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If your credit is good enough you should be able to get a lower rate with no out of pocket expense. The lender will give you higher rate and give you a credit that will cancel the closing cost.

I refinanced twice in less than a year after purchasing the house and lowered the rate from 5.25% to 4.75% to 4.25%. The second time I worked with Sheldon and he got me a better deal than what aimloan.com had at the moment.

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If your credit is good enough you should be able to get a lower rate with no out of pocket expense. The lender will give you higher rate and give you a credit that will cancel the closing cost.

I refinanced twice in less than a year after purchasing the house and lowered the rate from 5.25% to 4.75% to 4.25%. The second time I worked with Sheldon and he got me a better deal than what aimloan.com had at the moment.

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If your credit is good enough you should be able to get a lower rate with no out of pocket expense. The lender will give you higher rate and give you a credit that will cancel the closing cost.

I refinanced twice in less than a year after purchasing the house and lowered the rate from 5.25% to 4.75% to 4.25%. The second time I worked with Sheldon and he got me a better deal than what aimloan.com had at the moment.

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If your credit is good enough you should be able to get a lower rate with no out of pocket expense. The lender will give you higher rate and give you a credit that will cancel the closing cost.

I refinanced twice in less than a year after purchasing the house and lowered the rate from 5.25% to 4.75% to 4.25%. The second time I worked with Sheldon and he got me a better deal than what aimloan.com had at the moment.

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If your credit is good enough you should be able to get a lower rate with no out of pocket expense. The lender will give you higher rate and give you a credit that will cancel the closing cost.

I refinanced twice in less than a year after purchasing the house and lowered the rate from 5.25% to 4.75% to 4.25%. The second time I worked with Sheldon and he got me a better deal than what aimloan.com had at the moment.

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[quote=svelte]Hate to break it to you all, but there aren’t that many people who really need math skills above oh say geometry to get by in life. There really aren’t.
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I enjoy math almost as much as you guys, but I certainly don’t use trig, calculus, linear algebra or statistics a great deal and have, in fact, forgotten alot of it.[/quote]

Math is not taught for its utilitarian value alone. It is supposed to develop and enhance skills like analytical and critical thinking. There are books that try to illustrate the point (A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper or Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences), but it’s really that simple – math is supposed to teach you how to think. Similar to how sports are promoted in schools not as a path to becoming a pro athlete, but a way to develop team spirit, endurance, coordination, cooperation and world peace…

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[quote=svelte]Hate to break it to you all, but there aren’t that many people who really need math skills above oh say geometry to get by in life. There really aren’t.
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I enjoy math almost as much as you guys, but I certainly don’t use trig, calculus, linear algebra or statistics a great deal and have, in fact, forgotten alot of it.[/quote]

Math is not taught for its utilitarian value alone. It is supposed to develop and enhance skills like analytical and critical thinking. There are books that try to illustrate the point (A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper or Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences), but it’s really that simple – math is supposed to teach you how to think. Similar to how sports are promoted in schools not as a path to becoming a pro athlete, but a way to develop team spirit, endurance, coordination, cooperation and world peace…

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[quote=svelte]Hate to break it to you all, but there aren’t that many people who really need math skills above oh say geometry to get by in life. There really aren’t.
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I enjoy math almost as much as you guys, but I certainly don’t use trig, calculus, linear algebra or statistics a great deal and have, in fact, forgotten alot of it.[/quote]

Math is not taught for its utilitarian value alone. It is supposed to develop and enhance skills like analytical and critical thinking. There are books that try to illustrate the point (A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper or Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences), but it’s really that simple – math is supposed to teach you how to think. Similar to how sports are promoted in schools not as a path to becoming a pro athlete, but a way to develop team spirit, endurance, coordination, cooperation and world peace…

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[quote=svelte]Hate to break it to you all, but there aren’t that many people who really need math skills above oh say geometry to get by in life. There really aren’t.
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I enjoy math almost as much as you guys, but I certainly don’t use trig, calculus, linear algebra or statistics a great deal and have, in fact, forgotten alot of it.[/quote]

Math is not taught for its utilitarian value alone. It is supposed to develop and enhance skills like analytical and critical thinking. There are books that try to illustrate the point (A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper or Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences), but it’s really that simple – math is supposed to teach you how to think. Similar to how sports are promoted in schools not as a path to becoming a pro athlete, but a way to develop team spirit, endurance, coordination, cooperation and world peace…

