[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=dumbrenter][quote=FlyerInHi]Car, if I understand you well, you’re saying that citizens need guns and assault weapons because there comes a time when citizens need to kill the agents of the government.

That’s a very subjective call depending on who you are.[/quote]

I think you just summarized the 2nd amendment.[/quote]

DR: Apparently, more than a few posters were out sick the day they taught Civics/American Government at their schools.

The government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the People. This fact is obviously lost on those amongst us who seem to believe the government is in charge.

As anyone who has worn the uniform of an American soldier, sailor, airman or Marine can attest, you swear an oath to “defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic”.

The language is key. You don’t swear to defend your country, you swear to defend the Constitution.

Or, as my dad, a Marine veteran of WWII and the Korean War, put it: “Love your country. Fear your government”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=no_such_reality] Government is tracking ALL US phone calls[/quote]

NSR: Good stuff, huh? I’m sure you’ve also seen the news on the PRISM program as well. A government spying program actively aided and abetted by our good buddies at Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc. I’ve been searching my privacy settings for the “Keep the US Government the Fuck Outta my Computer” option, but no luck.

Check out the NSA’s ThinThread program and how they used the entire population of New Zealand as guinea pigs.

But, yeah, we should definitely surrender our guns. Cuz, you know, we can totally trust the gubment. For reals.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

BG: I was being snarky. Some years back, I coached a T-ball team and the parents of a five year old ask me what more they could be doing to prepare him for “The Show” (MLB).

The kid was five. He couldn’t even tie his own shoes.

People have lost their friggin’ minds, right along with their perspective and sense of proportion.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Paramount: Good job, dude. You went and frightened the nice people off.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=KIBU][quote=CA renter] The second culture/group might instead value free time, and not care at all about how their homes/neighborhoods look, nor care as much about crime because they feel that their freedoms might be curtailed if they focus too much on keeping crime rates down. They would probably NOT be willing to spend more money or work harder toward the same goals as those in the first group.[/quote]

Does this “second culture” description reminds you of something? It reminds me of the gun culture of America.[/quote]

KIBU: Now, for fun, let’s replace the word “gun” in “gun culture”, with “black” or “Hispanic”. How’s that sound?

Yeah, thought so. Nice to know that this sort of appalling ignorance is alive and well. You should really educate yourself before making such completely nonsensical comments.

Or not. Based on your earlier, and equally vapid, comments on guns, it appears you suffer from an unhealthy obsession with guns and their owners.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=DriveByLurker][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Hey, things could be worse. Apparently, the mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford, is a crackhead.

So there’s that.[/quote]

I believe the preferred term is “crack aficionado”…

http://tinyurl.com/oqhqccb%5B/quote%5D

Are you sure? I was under the impression that “aficionado” only applied to the upmarket stuff, like cocaine.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=curiousmind]Allan, when’s the Fallbrook meetup?[/quote]

Friday night at the Red Eye Saloon on Main Street. I’ll be the one with the red carnation in my lapel, sitting next to the John Birch Society poster.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Hey, things could be worse. Apparently, the mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford, is a crackhead.

So there’s that.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=CA renter][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]FIH: No, the government has no business nosing into any of our business. I am adamantly opposed to the National Security State, and all of its attendant functions.

The various legislative components, including the Patriot Acts, AUMF, NDAA, continue to erode our rights and liberties and we need to roll them back and reclaim our rights.[/quote]

Amen.

Now, how do we go about getting this done? Is it even possible?[/quote]

CAR: I believe it’s actually quite simple. People take back their role as active, involved citizens and start asking questions, demanding answers and accountability.

Watching the media wake up (finally) was tremendously heartening. Seeing polls wherein people overwhelmingly responded that their own government was a threat to their rights and liberties was also uplifting.

Whether you agree with the Tea Party or Occupy, it’s especially gratifying to see the average American rouse their fat ass off the couch and get involved. With the rise of social media, the tools are in place to effect significant change and do so non-violently.

I’m no cock-eyed optimist, but I also have great faith in the enduring strength of the American “experiment”.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

FIH: No, the government has no business nosing into any of our business. I am adamantly opposed to the National Security State, and all of its attendant functions.

The various legislative components, including the Patriot Acts, AUMF, NDAA, continue to erode our rights and liberties and we need to roll them back and reclaim our rights.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Anyone gonna bring up the $9.4 billion in unfunded pension liability?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Anyone following the rioting in Stockholm? Going into a fifth straight day now.

Integration is cited as a key issue, as are the economic circumstances of those rioting.

To me, it’s simple: The world is broken down into “haves” and “have-nots”, and when things get this out-of-whack, this is what happens.

You have youth unemployment rates in Europe topping 50% (or more) in some countries. And, it’s protracted and not showing signs of changing any time soon. How do you think this will play out?

Things are gonna get real ugly.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

CE: I’m sure that nonchalance was driven by the fact that nobody in that benighted country, save the police and military, have weapons.

We’ve been turned into politically correct, easily cowed pussies and this is what you get.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=KIBU]An eye for an eye?[/quote]

KIBU: Yeah, that was it. Two NATIVE BORN BRITS, who were never subjected to any depredations or privations decide to hack an unarmed soldier to death.

Here is an excellent example of why I’m all for an armed citizenry. Armed with my trusty Glock 21, I would have center punched both of these slum-dwelling Jihadists and then finished with one in the melon. These nihilistic death-lovers are in such a hurry to meet Allah, it would be my pleasure to speed them on their journey.

.45ACP beats cutlery every time.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Do Won Chang? Is that the dude that wrote the “Do Won Won”?

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