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Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: I think those extra seven minutes reading in the children’s classroom were probably taken up with muddling through the “hard words”.
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: I think those extra seven minutes reading in the children’s classroom were probably taken up with muddling through the “hard words”.
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: I think those extra seven minutes reading in the children’s classroom were probably taken up with muddling through the “hard words”.
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: I couldn’t agree more with what you said. Only exception would be with the Eisenhower as president observation; it was before my time, and that period in US history will probably go down as one of the most properous and peaceful, I just don’t know how much of it is attributable to Ike. That leads me to another point regarding prosperity and economic cycles: In many instances, a president is given credit or blame where it isn’t earned or deserved.
I don’t equate Democrats with communism, and I don’t consider liberal a bad word. I think there is a fairly pervasive element on the far left of the Dems, and I think the same applies to the far right of the Repubs. I don’t like or agree with the Ann Coulter element of the right, nor do I like or agree with the Al Franken element of the left.
The problem you face as a middle ground conservative is the same one faced by middle ground liberals: The respective parties have been hijacked by the fringes. As a conservative, nothing is more abhorrent to me than Mike Huckabee claiming to be the standard bearer of conservatives within the party, and then saying we need to change the Constitution to bring it more in line with the Bible. WTF?!? That sort of thing chills my blood.
Geopolitically, it is much the same. I like Obama’s optimism, but fear his inexperience. McCain has the foreign policy chops, but there are way too many skeletons in that particular closet. As much as Hillary would like to tout her foreign policy experience, I don’t think it holds up past a casual scrutiny.
I do agree that we need to turn the page. Problem is: Who is carrying the book?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: I couldn’t agree more with what you said. Only exception would be with the Eisenhower as president observation; it was before my time, and that period in US history will probably go down as one of the most properous and peaceful, I just don’t know how much of it is attributable to Ike. That leads me to another point regarding prosperity and economic cycles: In many instances, a president is given credit or blame where it isn’t earned or deserved.
I don’t equate Democrats with communism, and I don’t consider liberal a bad word. I think there is a fairly pervasive element on the far left of the Dems, and I think the same applies to the far right of the Repubs. I don’t like or agree with the Ann Coulter element of the right, nor do I like or agree with the Al Franken element of the left.
The problem you face as a middle ground conservative is the same one faced by middle ground liberals: The respective parties have been hijacked by the fringes. As a conservative, nothing is more abhorrent to me than Mike Huckabee claiming to be the standard bearer of conservatives within the party, and then saying we need to change the Constitution to bring it more in line with the Bible. WTF?!? That sort of thing chills my blood.
Geopolitically, it is much the same. I like Obama’s optimism, but fear his inexperience. McCain has the foreign policy chops, but there are way too many skeletons in that particular closet. As much as Hillary would like to tout her foreign policy experience, I don’t think it holds up past a casual scrutiny.
I do agree that we need to turn the page. Problem is: Who is carrying the book?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: I couldn’t agree more with what you said. Only exception would be with the Eisenhower as president observation; it was before my time, and that period in US history will probably go down as one of the most properous and peaceful, I just don’t know how much of it is attributable to Ike. That leads me to another point regarding prosperity and economic cycles: In many instances, a president is given credit or blame where it isn’t earned or deserved.
I don’t equate Democrats with communism, and I don’t consider liberal a bad word. I think there is a fairly pervasive element on the far left of the Dems, and I think the same applies to the far right of the Repubs. I don’t like or agree with the Ann Coulter element of the right, nor do I like or agree with the Al Franken element of the left.
The problem you face as a middle ground conservative is the same one faced by middle ground liberals: The respective parties have been hijacked by the fringes. As a conservative, nothing is more abhorrent to me than Mike Huckabee claiming to be the standard bearer of conservatives within the party, and then saying we need to change the Constitution to bring it more in line with the Bible. WTF?!? That sort of thing chills my blood.
Geopolitically, it is much the same. I like Obama’s optimism, but fear his inexperience. McCain has the foreign policy chops, but there are way too many skeletons in that particular closet. As much as Hillary would like to tout her foreign policy experience, I don’t think it holds up past a casual scrutiny.
