality and location will triumph over size. A smaller footprint is a good thing.[/quote]
I wholeheartedly agree, Econprof. But you forgot to add their exorbitant MR and HOA to the mix. Thanks for posting!
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