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Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: If that comment was directed my way, I’d be happy to respond. I don’t consider Bush a conservative, and I never have. I didn’t vote for him in either election, especially after watching what a hash he made of his time as governor of Texas. His days at Harkin Energy were just as enlightening, if for no other reason than showing the dangers of nepotism and cronyism.
I don’t support any of what he has done as of late, including the stimulus package. Among true conservatives, he’s considered a joke, both in terms of politics and economics. And it isn’t party before country, at least not in my case. It never has been. As I said, I didn’t vote for him in either election.
As to the two charges of moron and being worse than the Clintons, well, I’ll cheerfully take my chances against you on the first, and History will make a much more objective call on the second.
Participantgandalf: If that comment was directed my way, I’d be happy to respond. I don’t consider Bush a conservative, and I never have. I didn’t vote for him in either election, especially after watching what a hash he made of his time as governor of Texas. His days at Harkin Energy were just as enlightening, if for no other reason than showing the dangers of nepotism and cronyism.
I don’t support any of what he has done as of late, including the stimulus package. Among true conservatives, he’s considered a joke, both in terms of politics and economics. And it isn’t party before country, at least not in my case. It never has been. As I said, I didn’t vote for him in either election.
As to the two charges of moron and being worse than the Clintons, well, I’ll cheerfully take my chances against you on the first, and History will make a much more objective call on the second.
Participantgandalf: If that comment was directed my way, I’d be happy to respond. I don’t consider Bush a conservative, and I never have. I didn’t vote for him in either election, especially after watching what a hash he made of his time as governor of Texas. His days at Harkin Energy were just as enlightening, if for no other reason than showing the dangers of nepotism and cronyism.
I don’t support any of what he has done as of late, including the stimulus package. Among true conservatives, he’s considered a joke, both in terms of politics and economics. And it isn’t party before country, at least not in my case. It never has been. As I said, I didn’t vote for him in either election.
As to the two charges of moron and being worse than the Clintons, well, I’ll cheerfully take my chances against you on the first, and History will make a much more objective call on the second.
Participantmarion: Don’t forget she lies. And, we’ll all get Bill back in the bargain (speaking of lying). Depending on who the Dems choose for VP, we’ll have a delightful little triumvirate, just like we did during the last Clintonista rule.
Lest anyone else further the nonsensical “Bush lied us into the war”, we need only consider the various pronouncements of Albright, Berger, and the rest of Clinton and Co. when it came to Iraq during the Clinton Administration tenure. Anyone remember The Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998? Operation Desert Fox? The Dems position on WMDs (including Kerry, Edwards, et al)?
If you enjoy Socialism, make certain to cast a vote for Hillary. I don’t know enough about Obama to make an informed decision about him, but, even so, he’s a much better choice than she is.
Participantmarion: Don’t forget she lies. And, we’ll all get Bill back in the bargain (speaking of lying). Depending on who the Dems choose for VP, we’ll have a delightful little triumvirate, just like we did during the last Clintonista rule.
Lest anyone else further the nonsensical “Bush lied us into the war”, we need only consider the various pronouncements of Albright, Berger, and the rest of Clinton and Co. when it came to Iraq during the Clinton Administration tenure. Anyone remember The Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998? Operation Desert Fox? The Dems position on WMDs (including Kerry, Edwards, et al)?
If you enjoy Socialism, make certain to cast a vote for Hillary. I don’t know enough about Obama to make an informed decision about him, but, even so, he’s a much better choice than she is.
Participantmarion: Don’t forget she lies. And, we’ll all get Bill back in the bargain (speaking of lying). Depending on who the Dems choose for VP, we’ll have a delightful little triumvirate, just like we did during the last Clintonista rule.
Lest anyone else further the nonsensical “Bush lied us into the war”, we need only consider the various pronouncements of Albright, Berger, and the rest of Clinton and Co. when it came to Iraq during the Clinton Administration tenure. Anyone remember The Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998? Operation Desert Fox? The Dems position on WMDs (including Kerry, Edwards, et al)?
If you enjoy Socialism, make certain to cast a vote for Hillary. I don’t know enough about Obama to make an informed decision about him, but, even so, he’s a much better choice than she is.
Participantmarion: Don’t forget she lies. And, we’ll all get Bill back in the bargain (speaking of lying). Depending on who the Dems choose for VP, we’ll have a delightful little triumvirate, just like we did during the last Clintonista rule.
Lest anyone else further the nonsensical “Bush lied us into the war”, we need only consider the various pronouncements of Albright, Berger, and the rest of Clinton and Co. when it came to Iraq during the Clinton Administration tenure. Anyone remember The Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998? Operation Desert Fox? The Dems position on WMDs (including Kerry, Edwards, et al)?
If you enjoy Socialism, make certain to cast a vote for Hillary. I don’t know enough about Obama to make an informed decision about him, but, even so, he’s a much better choice than she is.
Participantmarion: Don’t forget she lies. And, we’ll all get Bill back in the bargain (speaking of lying). Depending on who the Dems choose for VP, we’ll have a delightful little triumvirate, just like we did during the last Clintonista rule.
Lest anyone else further the nonsensical “Bush lied us into the war”, we need only consider the various pronouncements of Albright, Berger, and the rest of Clinton and Co. when it came to Iraq during the Clinton Administration tenure. Anyone remember The Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998? Operation Desert Fox? The Dems position on WMDs (including Kerry, Edwards, et al)?
If you enjoy Socialism, make certain to cast a vote for Hillary. I don’t know enough about Obama to make an informed decision about him, but, even so, he’s a much better choice than she is.
Participantucodegen: Lusitania being torpedoed was WWI, not WWII. That event was what brought us into WWI, just as Pearl Harbor brought us into WWII.
Participantucodegen: Lusitania being torpedoed was WWI, not WWII. That event was what brought us into WWI, just as Pearl Harbor brought us into WWII.
Participantucodegen: Lusitania being torpedoed was WWI, not WWII. That event was what brought us into WWI, just as Pearl Harbor brought us into WWII.
Participantucodegen: Lusitania being torpedoed was WWI, not WWII. That event was what brought us into WWI, just as Pearl Harbor brought us into WWII.
Participantucodegen: Lusitania being torpedoed was WWI, not WWII. That event was what brought us into WWI, just as Pearl Harbor brought us into WWII.
Participantraptor: Stanford Research Institute in Menlo, right? As far as Bell Labs goes, my dad got his start with JPL in Pasadena, and his team did some collaborative work with Bell Labs. Talk about amazing places; Bell undoubtedly mirrors PARC for sheer cranial horsepower.
One of the projects my dad worked on was the avionics and telemetry for the F-4 Phantom, including the countermeasures package. This put him in contact with the “Skunk Works” boys out in the high desert. He said the 6 – 7 months he worked with them was the high point of his career. We got to travel out to Beale once to see the SR71 take off. Amazing aircraft, especially given the fact that the thing leaked like a sieve when it was on the ground.
That period between the late 1950s and the 1980s was a very fertile time for technological innovation. I don’t know if we will every see anything like that again.
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