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November 7, 2007 at 1:25 PM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96818November 7, 2007 at 1:25 PM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96882
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPW: I lost my cousin during the Tet Offensive in 1968. He was with the Marines and was killed during the fighting for Hue City. I mention this because he was in my thoughts when I visited the Vietnam War Memorial, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. What Ms. Lin created was as true a memorial as I have ever seen. As a former soldier myself, it literally brought tears to my eyes, and it honors the loss and sacrifice of every one of those 58,000 soldiers, airmen, Marines and sailors who died there. To single her out for disparagement because of her ethnicity (and her age as well) is reprehensible, but entirely consistent with the rhetoric and jingoism that rears its ugly head in this country periodically.
I can remember movies like “Die Hard” and books like Crichton’s “Rising Sun” during the supposed Japanese takeover of the world. Same thing. I’m sure as China continues to ascend, we will undoubtedly focus on their hegemonic intentions as well.
What we really need to do is look inward and fix our own problems before demonizing someone else. But politicians are clever enough to recognize there are no votes in that course of action, so we’ll focus on the Chinese, or North Koreans, or “insert enemy of choice here”.
November 7, 2007 at 1:25 PM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96889Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPW: I lost my cousin during the Tet Offensive in 1968. He was with the Marines and was killed during the fighting for Hue City. I mention this because he was in my thoughts when I visited the Vietnam War Memorial, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. What Ms. Lin created was as true a memorial as I have ever seen. As a former soldier myself, it literally brought tears to my eyes, and it honors the loss and sacrifice of every one of those 58,000 soldiers, airmen, Marines and sailors who died there. To single her out for disparagement because of her ethnicity (and her age as well) is reprehensible, but entirely consistent with the rhetoric and jingoism that rears its ugly head in this country periodically.
I can remember movies like “Die Hard” and books like Crichton’s “Rising Sun” during the supposed Japanese takeover of the world. Same thing. I’m sure as China continues to ascend, we will undoubtedly focus on their hegemonic intentions as well.
What we really need to do is look inward and fix our own problems before demonizing someone else. But politicians are clever enough to recognize there are no votes in that course of action, so we’ll focus on the Chinese, or North Koreans, or “insert enemy of choice here”.
November 7, 2007 at 1:25 PM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96896Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantPW: I lost my cousin during the Tet Offensive in 1968. He was with the Marines and was killed during the fighting for Hue City. I mention this because he was in my thoughts when I visited the Vietnam War Memorial, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. What Ms. Lin created was as true a memorial as I have ever seen. As a former soldier myself, it literally brought tears to my eyes, and it honors the loss and sacrifice of every one of those 58,000 soldiers, airmen, Marines and sailors who died there. To single her out for disparagement because of her ethnicity (and her age as well) is reprehensible, but entirely consistent with the rhetoric and jingoism that rears its ugly head in this country periodically.
I can remember movies like “Die Hard” and books like Crichton’s “Rising Sun” during the supposed Japanese takeover of the world. Same thing. I’m sure as China continues to ascend, we will undoubtedly focus on their hegemonic intentions as well.
What we really need to do is look inward and fix our own problems before demonizing someone else. But politicians are clever enough to recognize there are no votes in that course of action, so we’ll focus on the Chinese, or North Koreans, or “insert enemy of choice here”.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96614Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96676Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96683Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
November 7, 2007 at 8:05 AM in reply to: Paranoids: Any ABC’s fearful of chinese bashing in the future? #96692Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRustico: While I think that internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII is a black mark on America’s reputation, you also have to put it into context: The Japanese had just attacked Pearl Harbor (with the help of Japanese spies in the Hawaiian islands), they had been running rampant in the Pacific, China and Mongolia and were potentially a threat to the west coast of the US.
You might also remember that German-Americans and Italian-Americans were also being interned, mainly members of the Bund and the Italian-American Friendship Society.
I don’t see a huge backlash against Chinese-Americans, and I would caution those that see China reprising the role of Japan, Inc. during the 1980s to please remember how that turned out for Japan.
Lastly, the biggest threat to America’s supremacy is America itself. The mess we are in at present is entirely of our own creation. Hubris, ignorance and greed have landed us in the soup and we’ll see if this generation has the sand to knuckle down and get ourselves back on track.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantWall Street Journal is reporting that Prince will resign tomorrow (Sunday) and that the Citigroup board is having an emergency meeting to discuss write-down related issues, Prince’s departure and problems associated with credit crunch and liquidity.
I would be willing to bet that Jimmie Cayne at Bear Stearns is next to go. There are rumors floating around that Bear is in play right now.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantWall Street Journal is reporting that Prince will resign tomorrow (Sunday) and that the Citigroup board is having an emergency meeting to discuss write-down related issues, Prince’s departure and problems associated with credit crunch and liquidity.
I would be willing to bet that Jimmie Cayne at Bear Stearns is next to go. There are rumors floating around that Bear is in play right now.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantWall Street Journal is reporting that Prince will resign tomorrow (Sunday) and that the Citigroup board is having an emergency meeting to discuss write-down related issues, Prince’s departure and problems associated with credit crunch and liquidity.
I would be willing to bet that Jimmie Cayne at Bear Stearns is next to go. There are rumors floating around that Bear is in play right now.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantWall Street Journal is reporting that Prince will resign tomorrow (Sunday) and that the Citigroup board is having an emergency meeting to discuss write-down related issues, Prince’s departure and problems associated with credit crunch and liquidity.
I would be willing to bet that Jimmie Cayne at Bear Stearns is next to go. There are rumors floating around that Bear is in play right now.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus and SD Realtor: Thanks so much for asking after us. We are doing fine. The fire moved north and east of us, but it came within approx 1 mile of the house (you could see the glow from the top of our driveway), and then the winds shifted.
I want to say that the response of the firefighters, Sheriffs and SDG&E has been simply amazing. My wife spoke with some firefighters at the local grocery store all the way from Napa to help out. These guys are true heroes, and the efforts they made to save homes and property was incredible.
Again, thanks for your concern and my prayers are with those still in harm’s way.
God bless.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus and SD Realtor: Thanks so much for asking after us. We are doing fine. The fire moved north and east of us, but it came within approx 1 mile of the house (you could see the glow from the top of our driveway), and then the winds shifted.
I want to say that the response of the firefighters, Sheriffs and SDG&E has been simply amazing. My wife spoke with some firefighters at the local grocery store all the way from Napa to help out. These guys are true heroes, and the efforts they made to save homes and property was incredible.
Again, thanks for your concern and my prayers are with those still in harm’s way.
God bless.
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantRus and SD Realtor: Thanks so much for asking after us. We are doing fine. The fire moved north and east of us, but it came within approx 1 mile of the house (you could see the glow from the top of our driveway), and then the winds shifted.
I want to say that the response of the firefighters, Sheriffs and SDG&E has been simply amazing. My wife spoke with some firefighters at the local grocery store all the way from Napa to help out. These guys are true heroes, and the efforts they made to save homes and property was incredible.
Again, thanks for your concern and my prayers are with those still in harm’s way.
God bless.
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