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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.[/quote]

I agree with you here. But I also think we shouldn’t give them too much shit for going through exactly what other cultures/religions went through so long ago.

It’s kinda like making fun of a teenager for having acne and a crackling voice, when you know full well that you had the same 5 years earlier.

Maybe instead of pointing and laughing and beating them up behind the handball courts, we should offer them some Stridex.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.[/quote]

I agree with you here. But I also think we shouldn’t give them too much shit for going through exactly what other cultures/religions went through so long ago.

It’s kinda like making fun of a teenager for having acne and a crackling voice, when you know full well that you had the same 5 years earlier.

Maybe instead of pointing and laughing and beating them up behind the handball courts, we should offer them some Stridex.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.[/quote]

I agree with you here. But I also think we shouldn’t give them too much shit for going through exactly what other cultures/religions went through so long ago.

It’s kinda like making fun of a teenager for having acne and a crackling voice, when you know full well that you had the same 5 years earlier.

Maybe instead of pointing and laughing and beating them up behind the handball courts, we should offer them some Stridex.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.[/quote]

I agree with you here. But I also think we shouldn’t give them too much shit for going through exactly what other cultures/religions went through so long ago.

It’s kinda like making fun of a teenager for having acne and a crackling voice, when you know full well that you had the same 5 years earlier.

Maybe instead of pointing and laughing and beating them up behind the handball courts, we should offer them some Stridex.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Islam, by and large, has not. I think you would have to agree that there is a basic resistance to modernity, openness and free thinking in Muslim lands and one only need look at their societies to see this.[/quote]

I agree with you here. But I also think we shouldn’t give them too much shit for going through exactly what other cultures/religions went through so long ago.

It’s kinda like making fun of a teenager for having acne and a crackling voice, when you know full well that you had the same 5 years earlier.

Maybe instead of pointing and laughing and beating them up behind the handball courts, we should offer them some Stridex.

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But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?

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But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?

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But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?

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But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?

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But you didn’t answer my question: anyone want a beer?

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]

My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.

And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in. They might not fly planes into buildings, but they’d sure as hell bring on nuclear annihilation so that the prophecy of end days passes and they witness the coming of their lord and savior. And please explain to me how that is any less crazy than the Muslim version.

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[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Afx: Okay. And your response above doesn’t do anything in terms of addressing my points on the dangers of fundamentalist Islam in any of its guises.[/quote]

My point is that fundamentalism of any kind is dangerous. The idea that Muslims have a monopoly on violence and oppression is unfounded. And I’m sure you’d agree with that.

And, yeah, we’d see the second coming if the Christian Coalition got their way. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they’d love to be in the drivers seat of the train that ushers it in. They might not fly planes into buildings, but they’d sure as hell bring on nuclear annihilation so that the prophecy of end days passes and they witness the coming of their lord and savior. And please explain to me how that is any less crazy than the Muslim version.

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