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[quote=svelte]Hate to break it to you all, but there aren’t that many people who really need math skills above oh say geometry to get by in life. There really aren’t.
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I enjoy math almost as much as you guys, but I certainly don’t use trig, calculus, linear algebra or statistics a great deal and have, in fact, forgotten alot of it.[/quote]

Math is not taught for its utilitarian value alone. It is supposed to develop and enhance skills like analytical and critical thinking. There are books that try to illustrate the point (A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper or Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences), but it’s really that simple – math is supposed to teach you how to think. Similar to how sports are promoted in schools not as a path to becoming a pro athlete, but a way to develop team spirit, endurance, coordination, cooperation and world peace…

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Eavesdropper, it seems to me like you are having issue with the style, not the substance of my comment. My poor choice of words is caused by a reflex reaction to the tone of the article which I perceived as a lament to the loss of an awesome teacher. If the article was about inability to keep mediocre at best teachers as the one described in the article I would not respond.

My second paragraph assumes that the person described in the article could not have achieved the level required to teach math at a level that exceeds the generally atrocious level of public education in the U.S.

I grew up in a family of pedagogists and andragogists (my dad’s side, including my dad. My mom’s side are mostly cops, including my mom :)) and I married to one, I am six-time national champion in mathematics (some another nation, obviously) and I taught highschool and college-level math for several years. I often have no idea what I am talking about, but this time I have a leg to stand on.

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Eavesdropper, it seems to me like you are having issue with the style, not the substance of my comment. My poor choice of words is caused by a reflex reaction to the tone of the article which I perceived as a lament to the loss of an awesome teacher. If the article was about inability to keep mediocre at best teachers as the one described in the article I would not respond.

My second paragraph assumes that the person described in the article could not have achieved the level required to teach math at a level that exceeds the generally atrocious level of public education in the U.S.

I grew up in a family of pedagogists and andragogists (my dad’s side, including my dad. My mom’s side are mostly cops, including my mom :)) and I married to one, I am six-time national champion in mathematics (some another nation, obviously) and I taught highschool and college-level math for several years. I often have no idea what I am talking about, but this time I have a leg to stand on.

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Eavesdropper, it seems to me like you are having issue with the style, not the substance of my comment. My poor choice of words is caused by a reflex reaction to the tone of the article which I perceived as a lament to the loss of an awesome teacher. If the article was about inability to keep mediocre at best teachers as the one described in the article I would not respond.

My second paragraph assumes that the person described in the article could not have achieved the level required to teach math at a level that exceeds the generally atrocious level of public education in the U.S.

I grew up in a family of pedagogists and andragogists (my dad’s side, including my dad. My mom’s side are mostly cops, including my mom :)) and I married to one, I am six-time national champion in mathematics (some another nation, obviously) and I taught highschool and college-level math for several years. I often have no idea what I am talking about, but this time I have a leg to stand on.

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Eavesdropper, it seems to me like you are having issue with the style, not the substance of my comment. My poor choice of words is caused by a reflex reaction to the tone of the article which I perceived as a lament to the loss of an awesome teacher. If the article was about inability to keep mediocre at best teachers as the one described in the article I would not respond.

My second paragraph assumes that the person described in the article could not have achieved the level required to teach math at a level that exceeds the generally atrocious level of public education in the U.S.

I grew up in a family of pedagogists and andragogists (my dad’s side, including my dad. My mom’s side are mostly cops, including my mom :)) and I married to one, I am six-time national champion in mathematics (some another nation, obviously) and I taught highschool and college-level math for several years. I often have no idea what I am talking about, but this time I have a leg to stand on.

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Eavesdropper, it seems to me like you are having issue with the style, not the substance of my comment. My poor choice of words is caused by a reflex reaction to the tone of the article which I perceived as a lament to the loss of an awesome teacher. If the article was about inability to keep mediocre at best teachers as the one described in the article I would not respond.

My second paragraph assumes that the person described in the article could not have achieved the level required to teach math at a level that exceeds the generally atrocious level of public education in the U.S.

I grew up in a family of pedagogists and andragogists (my dad’s side, including my dad. My mom’s side are mostly cops, including my mom :)) and I married to one, I am six-time national champion in mathematics (some another nation, obviously) and I taught highschool and college-level math for several years. I often have no idea what I am talking about, but this time I have a leg to stand on.

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