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[quote=flu][quote=AN][quote=flu]I would be curious what kind of cars are the offenders. I’d say BMW drivers are the worst[/quote]
Guys driving BMW? :-D[/quote]

lol. I missed that one… Well, you know I need to make sure I ride up really close to those folks in those nicely a appointed G35 and MDX’s with real leather to admire the interior that I don’t have….[/quote]
Please do. I have a remodeling project I like your insurance to pay for :-). If you don’t want to inconvenient your insurance, make sure your brakes can out stop my Brembos.

[an]

[quote=mike92104][quote=SK in CV][quote=mike92104]
Do you have an estimate that you didn’t just pull out of your ass?[/quote]

No, it came from the same place yours came from.[/quote]

http://www.nowandfutures.com/taxes.html%5B/quote%5D
Those damn pesky numbers.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]How do you propose to pay for government services? Magic?

Printing money is an unpredictable tax, and unpredictable inflation is bad for business. Not to mention that it favors spenders over savers, and Americans save too little as it is.[/quote]
Are those your only two suggestions (magic or tax the rich)? If you say yes, then there’s no point going forward.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]

It’s always easy for those who don’t have to pay a tax to be in favor of others having to pay it.

Not in favor nor against, just indifferent. It’s not the end of the world either way, and if the government is going to provide services, taxing is better than printing money or cutting other services to pay for them.[/quote]
Printing money is like a hidden tax, so there really no difference between one kind of tax over the other. At least with printing money, everyone get to share the pain. It always is easier to tax the other guy.

[an]

[quote=flu]I would be curious what kind of cars are the offenders. I’d say BMW drivers are the worst[/quote]
Guys driving BMW? 😀

[an]

Would be interesting to see data on which sex does more tailgating. My guess is male tend to tailgate more. If low iq is the reason for tailgating, then it doesn’t speak well for the guys out there. Guys tend to be more aggressive as well, so we must be the dumber sex.

[an]

[quote=paramount][quote=AN][quote=paramount]Wow, you’re really aggressive. Easy Cowboy.

Anyway, here’s the data on the link between aggression and Low IQ:

http://www.autismwebsite.com/crimetimes/95c/w95cp10.htm%5B/quote%5D
I must be those Low IQ people you’re talking about. Damn, you got me.[/quote]

I did get you that time…[/quote]
In the link: “But critics suggest that this may simply mean that high-IQ criminals are more likely to avoid capture.”
But here’s the data on the link between aggression and high IQ:
http://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/in-brief/2012/cognition-and-behavior-high-iq-linked-to-anxiety-in-autism
http://www.neurobiologiadoestresse.ufsc.br/odival/arquivos/selecao%20artigos%20psicologia/Hormonio%20masculino%20%20Aggression,%20dominance,%20and%20affiliation%20Their%20relationships%20with%20androgen%20levels%20and%20intelligence%20in%205-year-old%20children.pdf

Aggressive or not, low IQ or not, I just like poking holes in flawed accusations, like [quote=paramount]Here’s why most people tailgate:

Low IQ[/quote]
or
[quote=paramount]Seriously, the lower ones IQ the more aggressive they tend to be.[/quote]

[an]

[quote=paramount]Wow, you’re really aggressive. Easy Cowboy.

Anyway, here’s the data on the link between aggression and Low IQ:

http://www.autismwebsite.com/crimetimes/95c/w95cp10.htm%5B/quote%5D
I must be those Low IQ people you’re talking about. Damn, you got me.

[an]

[quote=paramount][quote=AN]
+1

Also, aggression have nothing to do with IQ. Only one who is miss informed (or just plain old ignorant) would think there’s a connection. Steve Jobs is quite an aggressive CEO. There are many stories of him railing (bullying) his subordinates for not doing what he expect of them. He’s also one of the most brilliant people of our time. On the other end of the spectrum, I know a few people with low IQ and a learning disability and they’re pretty docile, much more than your average person.[/quote]

AN: Can you or do you read? Did you notice I used a hedge word?

The roads are basically a mixing bowl; on the road we have:

dumb people
smart people
arrogant
ignorant
angry
depressed

and on and on.

You encounter them daily as you drive around.

And yes, there is a correlation between aggression and IQ, sorry AN.

There are aggressive drivers around Temecula – there are a lot of rednecks and the uneducated ignorant.

That’s why I drive an 8,000 lb Ford Excursion; I don’t tend to get many tailgaters and when I do I usually can’t see them.

