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Participant[quote=CDMA ENG]What they really are saying is that currently they plan to make thier devices frequency dependent. I predict this will last about a year. Simple truth is that the handset makers radio will be able to do business on all of these frequencies. The chip makers do not want to retool to make the chip frequncy dependent therefore there will be some hardware or software fix, to limit searchable frequencies, for this which will take some smart hacker all of about 6 months to figure out. Trust me, someone will jail break these devices and then it game on. The handset is being hijacked as to hopefully keeping the consumer with them. Eventually these tactics fall apart and techincally the phone will be able to handle all of the 700 block and 2100 AWS spectrum.
This is all just a marketing scheme for now.
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So, in essence, you’re saying I was right w/ my original state of:
[quote=AN]What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]
You’re speculating that they’ll play nice in the future, but that’s nothing more than speculation. We’ll have to wait and see, but in the mean time, LTE devices today or in the next year can’t be used across the 2 different network.Participant[quote=SmellsFeeshy][quote=AN]LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]
I see. I read some articles saying that starting this summer AT&T is rolling out their LTE but only in six cities, none of which are here unfortunately.
Wonder if I should hold out on buying a new phone that is capable of LTE… Decisions, decisions. How long do you guys think it will be until we get AT&T LTE service in San Diego? I would assume that SD would be one of the major “2nd tier” markets. Of course if I wait another 6 months I can just switch to VZW and get an LTE phone for sure.[/quote]
I have no idea when AT&T will provide SD w/ LTE coverage, but I know VZW has been expanding their LTE network very aggressively this past year.Participant[quote=SmellsFeeshy][quote=AN]LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]
I see. I read some articles saying that starting this summer AT&T is rolling out their LTE but only in six cities, none of which are here unfortunately.
Wonder if I should hold out on buying a new phone that is capable of LTE… Decisions, decisions. How long do you guys think it will be until we get AT&T LTE service in San Diego? I would assume that SD would be one of the major “2nd tier” markets. Of course if I wait another 6 months I can just switch to VZW and get an LTE phone for sure.[/quote]
I have no idea when AT&T will provide SD w/ LTE coverage, but I know VZW has been expanding their LTE network very aggressively this past year.Participant[quote=SmellsFeeshy][quote=AN]LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]
I see. I read some articles saying that starting this summer AT&T is rolling out their LTE but only in six cities, none of which are here unfortunately.
Wonder if I should hold out on buying a new phone that is capable of LTE… Decisions, decisions. How long do you guys think it will be until we get AT&T LTE service in San Diego? I would assume that SD would be one of the major “2nd tier” markets. Of course if I wait another 6 months I can just switch to VZW and get an LTE phone for sure.[/quote]
I have no idea when AT&T will provide SD w/ LTE coverage, but I know VZW has been expanding their LTE network very aggressively this past year.Participant[quote=SmellsFeeshy][quote=AN]LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]
I see. I read some articles saying that starting this summer AT&T is rolling out their LTE but only in six cities, none of which are here unfortunately.
Wonder if I should hold out on buying a new phone that is capable of LTE… Decisions, decisions. How long do you guys think it will be until we get AT&T LTE service in San Diego? I would assume that SD would be one of the major “2nd tier” markets. Of course if I wait another 6 months I can just switch to VZW and get an LTE phone for sure.[/quote]
I have no idea when AT&T will provide SD w/ LTE coverage, but I know VZW has been expanding their LTE network very aggressively this past year.Participant[quote=SmellsFeeshy][quote=AN]LTE is an entirely different network. So, the short answer is no. What I’ve read is that, even LTE phones between VZW and AT&T are not compatible due to the different frequencies that the 2 LTE network operate at.[/quote]
I see. I read some articles saying that starting this summer AT&T is rolling out their LTE but only in six cities, none of which are here unfortunately.
Wonder if I should hold out on buying a new phone that is capable of LTE… Decisions, decisions. How long do you guys think it will be until we get AT&T LTE service in San Diego? I would assume that SD would be one of the major “2nd tier” markets. Of course if I wait another 6 months I can just switch to VZW and get an LTE phone for sure.[/quote]
I have no idea when AT&T will provide SD w/ LTE coverage, but I know VZW has been expanding their LTE network very aggressively this past year.Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=AN]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. [/quote]It represents the lack of perspective. Just like people show the lack of perspective when they show concern over federal debt and demand spending cuts now lest we become Italy/Greece. When the real danger is for us to become Japan. But I digress.
