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ParticipantHere are the data for 2010, 2000, and 1990.
2010:
Median income – 62.7k
median housing price = 328k
median housing price/median income = 5.222000:
Median income – 47.2k
median housing price = 223k
median housing price/median income = 4.7251990:
Median income – 35k
median housing price = 188k
median housing price/median income = 5.36So, we’re worse off than 2000 but better off than 1990. This does not account for interest rate at all.
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Participant[quote=CA renter]
1. IMHO, one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing a lot of cash buyers is because interest rates are being held so painfully low. Investors are able to buy rentals or flips, and make a MUCH better return than what they are currently getting in savings or fixed income. If rates rise, I believe a lot of this money will disappear, as the housing market will have to compete with better returns on fixed income and savings.[/quote]
I think you have that backward. If rates rises and assuming price doesn’t rise along w/ rates, I foresee even more cash buyers in areas where there are a lot of cash buyers right now. In Fresno for example, where there are a lot of cash deals for investment properties, right now, places that rent for $1k/month is selling for $60-90k. Assuming current rates for 5.25%, PITI is ~$400/month. If those properties doesn’t rise with rates and rates goes up to 8%, the PITI will be ~$500/month. The 3% increase in interest might push some investor to pay for the properties in cash instead of financing at a low interest. If they pay cash for that $60k-$90k, their ROI is between 13-20% before any tax write off or additional 1 time costs. Now, lets assume price goes down a little bit as rate rises, the ROI will be that much higher. So, I can see even more cash buyers.an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
1. IMHO, one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing a lot of cash buyers is because interest rates are being held so painfully low. Investors are able to buy rentals or flips, and make a MUCH better return than what they are currently getting in savings or fixed income. If rates rise, I believe a lot of this money will disappear, as the housing market will have to compete with better returns on fixed income and savings.[/quote]
I think you have that backward. If rates rises and assuming price doesn’t rise along w/ rates, I foresee even more cash buyers in areas where there are a lot of cash buyers right now. In Fresno for example, where there are a lot of cash deals for investment properties, right now, places that rent for $1k/month is selling for $60-90k. Assuming current rates for 5.25%, PITI is ~$400/month. If those properties doesn’t rise with rates and rates goes up to 8%, the PITI will be ~$500/month. The 3% increase in interest might push some investor to pay for the properties in cash instead of financing at a low interest. If they pay cash for that $60k-$90k, their ROI is between 13-20% before any tax write off or additional 1 time costs. Now, lets assume price goes down a little bit as rate rises, the ROI will be that much higher. So, I can see even more cash buyers.an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
1. IMHO, one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing a lot of cash buyers is because interest rates are being held so painfully low. Investors are able to buy rentals or flips, and make a MUCH better return than what they are currently getting in savings or fixed income. If rates rise, I believe a lot of this money will disappear, as the housing market will have to compete with better returns on fixed income and savings.[/quote]
I think you have that backward. If rates rises and assuming price doesn’t rise along w/ rates, I foresee even more cash buyers in areas where there are a lot of cash buyers right now. In Fresno for example, where there are a lot of cash deals for investment properties, right now, places that rent for $1k/month is selling for $60-90k. Assuming current rates for 5.25%, PITI is ~$400/month. If those properties doesn’t rise with rates and rates goes up to 8%, the PITI will be ~$500/month. The 3% increase in interest might push some investor to pay for the properties in cash instead of financing at a low interest. If they pay cash for that $60k-$90k, their ROI is between 13-20% before any tax write off or additional 1 time costs. Now, lets assume price goes down a little bit as rate rises, the ROI will be that much higher. So, I can see even more cash buyers.an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
1. IMHO, one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing a lot of cash buyers is because interest rates are being held so painfully low. Investors are able to buy rentals or flips, and make a MUCH better return than what they are currently getting in savings or fixed income. If rates rise, I believe a lot of this money will disappear, as the housing market will have to compete with better returns on fixed income and savings.[/quote]
I think you have that backward. If rates rises and assuming price doesn’t rise along w/ rates, I foresee even more cash buyers in areas where there are a lot of cash buyers right now. In Fresno for example, where there are a lot of cash deals for investment properties, right now, places that rent for $1k/month is selling for $60-90k. Assuming current rates for 5.25%, PITI is ~$400/month. If those properties doesn’t rise with rates and rates goes up to 8%, the PITI will be ~$500/month. The 3% increase in interest might push some investor to pay for the properties in cash instead of financing at a low interest. If they pay cash for that $60k-$90k, their ROI is between 13-20% before any tax write off or additional 1 time costs. Now, lets assume price goes down a little bit as rate rises, the ROI will be that much higher. So, I can see even more cash buyers.an
Participant[quote=CA renter]
1. IMHO, one of the biggest reasons we’re seeing a lot of cash buyers is because interest rates are being held so painfully low. Investors are able to buy rentals or flips, and make a MUCH better return than what they are currently getting in savings or fixed income. If rates rise, I believe a lot of this money will disappear, as the housing market will have to compete with better returns on fixed income and savings.[/quote]
I think you have that backward. If rates rises and assuming price doesn’t rise along w/ rates, I foresee even more cash buyers in areas where there are a lot of cash buyers right now. In Fresno for example, where there are a lot of cash deals for investment properties, right now, places that rent for $1k/month is selling for $60-90k. Assuming current rates for 5.25%, PITI is ~$400/month. If those properties doesn’t rise with rates and rates goes up to 8%, the PITI will be ~$500/month. The 3% increase in interest might push some investor to pay for the properties in cash instead of financing at a low interest. If they pay cash for that $60k-$90k, their ROI is between 13-20% before any tax write off or additional 1 time costs. Now, lets assume price goes down a little bit as rate rises, the ROI will be that much higher. So, I can see even more cash buyers.an
ParticipantMy gardener rocks too. I didn’t refer him to anyone, but I pay him bi-weekly when he starting out billing monthly. He must have loved that.
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ParticipantMy gardener rocks too. I didn’t refer him to anyone, but I pay him bi-weekly when he starting out billing monthly. He must have loved that.
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ParticipantMy gardener rocks too. I didn’t refer him to anyone, but I pay him bi-weekly when he starting out billing monthly. He must have loved that.
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