I also have a 75lb pure iron class 5 hitch sticking out the back end.[/quote]
I can read just fine. Can you? Reread your own post dude. What does a statement about the road being a mixing bowl have anything to do with anything? You said most tailgaters have low IQ, the lower ones IQ the more aggressive they tend to be, and that tailgating is most often a form of aggression. I see no hedging in that statement.

However, even if you used a hedge word, where’s your proof that people with lower IQ are more aggressive? Is Temecula 100% rednecks and uneducated ignorant people? If not, how do you know those who are aggressive on the road are rednecks and uneducated ignorant people? If Temecula is 100% fill with rednecks and uneducated ignorant people, and you live in Temecula, driving a 8k lb Ford Excursion and a 75lb class 5 hitch… hmm…. nevermind…

[an]

[quote=svelte][quote=paramount]Here’s why most people tailgate:

Low IQ

Seriously, the lower ones IQ the more aggressive they tend to be.

Tailgating is most often a form of aggression and bullying.[/quote]

Or frustration with the numbskulls who can’t use their gray matter enough to get out of the way.

Seriously, did you ever stop to consider maybe tailgaters in general have quicker reflexes? Look at NASCAR drivers, f’rinstance.[/quote]
+1

Also, aggression have nothing to do with IQ. Only one who is miss informed (or just plain old ignorant) would think there’s a connection. Steve Jobs is quite an aggressive CEO. There are many stories of him railing (bullying) his subordinates for not doing what he expect of them. He’s also one of the most brilliant people of our time. On the other end of the spectrum, I know a few people with low IQ and a learning disability and they’re pretty docile, much more than your average person.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]NAStyCAR drivers. Hahahahahahahaha. Cars using technology from 1949 running round in circles like hamsters. Give me a LeMans race or a good rallye any day over NASCAR.

Anyway, what’s cool on the track isn’t necessarily on the street.[/quote]
Seriously? I’m not a NASCAR fan and I laugh at the idea of driving around in circle, but saying NASCAR cars uses technology from 1949 is just incorrect and shows your ignorance.

The tech they use in tires, aerodynamic, etc. are far more advanced than any street cars today, much less cars from 1949. If you’re talking about the OHV engines, then the OHC tech is just as old. OHC started in 1921.

Since you brought up LeMans, don’t you see them tailgating each other out of the gate and when a faster car comes up to the slower car from behind, waiting for an opportunity to past? WRC is the only series where you don’t see tailgating and it’s for very obvious reason. You can also look at F1, various GT series, etc. They all tailgate.

[an]

[quote=flu]Rarely someone tailgates me but if someone does and does for a long time,i just wash my windshield for a very long time until the person backs off or my washer fluid empties. Works great especially a lot of folks like to keep their cars spotless and works best for folks tailgating in a convertible.e[/quote]
I totally agree and that’s what I do too. Either that, or let go of the gas and slow down until they pass me. Another good way get them to stop is to just get out of their way.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]I don’t.

That’s the point – that the braking effect is very controllable and can even be zero. But at least in my car, it almost doesn’t exist unless you downshift.[/quote]
I guess it’s all about context. I’ve never driven a diesel, so I didn’t know diesel can’t engine brake when you let go of the gas in top gear going 70MPH.

[an]

[quote=spdrun]Try this.

Push the clutch. Downshift a gear. With the clutch still pushed in, rev the engine to roughly where it would be revving if it were in the “new” gear. Let go of the clutch pedal with the engine still revving.

No braking effect at all until you start letting go of the gas. Unless you want the clutch to last 30,000 miles, that’s the way a downshift should be done.

Double-clutching to save on synchros is optional (my first car has no synchro on 1st gear) :)[/quote]
Thanks for describing to me rev-matching. Just so you’re aware, I rev-match 100% of the time I down shift. I also do heal-toe as well.

Of course there won’t be braking effect if you step on the gas. Why would you expect there would be brake effect if you’re stepping on the gas?

[an]

[quote=spdrun]I said “a gear or two.” The point is to vary distance by a foot or two, making the tailgater uncomfortable without him knowing exactly WHY he’s uncomfortable. It generally works.[/quote]
Exactly, a gear or two, which to me, means if you wanna be a real punk ass, you’ll down shift 2 gears, let go of the gas, and slow down 10-20MPH w/in a few seconds. That’s what would happen if you did that with my car. Down shifting 2 gears will NOT vary the distance by a foot or two. To do that, I just let of the gas.

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