Most Americans won’t retire in a condo in Del Mar or in a 4000 sq ft house, or go dumpster diving. The question as originally posed was “how much is okay for retirement?”. The answer to that question is zero. There is a senior apartment complex not far from where I live. I’m fairly sure that, if I were 65 right now, I’d be able to afford to live there on my SS benefits with no savings whatsoever. And I wouldn’t even have to move to a lower cost-of-living state. I don’t think that SS or Medicare will get rolled back substantially by 2040, because the majority of Americans don’t have enough savings to last more than a year or two without SS and Medicare. And seniors vote. They will saddle their grandchildren with whatever taxes necessary to ensure retirement that does not involve dumpster-diving or eating cat food.
Then at some point “how much is okay for retirement” somehow got twisted into “how much is okay for retirement in Del Mar”, which is the spectral opposite of the original question.
And the bizarre part, I guess, is that people continue the discussion without blinking an eye.[/quote]
For those who can and do accumulate $600k in net worth by their mid 30s, most probably don’t want to live in a senior apartment complex in Escondido. IIRC, masayako, the OP, plan is to retire in a small house or condo in Del Mar. He’s also the one with $600k net worth and he’s in his mid 30s. He wants to know if that’s enough to get him to where he wants to be. So, maybe you should read OP whole situation before calling it bizarre when the discussion is about retiring in Del Mar.Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=AN]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. [/quote]It represents the lack of perspective. Just like people show the lack of perspective when they show concern over federal debt and demand spending cuts now lest we become Italy/Greece. When the real danger is for us to become Japan. But I digress.
Most Americans won’t retire in a condo in Del Mar or in a 4000 sq ft house, or go dumpster diving. The question as originally posed was “how much is okay for retirement?”. The answer to that question is zero. There is a senior apartment complex not far from where I live. I’m fairly sure that, if I were 65 right now, I’d be able to afford to live there on my SS benefits with no savings whatsoever. And I wouldn’t even have to move to a lower cost-of-living state. I don’t think that SS or Medicare will get rolled back substantially by 2040, because the majority of Americans don’t have enough savings to last more than a year or two without SS and Medicare. And seniors vote. They will saddle their grandchildren with whatever taxes necessary to ensure retirement that does not involve dumpster-diving or eating cat food.
Then at some point “how much is okay for retirement” somehow got twisted into “how much is okay for retirement in Del Mar”, which is the spectral opposite of the original question.
And the bizarre part, I guess, is that people continue the discussion without blinking an eye.[/quote]
For those who can and do accumulate $600k in net worth by their mid 30s, most probably don’t want to live in a senior apartment complex in Escondido. IIRC, masayako, the OP, plan is to retire in a small house or condo in Del Mar. He’s also the one with $600k net worth and he’s in his mid 30s. He wants to know if that’s enough to get him to where he wants to be. So, maybe you should read OP whole situation before calling it bizarre when the discussion is about retiring in Del Mar.Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=AN]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. [/quote]It represents the lack of perspective. Just like people show the lack of perspective when they show concern over federal debt and demand spending cuts now lest we become Italy/Greece. When the real danger is for us to become Japan. But I digress.
Most Americans won’t retire in a condo in Del Mar or in a 4000 sq ft house, or go dumpster diving. The question as originally posed was “how much is okay for retirement?”. The answer to that question is zero. There is a senior apartment complex not far from where I live. I’m fairly sure that, if I were 65 right now, I’d be able to afford to live there on my SS benefits with no savings whatsoever. And I wouldn’t even have to move to a lower cost-of-living state. I don’t think that SS or Medicare will get rolled back substantially by 2040, because the majority of Americans don’t have enough savings to last more than a year or two without SS and Medicare. And seniors vote. They will saddle their grandchildren with whatever taxes necessary to ensure retirement that does not involve dumpster-diving or eating cat food.
Then at some point “how much is okay for retirement” somehow got twisted into “how much is okay for retirement in Del Mar”, which is the spectral opposite of the original question.
And the bizarre part, I guess, is that people continue the discussion without blinking an eye.[/quote]
For those who can and do accumulate $600k in net worth by their mid 30s, most probably don’t want to live in a senior apartment complex in Escondido. IIRC, masayako, the OP, plan is to retire in a small house or condo in Del Mar. He’s also the one with $600k net worth and he’s in his mid 30s. He wants to know if that’s enough to get him to where he wants to be. So, maybe you should read OP whole situation before calling it bizarre when the discussion is about retiring in Del Mar.Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=AN]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. [/quote]It represents the lack of perspective. Just like people show the lack of perspective when they show concern over federal debt and demand spending cuts now lest we become Italy/Greece. When the real danger is for us to become Japan. But I digress.