I do agree that we need to turn the page. Problem is: Who is carrying the book?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: I couldn’t agree more with what you said. Only exception would be with the Eisenhower as president observation; it was before my time, and that period in US history will probably go down as one of the most properous and peaceful, I just don’t know how much of it is attributable to Ike. That leads me to another point regarding prosperity and economic cycles: In many instances, a president is given credit or blame where it isn’t earned or deserved.
I don’t equate Democrats with communism, and I don’t consider liberal a bad word. I think there is a fairly pervasive element on the far left of the Dems, and I think the same applies to the far right of the Repubs. I don’t like or agree with the Ann Coulter element of the right, nor do I like or agree with the Al Franken element of the left.
The problem you face as a middle ground conservative is the same one faced by middle ground liberals: The respective parties have been hijacked by the fringes. As a conservative, nothing is more abhorrent to me than Mike Huckabee claiming to be the standard bearer of conservatives within the party, and then saying we need to change the Constitution to bring it more in line with the Bible. WTF?!? That sort of thing chills my blood.
Geopolitically, it is much the same. I like Obama’s optimism, but fear his inexperience. McCain has the foreign policy chops, but there are way too many skeletons in that particular closet. As much as Hillary would like to tout her foreign policy experience, I don’t think it holds up past a casual scrutiny.
I do agree that we need to turn the page. Problem is: Who is carrying the book?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: I couldn’t agree more with what you said. Only exception would be with the Eisenhower as president observation; it was before my time, and that period in US history will probably go down as one of the most properous and peaceful, I just don’t know how much of it is attributable to Ike. That leads me to another point regarding prosperity and economic cycles: In many instances, a president is given credit or blame where it isn’t earned or deserved.
I don’t equate Democrats with communism, and I don’t consider liberal a bad word. I think there is a fairly pervasive element on the far left of the Dems, and I think the same applies to the far right of the Repubs. I don’t like or agree with the Ann Coulter element of the right, nor do I like or agree with the Al Franken element of the left.
The problem you face as a middle ground conservative is the same one faced by middle ground liberals: The respective parties have been hijacked by the fringes. As a conservative, nothing is more abhorrent to me than Mike Huckabee claiming to be the standard bearer of conservatives within the party, and then saying we need to change the Constitution to bring it more in line with the Bible. WTF?!? That sort of thing chills my blood.
Geopolitically, it is much the same. I like Obama’s optimism, but fear his inexperience. McCain has the foreign policy chops, but there are way too many skeletons in that particular closet. As much as Hillary would like to tout her foreign policy experience, I don’t think it holds up past a casual scrutiny.
I do agree that we need to turn the page. Problem is: Who is carrying the book?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantmarion: My understanding is that Obama and Hillary are like oil and water. Granted, this understanding is the product of reading a New York Times article about a meeting they had on a tarmac whilst awaiting flights, so it might be completely wrong. However, Obama has made no secret of his disdain for the way the Clinton attack machine (Bill and Hillary both) has gone after him personally and their attempts to discredit him.
Could they be persuaded by the DNC to team up “for the good of the party”? Anybody’s guess. It would be a helluva thing, though, and long overdue in terms of both race and gender. Obama strikes me as too intelligent and self-possessed to go for that, given that Bill would undoubtedly have an outsize role in a Hillary presidency.
Bush is evil? Like devil worshipping evil? Or, more garden variety, Bond villain evil?
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: If that comment was directed my way, I’d be happy to respond. I don’t consider Bush a conservative, and I never have. I didn’t vote for him in either election, especially after watching what a hash he made of his time as governor of Texas. His days at Harkin Energy were just as enlightening, if for no other reason than showing the dangers of nepotism and cronyism.
I don’t support any of what he has done as of late, including the stimulus package. Among true conservatives, he’s considered a joke, both in terms of politics and economics. And it isn’t party before country, at least not in my case. It never has been. As I said, I didn’t vote for him in either election.
As to the two charges of moron and being worse than the Clintons, well, I’ll cheerfully take my chances against you on the first, and History will make a much more objective call on the second.
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