Most Americans won’t retire in a condo in Del Mar or in a 4000 sq ft house, or go dumpster diving. The question as originally posed was “how much is okay for retirement?”. The answer to that question is zero. There is a senior apartment complex not far from where I live. I’m fairly sure that, if I were 65 right now, I’d be able to afford to live there on my SS benefits with no savings whatsoever. And I wouldn’t even have to move to a lower cost-of-living state. I don’t think that SS or Medicare will get rolled back substantially by 2040, because the majority of Americans don’t have enough savings to last more than a year or two without SS and Medicare. And seniors vote. They will saddle their grandchildren with whatever taxes necessary to ensure retirement that does not involve dumpster-diving or eating cat food.
Then at some point “how much is okay for retirement” somehow got twisted into “how much is okay for retirement in Del Mar”, which is the spectral opposite of the original question.
And the bizarre part, I guess, is that people continue the discussion without blinking an eye.[/quote]
For those who can and do accumulate $600k in net worth by their mid 30s, most probably don’t want to live in a senior apartment complex in Escondido. IIRC, masayako, the OP, plan is to retire in a small house or condo in Del Mar. He’s also the one with $600k net worth and he’s in his mid 30s. He wants to know if that’s enough to get him to where he wants to be. So, maybe you should read OP whole situation before calling it bizarre when the discussion is about retiring in Del Mar.Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=AN]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. [/quote]It represents the lack of perspective. Just like people show the lack of perspective when they show concern over federal debt and demand spending cuts now lest we become Italy/Greece. When the real danger is for us to become Japan. But I digress.
Most Americans won’t retire in a condo in Del Mar or in a 4000 sq ft house, or go dumpster diving. The question as originally posed was “how much is okay for retirement?”. The answer to that question is zero. There is a senior apartment complex not far from where I live. I’m fairly sure that, if I were 65 right now, I’d be able to afford to live there on my SS benefits with no savings whatsoever. And I wouldn’t even have to move to a lower cost-of-living state. I don’t think that SS or Medicare will get rolled back substantially by 2040, because the majority of Americans don’t have enough savings to last more than a year or two without SS and Medicare. And seniors vote. They will saddle their grandchildren with whatever taxes necessary to ensure retirement that does not involve dumpster-diving or eating cat food.
Then at some point “how much is okay for retirement” somehow got twisted into “how much is okay for retirement in Del Mar”, which is the spectral opposite of the original question.
And the bizarre part, I guess, is that people continue the discussion without blinking an eye.[/quote]
For those who can and do accumulate $600k in net worth by their mid 30s, most probably don’t want to live in a senior apartment complex in Escondido. IIRC, masayako, the OP, plan is to retire in a small house or condo in Del Mar. He’s also the one with $600k net worth and he’s in his mid 30s. He wants to know if that’s enough to get him to where he wants to be. So, maybe you should read OP whole situation before calling it bizarre when the discussion is about retiring in Del Mar.Participant[quote=Eugene]But it is somewhat bizarre to see people mentioning Del Mar and dumpster-diving in the same thread.[/quote]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. Think about it, if you have enough money to pay off a house and still have $2M in cash to spend during your retirement, why does it matter if it’s a house in Del Mar or a house in Escondido? It probably end up being cheaper to live in a 1000 sq-ft house in Del Mar than a 4000 sq-ft house in Escondido.Participant[quote=Eugene]But it is somewhat bizarre to see people mentioning Del Mar and dumpster-diving in the same thread.[/quote]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. Think about it, if you have enough money to pay off a house and still have $2M in cash to spend during your retirement, why does it matter if it’s a house in Del Mar or a house in Escondido? It probably end up being cheaper to live in a 1000 sq-ft house in Del Mar than a 4000 sq-ft house in Escondido.Participant[quote=Eugene]But it is somewhat bizarre to see people mentioning Del Mar and dumpster-diving in the same thread.[/quote]
Why is it bizarre? It’s from two different points and they’re not related/responded to each other. Think about it, if you have enough money to pay off a house and still have $2M in cash to spend during your retirement, why does it matter if it’s a house in Del Mar or a house in Escondido? It probably end up being cheaper to live in a 1000 sq-ft house in Del Mar than a 4000 sq-ft house in Escondido. -
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